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To: central_va

“Thanks to Lincoln the butcher and the statist Yankees who followed that goon, we are all slaves of the state and states rights is dead. “

I know this isn’t my argument, but I’d like to say I hold the South equally responsible for the loss of states’ rights (which I sorely wish we still had.) Their insistence on enslaving their fellow man lost all of us our freedoms.

Freedom is for a moral people. If it’s going to be abused like that, it gets lost.

Now maybe you never sold a child from his mama or beat a man until his flesh hung from his back. Perhaps you never hobbled an escapee or used a black teen girl as a brood mare.

But the South fought for its right to do these things and more, and it was evil, and if they had backed off, the Civil War, in my opinion, would not have happened.


1,109 posted on 05/04/2012 8:16:04 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

The slavery of the South wasn’t the slavery that was tolerated if not condoned by the New Testament, either (into which the slave entered voluntarily). It was chattel slavery, fed by internecine kidnapping in Africa, trafficked by Islamic Arabs, and enforced by a convenient but artificial distinction made towards Negro peoples. If you were a Negro in one of those states back then and didn’t have papers showing you were free, they assumed you were a slave. Absolutely despicable. Karma (figuratively speaking) was a St. Bernard sized bitch.


1,118 posted on 05/04/2012 8:27:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Persevero

A P.S. about the slaves — it’s impossible that the situation could not have brought about God’s frown, going beyond New Testament norms as it did. And if that resulted in a deterioration of the society to the point of war, it was a divine chastisement. I don’t think it’s as simple as saying Abraham Lincoln went on a jihad to stop slavery, though.


1,124 posted on 05/04/2012 8:36:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Persevero
But the South fought for its right to do these things and more, and it was evil, and if they had backed off, the Civil War, in my opinion, would not have happened.

If you believe that, then I can't help you. All I can pray is that CWII ends happily with part of the country, hopefully the South regaining their freedom. Ignorance is evil, look in the mirror.

1,222 posted on 05/05/2012 5:16:15 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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