Posted on 05/13/2012 12:10:24 PM PDT by Pinkbell
Then dealing with them is a separate problem, and pot is an unnecessary distraction to dealing with a larger problem.
There you go, making sense and all that.
All drugs were decriminalized in Mexico over a year ago.
The violence hasn’t subsided.
Decriminalization and legalization merely reduce the justification for law enforcement to intervene in criminal behavior.
You mean, the US government has neither the courage nor the resources to keep the cartels from attacking Americans on their own soil? Why not just surrender, then. TR would hide his head in shame.
Allow me to point out that it is still illegal here. Legalize it here and good old fashioned American competition takes care of things.
About 5 years ago the cartels already announced their intentions of taking over all pharmaceutical corporations.
They are similar to organized crime from the 30s in La Cosa Nostra. After they developed the cities, migrating to building Las Vegas, then into corporate Amercia Entertainment Industry, they simply corrupt other avenues.
Unlike the US flavor of mafia, the cartels have a more Latino impression of politics. They don’t believe so much in God given inalienable rights, as much as they believe in El Heffe and the subservience to his power. They remain obedient to their interpretation of power, then when they believe they are seated with such authority, demand allegiance to their whims, becoming very incensed when those less powerful happen to act in any fashion they had not anticipated others would respond to their whims.
If the cartels are so super-duper powerful, that their threat of attacking American farmers for daring to grow a legal crop is sufficient to deter you, then you are no longer a super power. If the cartels are such a threat, you should be aggressively going after them, not forbidding the cultivation of canabas for fear they might cross the border. If Mexico is so helpless before the cartels, it is no longer a law enforcement problem, but a military one. If it were up to me, I’d legalize pot and DARE the cartels to cross the border. Not in spite of the threat, but BECAUSE of it.
Wow. If it were to be a policy such as that established by you, and my family was killed in the resulting crossfire, I would come after you and not the cartels.
It’s reckless thinking like that which has thrown Mexico back to the Aztec times, except now they also have Islamic terrorism training to boot.
By the way we’re not an adequate world super power anymore. We haven’t been one since Clinton was president and the first WTC bombing. We’re a world super power in name only.
Well, then, I submit to you that your present security is illusory. Sooner or later, they’ll be moving up from Mexico, and your family will be killed in the crossfire anyway. This is what happens in medicine when a body doesn’t want to undertake chemo or surgery before a cancer metastacizes.
The American border is threatened to the South. The thing to do is send troops South, and stop expecting policemen to operate effectively outside of their jurisdiction, at the sufferance of a compromised foreign government that is their host. The Mexican government can either ally itself with the US, or with the cartels, but the US must invade their compounds and kill, not arrest them.
If the government of Mexico has a problem with that, then the US can make war on them as well. I don’t think they will have a problem. In fact, I’d expect them to be an ally, and say so as if it were a given. They would at least pretend it’s so, in order to save face. Then anyone who is caught collaborating with a cartel can be purged from the ranks of Mexican politics/military/law enforcement. If this be imperialism, then make the best of it.
Then move to Australia. That should be safe for a while.
People are being killed by the hundreds because of policies you support. Wouldn’t it be funny if some of their family members decided to come after you?
I think it would be.
Um it could be dealt with before it eventually moved up here. But progressives and libertarians don’t want to deal with it proactively, save for the failed “legalize drugs” solution.
The solution isn’t capitualtion, which is the ‘legalize drugs’ theory.
“Legalize drugs” can’t have failed, because it hasn’t been tried. But I’m not advocating legalizing drugs, only pot, and if you haven’t noticed, I’m not couching it in terms of capitulation. On the contrary, you are the one who seems to be advocating capitulation, or even worse, appeasement as defined by Churchill. There is your neighbor, Mexico, being eaten by crocodiles. Save your neighbor, so you won’t be eaten at all, let alone for dessert. The cartels are a military threat. Take them on. Super power is as super power does.
And while you’re at it, take away some income from the cartels by legalizing pot. I have a friend in America who has an entire room of his house set aside for hydroponic cultivation, as soon as it gets legalized. I don’t think the cartels have his address.
Holder’s fault.
“You’re saying these people will stop chopping others to pieces once they realize it’s bad for tourism?”
Oh no. I’m saying that once the Mexican government realizes it is killing the tourist trade they’ll stop it.
I could be wrong, of course. But I don’t see what else can be done.
I don’t see how legalizing drugs in the US would bring an end to the violence, unless we restricted legal drugs to those produced within the US. I wouldn’t want to reward these people with any kind of open market.
I’m not big on drug legalization, I’d support marijuana legalization, but that’s as far as I’d go.
While I may agree decriminalizing pot may weaken drug cartels somewhat. To claim it will stimulate the economy is just silly. The stuff can be grown just about anywhere and people will simply grow their own. It’s not like it requires much more effort than growing tomatoes.
If your explanation held any water, they should be a big fat target.
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