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Legalized Drugs: Dumber Than You May Think
The Weekly Standard ^ | May 7, 2012 | JOHN P. WALTERS

Posted on 05/01/2012 1:09:31 PM PDT by DannyTN

May 7, 2012, Vol. 17, No. 32 • By JOHN P. WALTERS Single Page Print Larger Text Smaller Text Alerts

Even smart people make mistakes;sometimes surprisingly large ones. A current example is drug legalization, which way too many smart people consider a good idea.

They offer three bad arguments.

First, they contend, “the drug war has failed” despite years of effort we have been unable to reduce the drug problem. Actually, as imperfect as surveys may be, they present overwhelming evidence that the drug problem is growing smaller and has fallen in response to known, effective measures.

Americans use illegal drugs at substantially lower rates than

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: drugs; warondrugs
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To: DannyTN
Fine. Let's ban alcohol, and tobacco. Might as well ban vitamins, and supplements too.

Did God almighty not give you the right and responsibility to take care of your own body?

Who are YOU? Your brothers keeper? Jailer? Slaver?

Freedumb isn't free.

21 posted on 05/01/2012 1:54:18 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: JimRed

You want Gov’t to kill more people? Seriously?


22 posted on 05/01/2012 1:57:14 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: JimRed
BTW, they did that back in the day.
23 posted on 05/01/2012 1:59:00 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: DannyTN
The decades of decline coincide with tougher laws, popular disapproval of drug use, and powerful demand reduction measures such as drug treatment in the criminal justice system and drug testing.

Hopefully noone is dumb enough to believe this. But it is typical Beltway self-congratulatory thinking. I think it would just crush their little pinheads if they knew what the real world effect of their policies were.
24 posted on 05/01/2012 2:07:01 PM PDT by microgood
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To: DannyTN

There are good reasons to keep some drugs illegal. This article misses most of them. It angers me when it says “pretending smoked marijuana is medicine”
Yet if a pharm company takes out the THC and places it in a pill -Marinol- suddenly it is medicine. As long as some company can make a lot of money off of something it is medicine. I have no problem with expanding the drug war though education. I do have a problem with putting your neighbor in a cage for something that causes no harm to you or society.


25 posted on 05/01/2012 2:09:18 PM PDT by HenryArmitage (it was not meant that we should voyage far.)
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To: nickcarraway

Rehab is a hell of a lot cheaper than prison and has better outcomes. -as far as limit gov or expand it.. take a look at tobacco and alcohol. It deffinatly increased the paperwork, regulating and certifying producers, but would it be worth it to eliminate large sections of the DEA? I guess I have to choose gov oppression with suitcases or gov oppression with guns, I’m choosing the suitcases.


26 posted on 05/01/2012 2:20:18 PM PDT by HenryArmitage (it was not meant that we should voyage far.)
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To: JimRed

“Put undercovers into the supply chain to poison the crap. End of problem.”

Or put users and dealers to death. The problem with the “drug war” is half-assed doesn’t work — you need to be “in” or “out” for it to work.

I don’t see the radical steps being taken, so we need to “get out.”

It cost a lot of money and has created a really scary police state that can be abused by the likes of Obama and his thugs.


27 posted on 05/01/2012 2:21:42 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: DannyTN

The drug war is working so well, think what another 100 bill or so a year can accomplish.

This is the classic example of government control over our behavior and how the answer to any problem is more of the same.


28 posted on 05/01/2012 2:24:47 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Gigantor

I saw the LA street gangs and Mexican Mafia flourish over the last 35 years from drug dealing and controlling territory. This is one of the “accomplishments” of the WOD.


29 posted on 05/01/2012 2:26:39 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Theoria
You want Gov’t to kill more people?

No. They'd be killing themselves. Non-users of illegal drugs will not be at risk. Oh, and I forgot to mention the warning, and offer of rehab (one time only).

30 posted on 05/01/2012 2:41:10 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: DannyTN

What’s even dumber is trashing the 4th, 5th and 10th Amendments as well as the clearly stated limits on Federal power laid down in the US Constitution.

That’s not just dumber, it’s incredibly dangerous to our Liberties.

L


31 posted on 05/01/2012 2:44:48 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: DannyTN
What John Walters (career beltway bureaucrat) conveniently omits is that ENDING THE FEDERAL DRUG WAR WILL NOT LEGALIZE DRUGS. Every state has their own drug laws already on the books, and getting rid of the federal drug war will not remove them.

They're counting on "good conservatives" to infer from all the hype that without the federal drug war there would be anarchy, and be willing to let them keep right on eating away at your constitutional rights, believing that it's the only way to save you from the drugs.

THINK, people!

32 posted on 05/01/2012 2:57:20 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: JimRed
Put undercovers into the supply chain to poison the crap. End of problem.
First father of two small business owner with no criminal record that bites it because of it and you can a law to end the prohibition of most substances will get pushed through with his name on it.
33 posted on 05/01/2012 2:57:44 PM PDT by HenryArmitage (it was not meant that we should voyage far.)
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To: rarestia
I wish you all the best in staying clean and sober.

Thanks for the insight.

I was once for the legalization of at least pot, but after watching what it did to my nephew, I realized that the pot that is on the street today is not the same drug we had back in the 70’s or that we read about from the early 17th and 18th centuries.

The pot of the 21st century is an whole new animal and genetically altered to the point of being worse then cocaine.

I no longer favor the legalization of any drug!

Hell, just look at the lives that have been destroyed by Oxycontin, which is basically legalized heroin.

34 posted on 05/01/2012 3:50:36 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: dsrtsage
Drugs will be legalized because no amount of commerce is allowed without giving a cut to Uncle Sam. The money involved makes government types salivate.

Not only that, but it's a tenet of Communism and our Government is going full bore on all the others.

35 posted on 05/01/2012 3:53:50 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: Carbonsteel

So are you willing to respect the Tenth Amendment and let each state decide that issue? Or do support fedgov using the Commerce Clause to impose national prohibition?


36 posted on 05/01/2012 4:06:56 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: DannyTN
In before the libertarians bash this...

Well, according to the article date, you posted it six days before it was published.

37 posted on 05/01/2012 4:12:07 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: DannyTN

Right now, the game has changed significantly, so that the most dangerous drugs out there are, of course, #1 and still going strong, alcohol. But #2 is rapidly becoming legal, prescription opiates and synthetic opiates.

In fact, there is a profusion of drugs like the Vicodin class (Hydrocodone/paracetamol)(semi-synthetic opioid), as well as the Hydromorphone class, and the Hydromorphinol class, and the Oxymorphone class. Dozens of brand names and generics.

In short, these are effectively “middle class heroin”, at about 20% of the strength of heroin, the balance made up with OTC NSAID pain reliever drugs such as acetaminophen.

But now there is an intent to market 100% purity of these drugs not in combination with other drugs. But as addictive as heroin.

The skyrocketing rate of abuse of these dangerous narcotics has long been so great as to give the federal government an excuse to obtain all prescription records from all citizens, a massive loss of privacy that has yet to show any lessening of the levels of addiction.

It has been pointed out as well that for those addicted to these drugs that they are both so expensive and so relatively controlled that heroin is a reasonable alternative, both cheaper and more widely available.

This is a huge, national problem.


38 posted on 05/01/2012 4:12:59 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Jewbacca
Or put users and dealers to death. The problem with the “drug war” is half-assed doesn’t work — you need to be “in” or “out” for it to work.

Good point. There is no drug problem in North Korea. Police states work!

39 posted on 05/01/2012 4:29:50 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

http://freekorea.us/2008/03/02/north-korea-has-a-meth-problem/


40 posted on 05/01/2012 4:33:55 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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