Dear sister in Christ, if you are truly concerned about a conversion of hearts to save these people or any other people from HERESY (i.e., by means of evangelization), then I think that stridency, shrillness, and name-calling is a really bad strategy. It's totally off-putting and counterproductive, IMHO.
Why are you and seemingly many others on this thread so abusive of folks who are outside your sect? (Seemingly including myself.) It simply makes me cringe. At the very least, it's bad advertising of the Christian message.
If this sort of behavior is seen as the model of what a Christian is, who would want to be one?
Just my two-cents' worth. FWIW
Why are you and seemingly many others on this thread so abusive of folks who are outside your sect?
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Mormons are not a sect of Christianity, they are an anti-Christian cult.
And confrontation and ‘shrillness’ is what got me and many other Mormons to see the light and leave Mormonism for Jesus.
I agree it doesn’t often work for other groups, but it is the most effective at getting Mormons to see the lies of Mormonism.
Once again: Produce your EVIDENCE of such.
The jury wants to inspect what the Judge claims to have seen.
They actually teach that Jesus is the half-brother of Lucifer, that Jesus was conceived by Mary when God had sex with her. Lucifer is another one of God's spirit children by another of his spirit wives.
They call who they believe in *Jesus* but it is not the Jesus of Scripture, God Incarnate - "I and my Father are one" (John 10:30), but rather another Jesus, that we are warned about in Galatians.
Not any old Jesus can save.
If the Mormons are putting their faith in a made up Jesus, all they get is a made up religion and a made up destiny. They will not be saved by a made up Jesus.
I for one do not belong to a sect, I belong to the Body of Christ. I am Saved by Grace and Grace alone. I am undeserving of this Grace from an Almighty God, yet mormonism which you defend with vigor denies Grace. mormonism is not now or will it every be Christianity. It is however now and in the past anti-Christian to its very core.
You said:
Why are you and seemingly many others on this thread so ABUSIVE of folks who are outside your sect? (Seemingly including myself.) It simply makes me cringe. At the very least, it's bad advertising of the Christian message.
Now why do I find this comment problematic?
#1 When it's to your advantage to be "one" with Christians of other denominations, you highlight that...like when you did with Tennessee Nana:
How can I be bigoted against Christians, since I am one? And try to live as one? [Post #308 to Tennessee Nana]
When it's to another poster's seeming disadvantage -- for example your attempt above to marginalize Elsie to some dark "corner" of Christendom -- it's almost like you're playing a game of chess where you place the piece that represents Elsie as being "anti" ALL other sects...I mean how can you possibly know which "sects" (besides Mormonism) that Elz opposes?
You said:
Why are you and seemingly many others on this thread so ABUSIVE of folks who are outside your sect? (Seemingly including myself.) It simply makes me cringe. At the very least, it's bad advertising of the Christian message.
Now why do I find this comment problematic?
#2 This aspect bothered me big time. I at times get a little tired of posters who accuse and slander and judge others as being "abusive" -- which is what you did in post #512 vs. not only Elsie -- but "many" unnamed others.
So that prompted me to review...
...not only the specific post of Elsie's you were responding to,
...but EVERYTHING Elz has said on this thread going back to post #107.
There was absolutely NOTHING in that post of Elz you were responding to (#492) that was remotely "abusive."
I check Elz' 400 series of posts...Elz cites Scripture in posts #471 & #466 & Elz' comments are minor there.
Elz labels Mormons "lame" in post #135...but given the context of that statement 'tis not unfitting. And Elz labels Mormons "traditional heretics" in post #114, also not unfitting.
So. Clue us in. HOW is Elz -- and "many" others on this thread -- being abusive of others? (Please be specific)
The "many others" accusation is tantamount to some teacher -- speaking negatively of an entire classroom -- when the teacher may be upset over one or two students...
...Now what if that teacher refused to say what the students did, leaving a pall of negativity upon ALL in the classroom?
...I don't think that would be fair...
...If teachers or parents need to hold accountable specific kids over specific acts, please do that as well in the context of this thread...
...Please don't just engage in generic slander as a tactic vs. general people you disagree with re: political strategy & re: witnessing tactics]
Is that too much to ask?
You said:
Why are you and seemingly many others on this thread so ABUSIVE of folks who are outside your sect? (Seemingly including myself.) It simply makes me cringe. At the very least, it's bad advertising of the Christian message.
Now why do I find this comment problematic?
#3 In post #447, Reaganaut asked you a simple Q -- if you believed Mormons are Christians.
You responded as if classifying a group of religionists as "non-Christian" somehow equates to "commit[ing] him to eternal perdition." [In context you said: "My job is to love my neighbor as myself. It is not to judge him, and therefore to commit him to eternal perdition — for doctrinal failures that perhaps exist only in my own mind."]
Your response here proves problematic on a couple of angles:
(a) Do you REALLY think that ANY given missionary to a given people goes there, thinking ALL of them are "committed to eternal perdition?" Really? Aren't they there for the exact opposite reason? (To ensure that doesn't happen with as many of that group as possible?)
I find it incredibly strange that Christians like you are "A-OK" with Lds' 55,000 missionaries out and about (+ over 20,000 mostly retired "service missionaries") treating Christians as "apostates" to proselytize into Mormon conversion; but if any of us dare does the same thing with Mormons -- treat them as lost heretics to be won or at least treat them as any other non-Christian sect, new religion, or even like a world religion, you suddenly assign us to the Hell Consignment Industry...tho probably --to a poster -- ALL of us would admit we don't know the future of any person's life...even if we can say, "If this person continues down the road," hell is a likely place that will snatch more of them than heaven does.
Romney may be saved in the future. I & others here don't place him in the lineup of hell. Who does here? Jesus died for him, too, showing Mitt Romney's great worth.
IOW, your argument in post #449 (that people here are committing others to perdition) -- is an outright strawman.
(b) Your basis of making some distinction of why YOU carry the open authority to morally judge others on this thread -- and other posters apparently have some restriction you've assigned to them -- becomes then a strawman & disparate comparison.
Now in post #458, you added a similar dimension -- "judging another man's soul." If you meant that like the above, that, too is a straw man. Of course, in some way, every missionary calculates the "condition" of men's souls in the group they are trying to reach...If you meant it the same way that these missionaries do this, then by all means, don't stop at condemning thread-posters here, start lambasting most of the present & past missionaries of the world!
These missionaries -- like the Flying Inmans -- have discerned (a VERY good BIBLICAL word, mind you) that indeed Mormons are spiritually needy of the TRUE Gospel of Jesus Christ. There's nothing wrong with that conclusion.
Are you embarrassed by that realization?
So...if there's nothing wrong there...and if your #449 comment was a strawman, then what REALLY are you accusing posters on this thread of "judging"??? Are they not Biblically discerning some key realities here?
And finally -- if you say -- in post #458 that you judge "facts" -- how have you proved that Elsie's posts on this thread are 'abusive'-as-'fact' ... vs. your apparent subjective judgmentalism here?