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How Horrific Will It Be For The Non-Prepper?
SHTF Plan ^ | 5-12-2012 | Be Informed

Posted on 05/12/2012 2:48:24 PM PDT by blam

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To: Fee

In my corner of the country there are little towns every 5 or 10 miles in every direction and they’re all interconnected through family and friendly ties. I grew up 30 miles from here and have ties in the 5 little towns in between plus other little towns spread across about 3 counties.


101 posted on 05/12/2012 4:28:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: stanne

Get yourself a 357 mag revolver (4 to 6 in barrel) instead. Can shoot 38 spec as well as 357 magnum bullets. You can also get a lever action rifle that can shoot the same ammo. Rifle and pistol with no logistics of mags. That would be my poor man’s rifle/pistol for SHTF scenario. Taurus sells low cost/reliable revolvers and Marlin sells reliable lever action rifles.


102 posted on 05/12/2012 4:28:56 PM PDT by Fee
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
I was looking to buy a small generator and when I did I noticed that it burned through 7 gallons of gas every 24 hours!.

Ration its' use, you don't run it 24/7, forget about air conditioning, use only when absolutely necessary.
Been there done that.
Can push my small one (6.5KW, 10HP)probably over a month with just 50 gallons of gasoline if I needed too.
See post #81 also.

103 posted on 05/12/2012 4:29:26 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: blam
...no-one is hoping for bad things to happen.

Are you kidding? There's a very noticable apocalyptic streak in the prepper movement. It's not all of you, but it's a lot of you.

104 posted on 05/12/2012 4:30:07 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
I have a gas generator that was purchased after Frederic in 1979...it still runs great. I just run it in spurts not all the time.
I'm going to buy a very small generator just to run a fan for sleeping at night. Harbor Freight has one on sale for $89.00 right now.
105 posted on 05/12/2012 4:30:07 PM PDT by blam
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To: reformedliberal
Dried beans only have a two year shelf life

I've eaten dried beans that were over 10 years old without any problem. And so did the hundreds of airmen that I fed them to.

If you don't have water and fuel, you are fundamentally screwed anyway. Man that can't make a fire, even in Arizona, isn't much of a man.

Cooked beans can be crushed, spread out, and sun dried to preserve them. To prepare them after drying, simply rehydrate them. I've done that, in the wilderness.

/johnny

106 posted on 05/12/2012 4:31:41 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: blam

“How Horrific Will It Be For The Non-Prepper?”
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I am still somewhat skeptical of the Prepper movements.
For one, the nature and magnitude of civil disruptions are so far ranging.
Living in a city like Chicago is one thing, living in the Smokey or Rocky Mountains is entirely different.

The area of coverage is another factor.
If their is a neighborhood riot, as in Watts, one can flee.
If it is an area-wide event, such as an ice storm, having a two week supply of food, water and heat would be most desirable.

As for guns and ammo, it is nice to have a gun and some ammo
in case of a single incident home invasion, but stocking up
for a long term siege seems somewhat pointless.
If one is living in an area of dense population, and high percentage of minorities, you should see enough signs to know when to get the hell out of Dodge.
If SHTF, you will be likely overwhelmed no matter how much ammo you have.
One Molotov or mob size group will finish you off anyway.

I had a friend that had an underground bunker built and stocked it with huge quantities of prepper food and supplies.
I guess within five to ten years, all of his stores expired, and his mental health failed to a point where he had to be put in a rest home.
Yes, I know that there are new prepper foods that have a
very long shelf life, but what if the situation warrants
that you flee at a moments notice?

While some do not have much choice but to live in a big city, it would be prudent to move to a low density area.
I left Memphis for the country, 50 miles away, in 1980.
I left the USA for good in 2005.

Since 2009, I have been living on a beach in a temperate climate.
Natural food is plentiful year round.
If conditions warrant a change of environment, I have mountains up to 3000 feet, with low density population that is less then a few miles inland.

Just remember, there is no “one size fits all” when it comes to doomsday preparations.


107 posted on 05/12/2012 4:32:28 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: reformedliberal

shelf life is a hoax in most instances.

Dry beans will last for years and years and years. Vaccuum sealed.


108 posted on 05/12/2012 4:32:43 PM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: Salgak
Books. Or a fully-stuffed E-reader, with several SD-Cards full of OTHER books. And at least 2 solar chargers for the Ebooks. . . .

I have that. Google Books has a bunch of old books available either in PDF or E-Pub format for free download. Lots of good info there.

/johnny

109 posted on 05/12/2012 4:34:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Yardstick; Admin Moderator
"Are you kidding? There's a very noticable apocalyptic streak in the prepper movement. It's not all of you, but it's a lot of you. "

I told you to go away.

No-one likes your accusations and name calling.

You people....

All of you...

Just who the hell do you think you are addressing fellow FReepers in this tone?

You've got problems yourself that you need to work on insted of 'fixing' all 'us people.'

Beat it.

110 posted on 05/12/2012 4:36:22 PM PDT by blam
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To: Freddd

I actually bought some sutures off of ebay and I managed to get some lidocaine, we deal with animals and I’m pretty sure we could take care of basic medical care.

Way before anyone in the medical community used super glue to suture wounds I was using it on my boys who have a skin condition where their hands crack and won’t heal, a little super glue to stick it back together and the pain is gone and the healing begins.


111 posted on 05/12/2012 4:36:49 PM PDT by tiki
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To: goodwithagun
Find a local mentor. I can write something, but it doesn't mean anything until you get some hands-on help. Go to your local artesianal baker, buy some of his bread, make friends with him, and get him to help you. Beer will help with that part, generally. Most cooks are natural teachers.

/johnny

112 posted on 05/12/2012 4:37:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: stanne

http://www.cheaperthandirt.net/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=brand&gclid=CKCJnMX1-68CFQcEnQodOX45TQ
I got spare mags from cheaper than dirt they have lots of other goodies too


113 posted on 05/12/2012 4:39:09 PM PDT by scottteng (Tax government employees til they quit and find something useful to do)
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To: Iron Munro

Your link goes to fish antibiotics. Are these safe for humans too?

I asked the question on another thread about the shelf life of insulin. Nobody seems to know. I know it has to be refrigerated and there are ways to keep it refrigerated but how does one stock up on it. This is a prescription drug and I doubt that you can get a 6 month supply from a doctor and would it even be good for that long even if it were refrigerated?


114 posted on 05/12/2012 4:39:19 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: KittenClaws
I’m expecting plenty of culinary disasters in a survival situation.

Everything tastes better with a can of tomatoes or pineapple mixed in. The sweetness and acid cut through fattiness, slight rancidity, utter blandness, toughness or bitterness.

115 posted on 05/12/2012 4:40:29 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: blam

Just who the hell do you think you are addressing fellow FReepers in this tone?

__________________________________

I agree blam. If you don’t like the show, turn off the channel.


116 posted on 05/12/2012 4:40:54 PM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

As storms were headed our way this week, I did what I usually do - do the laundry and the dishes, get dinner in the oven early and fill pitchers and buckets with water just in case the electricity goes off. Sad to say, most people won’t even prep for a few hours of no power. During one of our big floods, the neighborhood got together and even the old timers were clueless. They were shocked that I had the sense to figure out that we were going to flood and to do some common sense preps. Like, duh, they couldn’t put 2 + 2 together after the local news said the waters were coming??? One can only imagine if it were a prolonged major emergency.


117 posted on 05/12/2012 4:41:14 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Freddd; reformedliberal
It is true that most shelf life numbers are pure garbage. Most work out to be a 'best if used before' date.

That said, if beans get older than 2 years, it does take some extra time and effort to make a great meal out of them.

/johnny

118 posted on 05/12/2012 4:43:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: blam

I’ve never done any food prepping, so could someone tell me if this is a decent product at a decent price? Thanks.

4-person 9-month Emergency Food Storage with Goal Zero® 150 Escape Power Kit
36 - 1 Month Chef’s Banquet ARK Buckets 11,880 Total Servings

$3,199.99
After $400 OFF

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11760716


119 posted on 05/12/2012 4:43:25 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: blam

Learn to eat more simply and SHORTEN THE SHOPPING LIST. If you get in some cash, be sure to make it several SMALL bills that would more likely accommodate getting change back if the cash registers go down - ones, fives, tens, and some nickels, dimes, quarters, but don’t go overboard.

We live in the sticks and have a well; we’re used to the water, and it’s actually okay - it’s a bit sulfur, heavy iron content - am thankful for it. Husband fixed a manual well bucket of sorts. We stored some fairly simple stuff. You don’t have to have the gourmet things that we’ve been spoiled to.

When I was a kid, we had a well and an outdoor toilet. Used the Sears & Roebuck catalog for toilet paper. Ate white beans and potatoes and cornbread, and beans, potatoes and cornbread the next. The chickens produced eggs, but in an emergency situation, feeding chickens might be a hardship. Some powdered eggs would have to suffice. We had a bit of country sausage and bacon, also cornflakes with a bit of milk from grandmother’s cow.

Simplify, simplify, and then, simplify simplification!


120 posted on 05/12/2012 4:44:42 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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