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To: Jack Hydrazine
"Assumed what?"

You say a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama with no facts in evidence.

You base your opposition on the single issue of health care, assuming that were Romney to win he would create a National Plan on his own.
1. He has stated he opposes a national single payer plan and that he believes any effort at widespread coverage should be done at the state level.
2. A republican Congress would never allow a mandatory health care plan, especially if the Supreme Court rejects any or all of the current model. If the Supreme Court accepts the Obama plan as constitutional, we may be stuck with it and the potential Presidency of Romney becomes irrelevant respective of that issue. Even Obama was not the driving force behind the plan he wants to take credit for. It was created and pushed through congress by Pelosi and Reid.
3. When Scott Brown ran for the Senate seat vacated by Ted Kennedy he stated that the plan has been altered for the worst by democrats in the legislature after adoption and that process was part of his opposition to a national plan because he saw what a slippery slope it could be.

You assert that I am drinking Romney kool-aid. Although I have said he is not my favored candidate, I am trying to look at things objectively. If he is the nominee, I believe he is our only hope at ending Obama's career and we must work together to influence his style of governance. When you asked I offered what I thought were distinct differences between him and the community organizer. Beyond health care which he can't control alone, you aren't giving me the reasons you say he and Obama are the same. Again, looking at the Middle-East, International Foreign Policy, our borders, our domestic economy, treatment of our military, budget, taxation and education, I think they have very different views and opinions. For those reasons and contrasts, I would be much happier to cast my vote for Romney than I was for John McCain.

274 posted on 04/28/2012 6:47:18 AM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: Baynative
Denial (also called abnegation) is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may use:

The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction. The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud. She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature mind, because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. Where denial occurs in mature minds, it is most often associated with death, dying and rape.

Denial of fact

In this form of denial, someone avoids a fact by lying. This lying can take the form of an outright falsehood (commission), leaving out certain details to tailor a story (omission), or by falsely agreeing to something (assent, also referred to as "yessing" behavior). Someone who is in denial of fact is typically using lies to avoid facts they think may be painful to themselves or others.

Denial of responsibility

This form of denial involves avoiding personal responsibility by:

Someone using denial of responsibility is usually attempting to avoid potential harm or pain by shifting attention away from themselves.

For example: Troy breaks up with his girlfriend because he is unable to control his anger, and then blames her for everything that ever happened.

Denial of impact

Denial of impact involves a person's avoiding thinking about or understanding the harms of his or her behavior has caused to self or others, i.e. denial of the consequences. Doing this enables that person to avoid feeling a sense of guilt and it can prevent him or her from developing remorse or empathy for others. Denial of impact reduces or eliminates a sense of pain or harm from poor decisions.

Denial of awareness

This type of denial is best discussed by looking at the concept of state dependent learning. People using this type of denial will avoid pain and harm by stating they were in a different state of awareness (such as alcohol or drug intoxication or on occasion mental health related). This type of denial often overlaps with denial of responsibility.

Denial of cycle

Many who use this type of denial will say things such as, "it just happened". Denial of cycle is where a person avoids looking at their decisions leading up to an event or does not consider their pattern of decision making and how harmful behavior is repeated. The pain and harm being avoided by this type of denial is more of the effort needed to change the focus from a singular event to looking at preceding events. It can also serve as a way to blame or justify behavior (see above).

Denial of denial

This can be a difficult concept for many people to identify with in themselves, but is a major barrier to changing hurtful behaviors. Denial of denial involves thoughts, actions and behaviors which bolster confidence that nothing needs to be changed in one's personal behavior. This form of denial typically overlaps with all of the other forms of denial, but involves more self-delusion. Denial at this level can have significant consequences both personally and at a societal level.

275 posted on 04/28/2012 7:08:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's only role is to make the socialist poison more palatable to the American people.)
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To: Baynative

“I think the old standby definitions of who votes for which party have been blown away in this campaign. I think people recognize that I’m not a partisan Republican—that I’m someone who is moderate, and that my views are progressive.”
-Mitt Romney (2002)

Video of the quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMcjJEXt9To

Obama continued: “I am somebody who is no doubt progressive. I believe in a tax code that we need to make more fair. I believe in universal health care. I believe in making college affordable. I believe in paying our teachers more money. I believe in early childhood education. I believe in a whole lot of things that make me progressive.”
-Barack Obama
http://www.progressive.org/mag/nichols0109.html


286 posted on 04/28/2012 10:32:46 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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