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Posted on 05/14/2012 6:15:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVetEdited on 05/14/2012 6:52:23 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
SANFORD, Fla. WFTV has learned charges against George Zimmerman could be getting more serious.
State prosecutors said Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman, profiled and stalked 17-year-old Trayvon Martin before killing him, so the FBI is now looking into charging him with a hate crime.
Zimmerman admitted to killing Martin in February during a confrontation. However, he claims the shooting was in self-defense. He's facing a second-degree murder charge, which carries a maximum possible sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole. But if Zimmerman is charged and found guilty of a federal hate crime involving murder, he could face the death penalty.
FBI investigators are actively questioning witnesses in the retreat at the Twin Lakes neighborhood, seeking evidence for a possible federal hate crime charge.
I'm not an attorney, but knowing Obama and Holder, are they somehow connecting this to Obamacare?
It may be time to start seriously tracking names here.
Wonder why that obvious thought doesn't occur to the persons who automatically assume racism. Actually it appears from the transcript of the call that Zimmerman wasn't even sure of Martin's race when he started following and observing him. He was doing so from a distance at night, and called the police because of what he considered suspicious behavior. "This guy looks like hes up to no good or hes on drugs or something. Its raining and hes just walking around looking about." (transcript) When asked by the dispatcher, "OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?", Zimmerman says, "He looks black." Just looks. He has already called the police, and he's not sure yet of the race.
Later, after answering some more questions, Zimmerman says that Martin is "coming towards me". Only then, after seeing him more clearly, does he add, "He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male." Now he's sure of the race. Before he didn't even know for sure.
Victim <---------- ----------> Hater
Maybe we ought to give them the civil war they so desire. When possibly innocent people get politically convicted of crimes, rather than the rule of law, it’s time.
I can't believe that the FBI has joined "Obama's people" en masse.
Today, three houses over, a neighbor was burglarized, and mail stolen midmorning.
As a neighborhood, we have a meeting in three days to organize a neighborhood watch; it's good to know that when we begin walking our streets and alleys, and following strangers to the neighborhood, we'll be committing a hate crime.
Incidentally, with this redefinition of "hate crime," at least a half dozen black on white violent crime must be prosecuted as hate crimes too.
Things will get interesting really fast.
He also has a Facebook page.
“Im sure this is going to be a new box to check on the census.”
It was actually two questions on the 2010 census. Question 8 asked are you Hispanic. Question 9 asked what is your race.
Not directly, but they are both part of a larger principle that has been at work over the last 80 years.
For many decades the Supreme Court pretended basically that the Commerce Clause did not limit the scope of what the federal government could do, at least in any meaningful way.
For those powerful interests who wish to convert the federal government into a central government with complete authority over the American people, the Commerce Clause became a handy catch-all with which to legally justify the power grab.
Want the power to order every American to buy health insurance? Use the Commerce Clause. Want the power to get involved in local crimes, where it might be politically useful in order to conduct federal show trials or to persecute politically-unfavored classes of persons? Use the Commerce Clause.
In recent years the Supreme Court has started to read meaningful limitations into the Commerce Clause, and it’s hard to see how the new version of the federal hate crimes law can be sustained as an exercise of the Commerce Clause.
The FBI isn’t charging anybody with anything. Barry’s racist goon, Eric the Holder, is running this show. Eric don’t like Mexicans. Especially the “white” ones.
This is good news for Zimmerman because it shows the DA has sh!t against Zimmerman and Holder’s race boys are shopping for different “civil rights” charges for when this case fails.
Problem for the Federal racist boys is that Zimmerman is not white and he is not a racist by evidence of his volunteer work. Holder’s “people” are left holding their
diversity racist d!cks. Ha ha. Racism, in all it’s colors crashes again.
“They are making up evidence to fit the outcome they want, a political lynching.”
I predict the Bamster’s Boyz will make such complete fools of themselves that the counter suits will result in judgements sufficient to make Mr. Zimmerman a wealthy man.
who to be maddest at....the fbi, holder, bamey, or the dolts that vote such filth into power...
Very important point!
He deserves impeachment no matter what.
The House impeaches; the Senate convicts. I expect a GOP senator to introduce the articles of impeachment any day now.
That explains exactly why I have no intention of voting for Romney no matter what. We don't need more RINO eunuchs anywhere near government.
Where are the house Tea Party Republicans?
“They are making up evidence to fit the outcome they want, a political lynching.”
It’s the FBI, the fibbing bullsh$t Institution. They make the Secret Service look good.
What do you expect. With Holder running it the FBI is just another Obama tool.
Didn't Raich pretty much reverse those limitations?
...the authority to enact laws necessary and proper for the regulation of interstate commerce is not limited to laws governing intrastate activities that substantially affect interstate commerce. Where necessary to make a regulation of interstate commerce effective, Congress may regulate even those intrastate activities that do not themselves substantially affect interstate commerce.
Scalia concurring in Raich
The media profiled George Zimmerman by calling him a white hispanic.
The Florida law enforcement officers ran George through a kangaroo court when they did not point out that NBC had libelously edited the 911 tape to make it appear that George was the one who freely charactered Treyvon as “he looks black” following the “looks like he’s up to no good” comment.
The Eric Holder Injustice Department allowed a lynch mob to put a bounty on George Zimmerman “dead or alive”.
The same Eric Holder Injustice Department dropped all charges against the same New Black Panther Party when they threatened voters outside of a polling center in 2008 (and they had failed to mount a defense and thus had accepted their crime).
This is an Orwellian nightmare.
All animals are equal, some are more equal than others.
When 2 hispanic yutes pulled a gun on me and told me to “get down on the ground nigger!” there was no hate crimes charge or followup investigation.
I am white and the cops pulled out their DWI task force patrols from my neighborhood because there were dangerous people in cars, not just the moneymachine they were after.
The new federal hate crimes law is not a regulation adopted in order to make regulation of interstate commerce effective.
To my mind, the analysis would be that of Morrison and Lopez, where the federal government is attempting to regulate activities that are not commerce and for a purpose that is not intended to supplement a larger federal scheme of regulating interstate commerce.
Growing crops (including marijuana), by contrast, at least deals with questions of commerce. I view Morrison and Lopez as being a different line of analysis than Raich and the upcoming Obamacare decision.
However, five liberal justices would rubber stamp the hate crimes law no matter what the analysis.
Probably preparing for the 2012 election.
Back in the Dark Ages, the petty kingdoms of Europe had laws providing for different penalties for the same crime, depending on the status of the victim.
As we revert to tribalism, we are seeing the same thing in a different context, where politically powerful lobbies such as the homosexual lobby and the black caucus are able to pass laws providing for a higher penalty for crimes against members of their group.
Thank you for your insights. Interesting.
George Zimmerman Has Black Roots
The worlds most famous “white Hispanic” is part black
George Zimmerman’s Black Ancestry is Revealed
George Zimmerman: Afro-Peruvian White Hispanic Obama soul brother didnt want a gun
Nejame on new Zimmerman family photo: “He really has significant multiracial, multicultural roots”
So, they are already realizing that the evidence is most probably going to result in a acquital in the State trial.
They are going to drive this into the ground and it will impact the election if they keep it up...and that’s agood thing. People are tired of these little tyrant wannabes and open rascists.
Not sure that this is anything new. Holder’s bunch has been in this up to their eyebrows since mid-March. Threatening too.
Obama said so.
The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.
The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.
Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?
(the autopsy states she was raped. Dont think all of these animals didnt all participate)
And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?
Mr. Strait died from his injuries last week.
Theres a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.
WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??
90 year old husbands jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?
85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??
Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?
WHERE IS THE NATIONAL OUTRAGE?
Have they caught the rest of the gang of feral blacks who raped, tortured and murdered this elderly woman? Are they even looking? Not a word about it in the media.
Don’t the anthropologists and other scientists say we’re all from Africa? Where’s my TANF, SNAP, WIA, UI, WIC and all the rest?
The government is now siding with looting, riots and monkey picking at people and issues.
This is the quintessential Banana Republic.
I remember being mocked 6 years ago or so for coining the word the “Zimbabwe-ing” of America under Mugabe style rule.
There is no national outrage because every one believes the fairy tale that the Soviet Union high minded communists delivered us from the Nazi animals... birds of a feather.
That all seems on target to me.
Yes, it's amazing how programs designed initially to help the 'truly needy' have balooned into a purposeful Cloward-Piven strategy to collapse the capitalist free enterprise system.
This action is exactly like Saul Alinsky's book "Rules for Radicals."
Saul Alinsky was a far left wing militant Marxist radical. Obama reflects Saul Alinsky's left wing philosophy with exact precision.
Best quote of the day. It's not PC gone mad, it's PC at its coldly-calculating, viciously hostile worst.
You're right -- Obama is deliberately provoking racial animosity.
Next step is to move the trial -- watch, they'll try to get an all-black jury. They'll want to move it to Miami or DC.
These are shades of Janet Reno murdering those kids at Waco.
Holder was congratulating himself in how he effectively instilled fear, embarassment, guilt and loathing in smokers with all the laws in place - just because. The man is a sick fascist with an evil sort of enjoyment for acting in cruel manner for the hell of it on citizens.
We have some sick maniacs in government. I wonder how much further are they willing to go, testing boundaries like this. This is very interesting.
You’re right. Kangaroo Court comes to mind.
This is being purposefully done to divide Americans and to foment hostilities.
Has anyone been arrested?
WITHOUT a return mailing address, for SURE that should be put in the mail to the New Black Panthers in Chicago. LOL!
You have to remember, getting shot with firearms becomes an OSHA safety violation for members of SEIU thug and burglars union locals. This workplace problem can only be minimized by eliminating stand your ground, castle doctrine, open carry and concealed carry laws and emphasizing hate crime and profiling regulations.
Obama is trying to arrange riots before the election.
Actually, he was very acutely aware of the uses and misuses of language, and he detested easy resorts to cliche and popular formularies about ideas. Clarity was extremely important to him, something he had come to appreciate after years of wading through ideological and war propaganda, first as a follower and apologist of the Left in the early and mid-1930's, and after his nearly-fatal experiences during the Spanish Civil War, an enemy of totalitarianism and the Big Lie.
From one of his essays in Wiki,
-- George Orwell, "Politics and the English Language", 1946.
- Never use a metaphor, simile, or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.
- Never use a long word where a short one will do.
- If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
- Never use the passive where you can use the active.
- Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
- Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.
Yeah so do I, but that was back when Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. was running the show.
Logically yes, and I hope you're right. But the important thing here is to do what has already been done: the U.S. Government, with Obama at the helm and Holder on the quarterdeck, is officially baring its teeth at white Americans.
They are trying to provoke something they can use as a Reichstag Moment.
They're goading their votaries. Zimmerman for the blacks, "war on women" for the welfare widows and man-haters, "gay as a Disney cow" for the homosexual movement werewolves.
This is about trying to hit 80% turnout on the Tax-Eater side next November.