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1 posted on 05/12/2012 6:25:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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" 'For God so love the world he gave his only begotten son, So that whomever believes in him would not perish but have everlasting life.' That moment, I felt God's love pour out from heaven," she said. "I started bawling, I knew Jesus was real. That he loved me."

Nice. I needed to hear that tonight.

2 posted on 05/12/2012 6:30:50 PM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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And the feds still haven’t learned a thing.


3 posted on 05/12/2012 6:30:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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I wonder how Lon Horiuchi’s soul is these days.


6 posted on 05/12/2012 6:39:12 PM PDT by skeeter
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No mention of the many atrocities committed by the federal agents or of the civil suit they lost.

Oh and the FBI sniper was the also at Waco. He was proclaimed a hero by Janet Reno.

Randy weaver isnt the best person but what the feds did to him and his family was murder.


8 posted on 05/12/2012 6:40:42 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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From a North Idaho resident that has read much about thsi incident, in addition to having read press accounts and TV news reports whilst this tragic incident was playing out, there was a heap of grossly misleading crammed into that article. Vicki Weaver, her son (abt 12) and her babe in arms were simply murdered, killed without cause.


14 posted on 05/12/2012 6:55:37 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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They left out a big part of the story:

A chopper laden with a huge underslung fuel bladder came to a hover directly above the shack, clearly with the intent to burn them out.

They established that there was a reporter in the area with a powerful lens, and that stopped them (they beat up the reporter and put him in jail for nothing).

Ruby was also to be ended by the flame, similar to Waco.

In view of the monstrous truth of F&F, who is to say McVeigh was not a gov’t agent who was burned when the sting went bad?

Because that is clearly what they intended to do to all the dealers who were recruited to help the BATF with F&F.

Would the gov’t itself set into motion a chain of events that would blow up their OWN building...? I’d never have thought that b4, but in view of F&F now I think YES.


20 posted on 05/12/2012 7:04:58 PM PDT by gaijin
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Federal agents believed Randy Weaver was dangerous, so when they showed up with arrest warrants, they came prepared for trouble.

It went bad from the start. As shots started flying, marshals shot 14-year-old Sam Weaver in the back, and a marshal was shot dead.

The writer is way off on the details.


22 posted on 05/12/2012 7:09:24 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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However I recall hearing the same words from the same retired military officer Lieutenant Colonel James "Bo" Gritz, one-time member of the Green Berets.

I heard Col. Gritz on KSFO San Francisco in the days when they were mostly local hosts, I would say that most likely the KSFO host was Geoff Metcalf in the late 1990s.

Here's what Col. Gritz reported about a man he knows as the man observed a helicopter near the Weaver "compound" from a place he stood overlooking the Weaver "compound".

"First of all on the fuel tank, this was most interesting--a man named Jack, owns a higher terrain uh, a mountain right beside Randy; you can look down on Randy's home. He had some media up there with him and they had a video camera. On second day of the seize uh, a helicopter came up, and it had a uh, a fuel bladder uh, that they--the helicopter came up and was hovering over the cabin. The concern was, that they [Government] were going to dump the fuel on the cabin, and then simply uh, incinerate it. Uh, Jack who owns the land up there, said he started jumping up and down, and waving arms. The pilot noticed them, they had a video camera, and so the pilot pointed that out to authorities, and the, the mission was aborted. Now, they might say they were delivering the fuel up to top of the hill to be used by generators or whatever by the Federal Forces. But if that was so, why did the aircraft abort and go on back and land down in the valley? Kind of interesting."

BTW during the real Congressional hearings on Ruby Ridge the federal agents were careful to refer to the Weaver home as a "compound;" even quickly correcting themselves if they slipped up and referred to it as what it was, a cabin.

30 posted on 05/12/2012 7:26:19 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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In August 1992, a white separatist family in northern Idaho

Just can't let it go, can they. Randy Weaver was not a white separatist. He knew some of them, but was never one of them.

Someone asked him to cut down a barrel that was 1/2" shorter than legal, and it just so happened that the requester was a federal agent.

35 posted on 05/12/2012 7:39:44 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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In August 1992

That would make it a Republican President George H. W. Bush operation? Hmmm...

46 posted on 05/12/2012 8:27:17 PM PDT by GBA (Read: The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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MRKR


55 posted on 05/12/2012 10:40:33 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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Love my country and it’s people
What happened at Ruby Ridge taught me to HATE the federal gub mint


66 posted on 05/13/2012 4:46:08 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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