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To: Mozilla

Phobias like this only serve the left. I have seen nothing to indicate that Romney has ever acted to establish Mormonism as the State Religion. I fear evangelists and their cults just as much, but as long as they don’t take the Muslim stance of establishing their state religion as the current cabal in Washington then it’s time to leave this kind of cheap trash out of the debate.


7 posted on 05/01/2012 8:05:46 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Steamburg

agree, bigotry is most unattractive.


8 posted on 05/01/2012 8:11:06 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Steamburg; greyfoxx39; Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; T Minus Four; sickoflibs; All

I have seen nothing to indicate that Romney has ever acted to establish Mormonism as the State Religion.

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Oh he WILL further Mormonism. The LDS prophet had 14 US congressmen and senators sent as representation of the US GOVERNMENT to the Netherlands specifically to get an exemption to a law for the LDS church at OUR TAX DOLLAR EXPENSE. This will be common place. And, yes, I can source this.

The goal of Mormonism is to dominate US politics. Been there, done that. Mormons are the same as Muslims.


10 posted on 05/01/2012 8:15:44 PM PDT by reaganaut (There is no such thing as the 'lesser of two evils'. Both are still evil. Romney = Obama)
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To: Steamburg

Just courteous why are you afraid of Christians?


13 posted on 05/01/2012 8:22:21 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Steamburg

It is not a phobia, it is reality. I don’t fear Mormons, I weep for them. I used to be one and I know how spiritually lost and blind they are.

People NEED to know the truth about Mormonism and Romney’s worldview, that isn’t bigotry, that is information.

You need to know what Mormons really believe, not just accept their propaganda.


15 posted on 05/01/2012 8:24:44 PM PDT by reaganaut (There is no such thing as the 'lesser of two evils'. Both are still evil. Romney = Obama)
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To: Steamburg
Phobias like this only serve the left.

Have you ever heard of a good cult?

38 posted on 05/01/2012 9:48:21 PM PDT by dragonblustar (PETA. President Eating Tasty Animals)
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To: Steamburg; reaganaut
I have seen nothing to indicate that Romney has ever acted to establish Mormonism as the State Religion.

Why would the Mormon "prophet" care to interject edicts to be imposed upon Massachusetts...for _______ sake???

C'mon think...How much power does a guv of an Eastern state about as far as you can get from Utah have...vs. how much power THE leader of the free world has in the White House...???

No temptations to exercise puppet power there, you claim?

Besides, who cares if Romney himself EVER would initiate anything from the White House on his own?

If you read the chart below, it shows that Romney really can't say "no" to his "prophet" in the Salt Lake City real "Western White House." The threat would not necessarily be Romney -- in and of himself -- but whatever radical Lds "prophet" is dictating something to him to enact!

And note: except for the first three statements, ALL of them were made by Lds leaders between the 1960s and 1980s...

Lds Leader Chronological 'Prophet' or Fundamental # (or Other Title) Overlap Areas: Could the President of the U.S. become a 'puppet' to an Lds 'Prophet?' (The Lds Prophets -- in their own words)
John Taylor Lds 'Prophet' #3 “The Almighty has established this kingdom with order and laws and every thing pertaining thereto…[so] that when the nations shall be convulsed, we may stand forth as saviours…and finally redeem a ruined world, not only in a religious but in a political point of view.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 9, p. 342, April 13, 1862)
Orson Hyde President of the Lds Quorum of the 12 Apostles for 28 years (1847-1875) “What the world calls ‘Mormonism’ will rule every nation...God has decreed it, and his own right arm will accomplish it. This will make the heathen rage.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 53)
Heber J. Grant Lds 'Prophet' #7 "Elder Marion G. Romney recalled the counsel of President Heber J. Grant: 'My boy, you always keep your eye on the President of the Church, and if he ever tells you to do anything, and it is wrong, and you do it, the Lord will bless you for it.' Then with a twinkle in his eye, he said, 'But you don't need to worry. The Lord will never let his mouthpiece lead the people astray'" (in Conference Report, Oct. 1960, p. 78)." Cited in Official Lds publication Search the Commandments: Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide, p. 209 (1984)
Harold B. Lee Lds 'Prophet' #11 ...President Harold B. Lee said: 'We must learn to give heed to the words and commandments that the Lord shall give through his prophet, '...as if from mine own mouth...(D&C 21:4-5)...You may not like what comes from the authority of the Church. It may contradict your political views. It may contradict your social views. It may interfere with some of your social life. But if you listen to these things, as if from the mouth of the Lord himself..." Cited in official Lds publication Remember Me: Relief Society Personal Study Guide I, p. 27 (1989)
Spencer Kimball Lds 'Prophet' #12 "President Spencer W. Kimball said: '...We deal with many things which are thought to be not so spiritual; but all things are spiritual with the Lord, and he expects us to listen, and to obey..." (In Conference Report, Apr. 1977, p. 8; or Ensign, May 1977, p. 7) Cited in official Lds publication Come, Follow Me: Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide 1983, p.12 (1983)
What about Marion G. Romney, cousin to Mitt's father? Who was he in Lds hierarchy? (Title: 'President' - Top 3 of church as 2nd counselor to both #11 & #12 Lds 'prophets') "Elder Neal A. Maxwell has said: 'Following the living prophets is something that must be done in all seasons and circumstances. We must be like President Marion G. Romney, who humbly said, '..I have never hesitated to follow the counsel of the Authorities of the Church even though it crossed my social, professional, and political life' (Conference Report, April 1941, p. 123). There are, or will be moments when prophetic declarations collide with our pride or our seeming personal interests...Do I believe in the living prophet even when he speaks on matters affecting me and my specialty directly? Or do I stop sustaining the prophet when his words fall in my territory? if the latter, the prophet is without honor in our country! (Things As They Really Are, p. 73). Cited in official Lds publication, Search the Commandments: Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide, pp. 275-276 (1984)
Ezra Taft Benson Lds 'Prophet' #13 Benson speech given 2/26/80 @BYU. Summary: “…remember, if there is ever a conflict between earthly knowledge and the words of the prophet, you stand with the prophet…” (See excerpts re: 3 of 14 'fundamentals' below) Source: Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet
Benson (cont'd) Fundamental #5 5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time. (My Q: Ya hear that Mitt Romney?)
Benson (cont'd) Fundamental #9 9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual. (My Q: Still listening, Mitt?)
Benson (cont'd) Fundamental #10 10. The prophet may advise on civic matters. (My Q: What say ye Mitt?)
B.H. Roberts LDS Historian and Seventy. Note: Roberts was an elected Democratic Congressman from Utah in 1898 -- but was NEVER seated by Congress because of grass roots uproar vs. Roberts, who took a THIRD simultaneous wife in the early 1890s. Grass roots America collected 7 MILLION signatures on 28 banners and presented them to Congress...in pre-mass media 1800s! “[T]he kingdom of God... is to be a POLITICAL INSTITUTION THAT SHALL HOLD SWAY OVER ALL THE EARTH; TO WHICH ALL OTHER GOVERNMENTS WILL BE SUBORDINATE AND BY WHICH THEY WILL BE DOMINATED.” The Rise and Fall of Nauvoo, 1900, p. 180
Mitt Romney as POTUS??? Aside from above prophetic impositions, why would Mitt not only honor what these 'prophets' have spoken, but what a future Lds 'prophet' may tell him to do? The Law of Consecration Oath Mitt Romney has sworn in the Mormon temple (done before marriage/sealing in temple): "You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you do accept the law of consecration as contained in this, the book of Doctrine and Covenants [he displays the book], in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and EVERYTHING with which the Lord has blessed you, or WITH which he MAY bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion." Source: What is an LDS Church/Mormon temple marriage/sealing? [Q: Please define 'Zion': The LDS PR Web site (lds.org) defines its primary meaning: "membership in the [LDS] church."]

56 posted on 05/01/2012 10:09:00 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Steamburg
I have seen nothing to indicate that Romney has ever acted to establish Mormonism as the State Religion.

Indeed you haven't!

But you CAN not disagree that Mitt is a DEDICATED mormon; can you?

And you WOULD not disagree that MORMONism has quite extensive expansionist plans; will you?

And you probably would not boldly make the claim, that the things that MORMONism teachs, prints and believes, would NEVER influence the way the Mr. Romney would make decisions - right??

108 posted on 05/02/2012 4:46:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Steamburg

2nd


168 posted on 05/02/2012 7:01:36 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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