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To: Mrs. Don-o

I hope you’re prepared for abuse.

Body armor etc.

I don’t know that any sexual proclivities are a sin. I think gay people are probably born that way. I’ve known quite a few. Why would anyone CHOOSE a lifestyle that, until very recently was not only hated but dangerous?

It’s what one does with his or her sexual attractions that matter. Longtime gay couples who are moral and faithful may be better in God’s eyes than heterosexual couples who are rampant adulterers.

Unlike a lot of people, I am pretty tolerant of God and don’t pretend to know what he thinks of things.


37 posted on 05/10/2012 8:44:04 AM PDT by altura (Looking for sanity in all the wrong places.)
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To: altura
Unlike a lot of people, I am pretty tolerant of God and don’t pretend to know what he thinks of things.

You don't have to "pretend" anything. He said exactly what He thinks of it several times in the Bible.

Unless you think He changed His mind at some point?

38 posted on 05/10/2012 8:46:54 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: altura
I don't agree with you about "longtime gay couples who are moral and faithful" unless by "moral" you mean "who do not engage in sexual relations."

If they are not engaging in sexual relations, I respect their purity.

If they are engaging in sexual relations, they are engaging in an objectively immoral act. Whether they know it or not. (A lot are confused about this.)

Very much like longtime straight fornicators who are "faithful". A lot of confusion here, too.

It's becoming common. In very many of our families, our daughters, nephews, sons, cousins, if the overall statistics can be believed.

Though common, it's still disordered, and those involved in it should be called to repentance. We hope and pray for that.

I have actusally met, though, a used-to-be-actively-gay couple who decided not to have sex. I think their choice is virtuous and honorable, because abstinence can be quite difficult and is certainly countercultural at this point, yet it is what God's law requires of everyone except lawfully wedded husbands and wives.

If I may ask, pray for all these sruggling people.

39 posted on 05/10/2012 9:03:03 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: altura
Why would anyone CHOOSE a lifestyle that, until very recently was not only hated but dangerous?

That was a very ignorant question IMO. People choose to do things all the time that are hated and dangerous. In fact many people chose activities PRECISELY BECAUSE they are hated and dangerous. It make it all the more exciting.

Sheesh!

50 posted on 05/10/2012 12:08:37 PM PDT by colorcountry (In order to practice tolerance, I must first disagree. But when I do, I'm accused of being intoleran)
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To: altura
Why would anyone CHOOSE a lifestyle that, until very recently was not only hated but dangerous?

Because people are wicked and perverse by nature.

Unlike a lot of people, I am pretty tolerant of God and don’t pretend to know what he thinks of things.

Funny. "A lot of people" are tolerant of those who pretend not to know what God thinks, even after He's made His divine opinion quite clear.

52 posted on 05/10/2012 12:26:43 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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