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To: Swordmaker

DesqView still worked better than Mac (and Windows). And we ALL know about PARC, so regardless of which came before Mac we all know there was GUI before Mac.

And if you think a multitouch screen is that massive a difference you need to think again. It’s still a touch screen interface. And no they didn’t all need stylus, most of them what the stylus did was add precision, just like the styluses you get on the POS card machines in stores today, you don’t need it, it’s just there.

You really make it dang obvious you just thrash around desperate to find one little thing that’s beside the main point so you can claim Apple invented stuff everybody knows they didn’t. Which is why you need to constantly lie, throw insults, then whine that everybody else is a troll. I know your MO, I’ve seen it before, from you, abandon a section you’ve clearly lost, scramble about, find one little thing, usually by twisting what was said, and pretend that means you were right about everything. Meanwhile you’re actually wrong about everything because you’re pretending Apple did it first and they didn’t, not anything that actually matters. Ooh they added multitouch over the touch screens everybody else had on there, big effen deal, still a freaking touchscreen on a freaking cellphone with others did first. Get over yourself, get over Apple.


89 posted on 05/01/2012 3:39:39 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: discostu
And if you think a multitouch screen is that massive a difference you need to think again. It’s still a touch screen interface.

If you're not going to accept that there's a difference between a multi-touch capacitive screen and a resistive screen, if you dismiss the difference between smart phones and feature phones, if you make no distinction between a windows-icons-menus modern GUI and a multi-tasking environment with boxes of ASCII text, then you're trying to win an argument no one else is having by defining Apple's innovations out of existence.

I mean, a rotary dial was a touch interface when you get right down to it, the Motorola StarTac did more than just make calls and was therefore a "smartphone", and when you get right down to it there was nothing innovative about the Model T. It was basically just a faster, wheeled horse.

90 posted on 05/01/2012 7:47:15 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: discostu
And we ALL know about PARC, so regardless of which came before Mac we all know there was GUI before Mac.

PARC did NOTING with their GUI. They were a research organization. Apple did... and Apple did indeed invent a lot of the GUI that PARC had nothing to do with. You really don't know. I bet you believe Apple "stole" what they learned at PARC. Apple did not. They paid for the rights to what they learned from merely OBSERVING. . . they paid over $1 million in pre-IPO common stock which was later sold by Xerox for over $7 million dollars, and had it been kept till today, would be worth BILLIONS!

And if you think a multitouch screen is that massive a difference you need to think again. It’s still a touch screen interface. And no they didn’t all need stylus, most of them what the stylus did was add precision, just like the styluses you get on the POS card machines in stores today, you don’t need it, it’s just there.

And AGAIN you demonstrate your ignorance. Multitouch IS a massive difference over a mere single touch screen. . . and Apple has the patents on multitouch. Even today the cheapie touch screen phones are suggesting using styli to interface. The key that Apple added was ACCURACY... with multitouch.

When somebody like you says "everybody knows" it means that it likely IS NOT TRUE!

Ooh they added multitouch over the touch screens everybody else had on there, big effen deal, still a freaking touchscreen on a freaking cellphone with others did first. Get over yourself, get over Apple.

Do you realize how HARD it is to detect MULTIPLE contacts on a screen and to accurately locate those touches? And then to be able to handle the directionality and vector of the multiple movements of those touches? Microsoft used CAMERAS on their BIG TABLE to try to accomplish the same thing! Until Apple's engineers did it, no one else was successful in doing it. That is why APPLE has the patents. Lots of them. . . and deserves them.

You pick out a minor thing and claim that the minor thing is the same as the complex whole... when it is not even accomplished anywhere nearly the same... and then claim you have won... when you have only demonstrated your complete lack of understanding of the subject. A good example being the Limited features of the Psion's 4K, single line display, hand held electronic address book and calculator and YOUR claiming it is the same thing as the far more sophisticated Newton Personal Digital Assistant of years later when it lacked even basic time keeping functions like a calendar or a clock! YOU claim that because it had one or two minor features of a much more complex device, and is handheld, it must be counted as being identical. IT IS NOT... nothing could be further from the truth.

YOU do not understand at all what an invention is... not at all.

91 posted on 05/01/2012 9:21:28 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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