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Mitt Romney, evangelicals seek marriage of convenience
The State ^ | Apr. 30, 2012 | David Lightman

Posted on 04/29/2012 9:56:21 PM PDT by Innovative

Mitt Romney and the Republican Party's sizable bloc of evangelical voters are about to engage in a marriage of political convenience.

The presumptive GOP presidential nominee's march to the nomination proceeded largely without strong backing from the conservative Christian community.

But with Romney now the only hope that conservatives have to beat President Barack Obama in November, a partnership has begun to jell.

Gary Rose, the chairman of the politics and government department at Sacred Heart University in Fairfield, Conn., agreed. "Santorum was their guy, but more important is their agenda of dislodging Obama," he said. "I don't believe they'll stay home."

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To: who knows what evil?

Holding their nose for Romney —

Agreed.

It’s worse than ever, though. At least McCain had a pro-life record to make holding the nose a little reasonable.

In Romney’s case, though, they’re going to have to don a gas mask and a full protection suit. Then they’ll have to burn their personal statements of principles. There’s is not spit’s worth of difference between Romney and Obama.

But we have all these folks fearful of Obama. They’re afraid of a man who thinks there are 57 states, who requires a teleprompter, and who bows to the king of Mecca. Absolutely amazing.

Fear God and serve Him.

One leg at a time, Sweet Jesus.
That’s all Obama can do.
He hasn’t the strength
to do everything they fear he can do.

He’s just a man, sweet Jesus
And power may never be mine
But remind me today, he puts on his pants
One leg at a time


101 posted on 04/30/2012 4:50:30 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode Not Evil! (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Psalm 144

ping to 101


102 posted on 04/30/2012 4:51:25 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode Not Evil! (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins
Fear God and serve Him.

Amen.

103 posted on 04/30/2012 4:54:50 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: INVAR
you accuse those of us who stand on principle by voting for a Conservative in November, with handing Obama the election...We do not accept the charge, or the premise of the charge.

Well, when it happens, wear it with pride. Maybe mathematics isn't your strong point Obot.

104 posted on 04/30/2012 4:55:05 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; INVAR

I find it interesting that all the Romnoids have to sell is fear, sophistry, and insults to promote your leftwing candidate. Just like the Obmachine in ‘08, as against the PUMAs. But then, anyone who could support Romney’s record could support Obama’s if they closed their eyes.


105 posted on 04/30/2012 5:01:27 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: Psalm 144

Me a “Romnoid”...HA HA HA HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE!!! (by the way, the term is “Romulan”)

All seriousness aside, if you plan to help Obama, you deserve insults. Apparently fear doesn’t work.


106 posted on 04/30/2012 5:12:38 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Innovative
Mitt Romney and the Republican Party's sizable bloc of evangelical voters are about to engage in a marriage of political convenience.

This evangelical will never vote for Romney.

107 posted on 04/30/2012 5:20:31 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (There will be no vote for Myth Romney in my house. Period.)
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To: INVAR

JESUS will find faith in me when HE returns... if I live to see it. I pray that HE takes me and my sword.

LLS


108 posted on 04/30/2012 5:24:14 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“All seriousness aside, if you plan to help Obama, you deserve insults.”

If you plan to help any leftwing activist, you deserve either pity is you are deceived, or contempt if you are not.


109 posted on 04/30/2012 5:28:19 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“All seriousness aside, if you plan to help Obama, you deserve insults.”

If you plan to help any leftwing activist, you deserve either pity if you are deceived, or contempt if you are not.


110 posted on 04/30/2012 5:29:06 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: Innovative

Wrong: “We, the GOP-e, are so determined to hang on to control of our power in the party that we will support a tool like Mitt Romney and guarantee a second term for Obama.”

I will not soil my responsibilities as a Christian and a conservative by voting for someone who has demonstrated he will do ANYTHING to be liked by the center. No.


111 posted on 04/30/2012 5:29:44 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The republican elite and mitt romney took down the better candidates... the leftists want mitt... either way the election turns out... they are good to go. carter even said mitt would be a fine president.

LLS


112 posted on 04/30/2012 5:30:51 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
When the gop/e and the party hack promoters on FR embraced him as a savior against obama. mitt is evil... vote for him if you must but please do not sell fertilizer as if it were soap.

That is what I meant.

LLS

113 posted on 04/30/2012 5:36:07 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: jagusafr

“I will not soil my responsibilities as a Christian and a conservative by voting for someone who has demonstrated he will do ANYTHING to be liked by the center. No.”

In the end, that is all it comes down to. Those who understand, do so. Those who can’t, can’t. Those who won’t pretend that they can’t.


114 posted on 04/30/2012 5:38:02 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Well, when it happens, wear it with pride. Maybe mathematics isn't your strong point Obot.

You're projecting, considering there's not a Zimbabwean dollar's difference between Romney or Obama, Mittwitt.

115 posted on 04/30/2012 5:59:07 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Innovative; All

““I, svcw, want to give Obama a second term, rather than elect Romney”. Simple”

That’s the bottom line everyone. A second term of Obama and we’re done for. There may not be that much difference between the two but I believe Romney doesn’t HATE this country like Obama does and will surround himself with subversives.

And just for the record, our last election was a bust and we’ve had 4 years and still didn’t have a stellar field (IMO) to choose from.


116 posted on 04/30/2012 6:01:49 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: jimmyo57
““I, svcw, want to give Obama a second term, rather than elect Romney”. Simple” That’s the bottom line everyone.

We don't accept responsibility for what the Ruling Class with the Media and Obama's help selected as our nominee to lose against Obama in November. We are not motivated by such fearmongering. We're Conservatives, not drones of the GOP.

117 posted on 04/30/2012 6:07:20 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: svcw
So let’s see SCP we who oppose the liberal called Romney are now called: crybabies, sore losers, insane, stupid, ignorant, agents of BHO, democrat shills, members of the enemy, Soros shills, part of the democrat underground, trolls.......did I forget anything?

I'm sure the paid RomneyBots who infest FreeRepublic will come up with lots of other invectives against us.

Romney: "Damn those Freepers! How much do I have to pay to get them to support me!!!"


118 posted on 04/30/2012 6:11:48 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: jimmyo57
That’s the bottom line everyone. A second term of Obama and we’re done for.

Uh oh! The RomneyBots are getting desperate! They're pulling out the tired old, "Ooooga Boooga" line!

VOTE FOR ROMNEY OR OBAMA WILL WIN AND THE COUNTRY WILL DIE!


119 posted on 04/30/2012 6:16:03 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Psalm 144; INVAR

Amen and amen!

LLS


120 posted on 04/30/2012 6:26:35 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: jimmyo57

““I, svcw, want to give Obama a second term, rather than elect Romney”. Simple”

That’s the bottom line everyone. A second term of Obama and we’re done for.

***************************

That is not the bottom line. Fearmongering is merely the best you’ve got, and it is not enough.

Obama is not as powerful as the fearmongers portray, and if Obama that powerful was a vapid shell of a man like Romney would simply ask permission to be his secretary.

America is not as weak as fearmongers present either, although the present United States might be. As to that, America was prosperous and vigorous before the Washington government existed, and will emerge strong and vigorous when it passes, as all internally corrupted and bankrupt entities do.

You say Romney loves the United States. Perhaps he does, in the same way that many love cows. Steaks are delicious. I see no record of patriotic service in his life, or in his lineage. I see a hollow man and a brazen opportunist. No hollow man is a patriot.


121 posted on 04/30/2012 6:54:47 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: Innovative

The good news for the evangelicals who are soul-searching to make this decision that next time they are asked to sell out it won’t be nearly as hard. If Mitt Romney doesn’t constitute someone “too far” then the idea of “too far” has no meaning, whatsoever. If you really, really try, you might find 3-4 Republicans less conservative than Romney but I doubt it.


122 posted on 04/30/2012 7:46:29 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: Psalm 144

I didn’t say Romney loves the United States. I said I don’t believe he HATES it like Obama! Big difference!


123 posted on 04/30/2012 7:51:40 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: COBOL2Java

I’m no Romneybot but I’ll vote for him before Obama. Btw,
isn’t Ooooga Boooga negrospeak? So that explains it, you must be an Obama supporter. I bet you’re you’re half white too!


124 posted on 04/30/2012 7:58:18 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: jimmyo57

Clever. How are things in High School? You taking driver’s ed yet?


125 posted on 04/30/2012 8:24:52 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: COBOL2Java

Should not be a surprise that MittWitt supporters and Obama drones sound alike.

After all, so do their candidates.


126 posted on 04/30/2012 8:43:57 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Innovative

I’ll acknowledge the re-election of Obama. I still will not vote for Mitt Romney. I’d rather a democrat screw things up than a Republican.

Once upon a time we could use our VOTE to take back our party. Now it seems the only way is to WITHOLD IT until they put up a serious conservative candidate.

I won’t tolerate this slide to the left; not from my party.

The GOP is welcome to try again with my vote in 2016.


127 posted on 04/30/2012 8:50:50 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: INVAR
Should not be a surprise that MittWitt supporters and Obama drones sound alike.

If you made a ven diagram of MittWitts and ObammieCommies, the fudgepacking intersection could be represented by one perfectly overlapping circle.

128 posted on 04/30/2012 8:56:12 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: xzins


JOIN THE ESTABLISHMENT COLLECTIVE! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
129 posted on 04/30/2012 9:10:31 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: xzins


JOIN THE ESTABLISHMENT COLLECTIVE! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
130 posted on 04/30/2012 9:10:35 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: xzins


JOIN THE ESTABLISHMENT COLLECTIVE! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
131 posted on 04/30/2012 9:10:40 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: xzins


JOIN THE ESTABLISHMENT COLLECTIVE! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
132 posted on 04/30/2012 9:10:59 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: libdestroyer

Sorry everybody, didn’t mean to spam that post...

but seriously... don’t vote for Romney.


133 posted on 04/30/2012 9:12:39 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: libdestroyer
You need to fix your sear ...

...your weapon is firing uncontrolled bursts ...

134 posted on 04/30/2012 9:13:30 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full" (Sulla))
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To: samtheman

Yep, that is my point, and if he wins with Social Conservatives publicly sitting it out, it will marginalize Socons for a generation. All of the work that Reagan put in will be washed away. I not old enough to remember the 1968 primaries, but Reagan won the pop vote and got stabbed in the back by the Gop at the convention. He didn’t take his ball and go home, instead he continued to fight within the party to take it where he wanted it. That is our only option now, we should learn my history, not ignore it.


135 posted on 04/30/2012 10:09:41 AM PDT by Oregon Coast Conservative
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To: Oregon Coast Conservative

Well, if some staunch Conservative ala Reagan slugs it out with the Ruling Class and can get the nomination in 2016 despite the backstabbing, I will vote for the Conservative.

Romney doesn’t get my vote, or anyone else I can convince to vote Conservative this year.

I won’t buy into the lame attempt at riddling us with guilt. You can stop trying, it won’t work. As Reagan famously said, “I didn’t leave the party, the party left me”. And such is true with the GOP as it was with the Dems for Ronnie.

I’m done with the party. I vote Conservative, PERIOD and I promote Conservatives, PERIOD.


136 posted on 04/30/2012 10:23:08 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

I am not trying to “riddle you with guilt”, how you vote is your business, I am still not sure how I am going to vote, that is why it is called a campaign, someone has to convince someone else that they are the better choice, and so far, noone in this campaign has done that for me. I live in Oregon, and Romney is the type of Republican that could actually compete here, so for the first time in a long time my vote might actually matter. But I don’t vote against someone, I’m not a democrat. Romney has to give me and others a reason to vote for him, and he has 6 months to do it. But I will never do anything to help the American hating turd in the White House to win reelection either.


137 posted on 04/30/2012 10:43:26 AM PDT by Oregon Coast Conservative
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To: Varsity Flight

Right. I recall that he was knocked for his divorce too.


138 posted on 04/30/2012 11:01:41 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: libdestroyer

Looks like the Borg really has taken over. :>)


139 posted on 04/30/2012 12:06:23 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode Not Evil! (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: don-o
If I withhold my vote from an opportunity to mitigate an evil that I am aware of, I have then cooperated knowingly with known evil.

Apparently, you're unaware of how evil Romney. Pretending you're doing what God wants by voting for the father of gay marriage and a man that did everything he could to promote abortion in Massachusetts is truly delusional.

If Hugo Chavez was eligible to run and he was the Republican nominee and making the same promises Romney is, would you vote for him, too? Or is there every a line you're draw and not support the lesser of two evils?

140 posted on 04/30/2012 12:21:14 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Why not just confess that you’re thinking that if America is going to have evil, why not get the most evil and get it done as soon as possible.

Some of us realize Romney will do more harm than Obama:

1)He'll move the Republican party significantly to the left. Why would Romney be inclined to govern conservatively if he know conservatives like you are going to vote Republican no matter what? Why would the establishment pay any attention the Tea Party or grassroots when they know they can get away with putting up the most liberal nominee they can find and conservatives will still vote for him or her?

2) The party in the White House almost always loses seats in Congress and at the state level. That will be even more true with Romney in the White House when he signs off on liberal legislation that fails. The choice is growing Republican majority in Congress with Obama in the White House or a shrinking Republican minority with Romney in it. I'll take the former. Romney endangers all the gains made by conservatives in 2010. After he was done as governor, Republicans held less seats in the Massachusetts legislation than at any time since the civil war.

3) RINOs are far more likely to get their arms twisted and agree to tax increases, "climate change" legislation and other liberal legislation with Romney in the White House than with Obama in it.

4) There is even a scenario where Romney could move SCOTUS to the left. Anthony Kennedy and Antonin Scalia likely won't retire with Obama in the White House. They might if Romney is elected. No one that knows Romney's record on judges would be surprised if he put another David Souter or Sandra Day O'Connor on SCOTUS. I'd bet whoever he chooses will support gay marriage as a right.

141 posted on 04/30/2012 12:33:54 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Oregon Coast Conservative
Romney has to give me and others a reason to vote for him

Why would you trust anything he says or any promise that he makes?

142 posted on 04/30/2012 12:38:07 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Kazan

The first premise accepted by all is that neither man is ideal and both have flaws.

Will Mitt tug the GOP to the left? It’s up to boots on the ground to keep the loyal in-party opposition going so that Mitt’s more liberal ideas will be DOA in Congress. In the meantime, either the czars will be gone or will be replaced by far saner souls.

I’d think that it’s up to the conservative side of the USSC whether they want to stick it out, or whether they want to retire and Mitt to name replacements. If smart they will be sniffing out potential successors and have them ready to suggest through friendly senators (the advice and consent people).

Nothing in life is a guarantee. Well almost nothing. Mitt could go badly wrong. Obama WILL go badly wrong.


143 posted on 04/30/2012 12:59:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (To the devil with them and the high horses they rode in on.)
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To: Kazan

We can certainly trust anything that sounds good from Obama to be a lie. And for him to keep his promises to do evil things.

A second Obama term would be not just a second helping of the first term Obama. It would be Obama on lame duck steroids.


144 posted on 04/30/2012 1:03:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (To the devil with them and the high horses they rode in on.)
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To: Kazan

I don’t believe what ANY politician says, however, what I and you can do is remind them of their promises, and try to hold their feet to the fire. With Romney, we have a chance to do that. How much of a voice do we have with Obama? None. Do you think Romney would make dog eating jokes about Palin? Do you think Palin would sit back an let Romney go left without speaking up? I don’t. Like I said, I don’t trust any politician, but they do like to get reelected, and pissing of your base in your first term doesn’t get you there.


145 posted on 04/30/2012 1:12:55 PM PDT by Oregon Coast Conservative
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To: Kazan
So you are the glass half empty guy? Get allied with the moonbat left and you probably have a chance of defeating the evil Romney. They will have a different list of his evils, but together that list should be pretty exhaustive.

Fortunately, it's only a few hundred - a couple thousand at most gonna buy into such nit wittery.,

146 posted on 04/30/2012 1:21:04 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I have nothing good to say about Mitt except that he is the only contender left who can stop the ultimate individual evil in America.

Mitt is Mubarak Obama is the Muslim Brotherhood—I will take a dirty rotten sonofabitch over a dirty rotten sonofabitch with a cocked gun to my head everytime.

147 posted on 04/30/2012 1:37:13 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("So the RINOs won with Romney--u gonna root for the Commies now!?!?")
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