I am resigned to Romney. I would not call it consent, but I do adamantly believe that he is not Barack Obama. With a GOP Congress, we can hope for a much better result if Obama is not in office. Obama does not care about the constitution or congress and he has demonstrated it over and over.
I completely understand your feelings and I am not asking for an endorsement. However, I fervently believe that I know what I am going to get with a 2nd Obama administration. Most importantly, that will be 1-3 SCOTUS nominations that the GOP will roll over for like another Kagan or Sotomayor. I don’t believe Romney would pick a extremely radical Justice and even another Kennedy would be preferable to another Harvard radical.
That was the thrust of my question. Every time one of us points out this extremely important fact, we are told what Romney did in Massachusetts. I did the research and learned (like another poster from Massachusetts said earlier) that the state house controls the nomination process and there was no way he would ever get a conservative through. When we point that out, a fair and valid point, we are called out for it and threatened with being banned.
I am not asking for your endorsement of him. I can’t endorse him either and my vote probably won’t count in the People’s Republic of Washington (albeit the marginalized east side). My focus is forward and we absolutely will not be able to move our country to the right if Obama cements the 5th, 6th, or even the 7th vote on the court. That will be an unmitigated disaster for our nation and conservatism.
Everything is on the table for an Obama court - immigration, 2nd amendment, states rights, expanded abortion, the fairness doctrine, nationalized everything, civil liberties, seizure of private investments, motor (illegals) voting fraud, crushing free speech in the church, and the list of horrors goes on and on.
That court would the arch enemy of conservatism and the constitution far beyond an Obama or Romney administration. Unlike many on this forum, I firmly believe that the main impediment to the progressive agenda is SCOTUS. It’s definitely not Boehner and Co. in the house and it will never be the pitiful GOPe crew in the Senate.
I think many of us believe we are headed for even harder economic times in the near future. Law enforcement (going on 18 years) and military (many years both active/reserve) will listen to the court because they are sworn to the constitution. In a worst case scenario, martial law could be held in check by a moderate or conservative court. SCOTUS will continue to prevent the full implementation of the progressive agenda if we keep the 5th vote. Yes, the progressives (including the GOPe) have been chipping away very effectively for years, but an insurmountable obstacle for the progressive agenda is SCOTUS. If we keep the court it will give us the opportunity to regain control of the GOP moving forward. That opportunity is lost for a generation if Obama gets two votes. Ginsburg won’t count on his ledger but we are 4 heartbeats away from ironclad socialism. Replacing Ginsburg with even a moderate is an absolute win! I believe the next President will replace both Ginsburg and Kennedy. It’s always possible we lose another Justice too.
We can’t lose SCOTUS. If we do, Romney will be the least of our problems. Damn the GOP for putting us in this position, but that is how I feel. I know alot of other FReepers feel the same way. We kept the 2nd amendment by one vote!
Obama and his ilk are miles beyond the worst of the RINO’s. Removing him and this American hating administration has to be our #1 focus. We can pressure the GOP. We have no influence on the progressives. We definitely have no influence on SCOTUS beyond aiming for good nominations.
Case in point - Obamacare. Did you ever think we would be relying on SCOTUS to stop nationalized health care???? I think just a few years ago that all of us believed something like that would never make it past the GOP in Congress!
Obama is the wolf. Romney is a toy poodle that we will have a leash on. If we can’t make that distinction we won’t have free speech on this forum. That is not an endorsement of Romney. I don’t trust him either, but we can possibly push him to do the right thing. Obama does not care about us and it will be much much worse in a second administration when he has nothing to lose.
God help us if Obama gains control of the court. Our disgust with the GOPe will fade to a distant memory when this website is zotted after the fairness doctrine is passed. If anyone thinks I am being hysterical, they have not paid attention to the stated objectives of the power players in this administration.
Why am I called out for pointing this out? Why are FReepers who are reasonable and passionate about this country and conservatism called names for saying this? How can we be the forum for conservatives if we can’t oppose Obama?
Obama is the problem. We seem to have only one realistic option at this point to remove him. That is not a campaign ad for Romney. It’s reality!
I have had plenty of fights in my life. You win the fight with what you have at that moment. You worry about getting a better rifle, pistol, stick, or takedown move after you win the fight in front of you.
If we can’t say these things on this forum it will continue to decline in membership. That is my .02.
diplomacy is saying nice doggie while you look for a stick
If we can’t say these things on this forum it will continue to decline in membership.
Brilliant post. Too bad you are probably going to get banned for it. And me too for agreeing. But it needed to be said.
I cannot describe how sad it is to watch FR decline as it has in the past year or so, and especially in the last few months. And to see so many earnest freepers get booted for stating the obvious just makes me ill. It's like a ghost town around here now.
While the perfect conservatives have insisted on a Ronald Reagan, Chairman ObamMao is making himself comfortable for four more years.
Our country will be unrecognizable after that. And FR will be long gone, probably by Executive Order.
Because no matter how much he will disappoint me starting on January 20, 2013, I still get to taste (figuratively) the sweet tears of unfathomable sadness shed by Obama, Mooch, and all their idiot supporter for a two and a half glorious months.
I'll at least have that.
Speaking for myself, I haven’t called anyone names for saying they’re going to vote for Romney in order to oust Obama. I actually understand that, in view of how desperately I want Obama out.
But it goes both ways. Some of us just cannot vote for Romney because of religious objections. Yet some on this site respond to that like liberals would. “Is Jesus talking to you now?” “Is God running for office?” Or with accusations of being self-righteous, pure, etc.
If you want one to end, you have to be willing to stop the other.
Well said, and true. I love it! Sincerely. It's a sad smile, though: "Win the fight" -- by electing a politician with a documented record of advancing five major liberal positions that I've always voted Republican to oppose.
See, that doesn't look like a "win," especially when evidence is ample that the polished, slick individual in question has demonstrated pretty progressive tyrannical tendencies and has a camp that is ruthless, arrogant, devious, and holds conservatives in contempt.
That looks like losing, to me.
It looks like losing in order to avoid a confrontation with Obama, a guy most Americans either loath or have come to regret. The reason "rebellion is in the air" is because a tyrannical minority has illegitmately seized power of the majority -- the fracas over voter ID is a small but profound indicator of that. Most Americans loathe Obama; observation tells me that regardless of what image the MSM tries to project, the reality is that most Americans are sick of Obama. We already know that most Republicans reject Romney.
Just some observations.