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GOP needs Marco Rubio to ward off extinction
BIZPACReview.com ^ | 5/15/2012 | Kingsley Guy

Posted on 05/15/2012 6:48:25 AM PDT by SmileRight

The Republican Party faces a threat to its existence. It’s not an ideological threat, but a demographic and mathematical one. Unless the GOP acts to change the math by broadening its appeal to minorities, it will cease being a major force in American politics.

If you have any doubt about this, look at the numbers:

In 1960, white Americans made up 94 percent of the electorate. By 2010, the figure had dropped to 75 percent.

Among African-Americans, more than 90 percent vote Democratic, and in the 2008 presidential race, 96 percent chose President Obama. For Asian-Americans, a clear majority consistently votes Democratic. In the last presidential election, 56 percent voted for Obama.

Among Hispanic-Americans, the fastest growing segment of the electorate, the ratio of Democrats to Republicans is about 2-to-1. Eight years ago, four out of 10 Hispanics voted for ...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demographics; diversity; gop; hispanics; hispanicvote; immigration; marcorubio; trends
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The "establishment" needs to wake up and look for ways to solve the immigration problem instead of avoiding it. It's time to face the facts, the electorate is changing.
1 posted on 05/15/2012 6:48:33 AM PDT by SmileRight
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To: SmileRight

PALIN 2016


2 posted on 05/15/2012 6:52:47 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: SmileRight

Its time to end this two faced conversation about “race?”


3 posted on 05/15/2012 6:54:18 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: SmileRight

The question actually resolves to whether the latest wave of immigrants plans on becoming integrated into the existing population and generating the same or similar levels of productivity or if they plan on being perpetual free riders.

If the former, then I would agree that Marco Rubio is emblematic of exactly the kind of ethnic person we should support (I would no matter his ethnicity, he seems to be an upright man independent of the local source of his bloodline). If the latter, then we may as well fragment now and minimize the pain.


4 posted on 05/15/2012 6:55:30 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: SmileRight
I automatically assume anyone calling themselves republican peddling the idea that groveling before any specific constituency is full of sh*t.

Pandering, especially to ethnic groups, is exactly what is dividing and destroying this country.

5 posted on 05/15/2012 6:56:17 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SmileRight

c’mon folks! get real. the VP slot is nothing more than a sop thrown to keep the conservatives on the reservation. think of this position as ‘our biden’. it’s useless.
it’s high time to break away. the GOP establishment has lost its way and doesn’t want to find it. time to move on...


6 posted on 05/15/2012 6:57:12 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: SmileRight

If appealing to minorities means special hand-outs, affirmative action and political correctness then I am afraid that we need to find another way to ‘solve the immigration problem’.


7 posted on 05/15/2012 6:58:18 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: SmileRight
Any GOP establishment types who fancy Rubio for VP or even pres need to read my tagline: I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.

Rubio is ineligible for the presidency, as is Obama.

8 posted on 05/15/2012 7:03:12 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Bob Buchholz

I agree with you 100%, the hand-outs need to stop. But we could find a way to integrate those who really want to be a part of our country and not to just reestablish their country here. I especially don’t think the illegals should be given anything. But those who are willing to work for it should have some pathway.


9 posted on 05/15/2012 7:04:01 AM PDT by SmileRight
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To: SmileRight
The immigration problem is that we are taking too many, 1.2 million a year, and most are poor, uneducated, and unskilled. They are adding to a permanent underclass in this country and will vote Democrat.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 90 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in a net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by an additional 130 million to 440 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any developed country in the world, i.e., 0.963% (2011 estimate,) principally due to immigration.

87 percent of the 1.2 million legal immigrants entering annually are minorities as defined by the U.S. Government and almost all of the illegal aliens are minorities. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under in the U.S. will be classified as minorities and by 2039, half of the residents of this country will be minorities. Generally, immigrants and minorities vote predominantly for the Democrat Party. Hence, Democrats view immigration as a never-ending source of voters that will make them the permanent majority party.

Since the 1965 Immigration Act, our pro-population growth immigration policies have fueled major demographic changes in a very short period of time. In 1970, non-Hispanic whites comprised 89 percent of the population; today they are 66 percent; and by 2039, they will be 50 percent. The Democrats, under the banner of multiculturalism and diversity, have forged a political coalition that depends on individuals coalescing around racial and ethnic identities rather than the issues. The continuing and increasing flow of minority immigrants, mostly poor and uneducated, provides a natural constituency for the Democrats, which see them as their principal source of political power.

10 posted on 05/15/2012 7:06:32 AM PDT by kabar
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To: junta

The problem, as I see it, relates to this idea that whites are alone in voting on the right. Apparently whites have a monopoly on conservatism, and we’re fighting an uphill, into-the-wind battle.

I don’t believe that.


11 posted on 05/15/2012 7:07:44 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SmileRight
But those who are willing to work for it should have some pathway.

There is a way - get in line.

No shortcuts, no line jumpers.

No law breakers. We have too many of those already.

12 posted on 05/15/2012 7:07:53 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter; SmileRight

Exactly. Since the GOP has been working toward extinction since 1960, why would they want to ward it off?


13 posted on 05/15/2012 7:14:15 AM PDT by ngat
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To: SmileRight

"But we could find a way to integrate those who really want to be a part of our country and not to just reestablish their country here."

Call me crazy, but I think we already have a process for people who want to become legal citizens of this country...

14 posted on 05/15/2012 7:14:44 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: SmileRight
But we could find a way to integrate those who really want to be a part of our country and not to just reestablish their country here. I especially don’t think the illegals should be given anything. But those who are willing to work for it should have some pathway.

Why should we find a "pathway" for lawbreakers who entered illegally flaunting our laws and national sovereignty? Lawbreakers who committed identity theft, tax evasion, working illegally, etc. deserve a "pathway?" How about the several million intending immigrants waiting overseas for their turn to enter after completing the paperwork, background investigations, physcials, etc.? How fair is it to them for the lawbreakers to get to the head of the line by allowing them to stay and work here, i.e., amnesty?

We had a one-time amnesty in 1986. The supporters said it would the first and last amnesty. The USG estimated that 1 million would apply, but the true number turned out to be 2.7 million. The process was rife with fraud. Now we have 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in this country.

Any legislation that legalizes the status of those who broke our laws by entering our country illegally and allows them to stay and work here is amnesty. We must not only prevent the Democrats and some moderate Republicans from hijacking the meaning of the word amnesty, but the public must be made aware about the true impact of an amnesty. The Heritage Foundation concluded that the cost of amnesty would be $2.6 trillion just for increased entitlement program costs. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen.

15 posted on 05/15/2012 7:15:52 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Hey, LBJ, is that you?


16 posted on 05/15/2012 7:16:10 AM PDT by ngat
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To: SmileRight

Exactly what does Rubio have to offer? That he originally sounded like a Conservative, but seems to have changed his mind after the Right fawned all over him without vetting him? He has as much “experience” as Obama had when he was put in the WH.


17 posted on 05/15/2012 7:16:45 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: SmileRight

How the heck do we keep winning elections? We’ve won most everything possible over the past 28 months.

We win them by selling our principles and pulling people to our views. The latino population is not the black population. It is diverse and can be won over.

Rubio as VP is not the only way to accomplish this. In fact, attaching Rubio to a candidate like Romney may ultimately do more harm than good. Rubio can stand on his own w/o coat tales. A Rubio keynote address at the convention would be a launching pad possibly even beyond VP. That’s how Clinton and Obama got their start into presidential politics...as well as Mario Cuomo before that.


18 posted on 05/15/2012 7:16:45 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: SmileRight

Skin tone is not a conservative value. I think you need to talk to the Demonic Party about that.


19 posted on 05/15/2012 7:19:15 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SmileRight

***The Republican Party faces a threat to its existence. It’s not an ideological threat, but a demographic and mathematical one.***

I disagree. The Republican party’s woes are rooted in ideology coupled with a severe lack of cajones.

This race BS really needs to stop. Fact is people all around the world want to come here because of TRADITIONAL AMERICAN VALUES, namely, freedom, liberty, rule of law, a market economy, rights that come from God and not man or woman.

But since the GOP doesn’t have the guts to stand up for these principles, their days are numbered.


20 posted on 05/15/2012 7:22:25 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Forget the GOP and build the Constitution Party, because the status quo is no longer the way to go.)
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To: SmileRight

Birthers in 3-—2-—


21 posted on 05/15/2012 7:22:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SmileRight

Every single choice for VP is a senator that will reduce the nubmer of republicans in control or if repalced will be by a “moderate” like Kasich. Leave the good senators alone and work on someone thatcan create other values - like Christie who is be best attack spokeman for balanced budget and fighting unions in government.


22 posted on 05/15/2012 7:23:44 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: ngat
Since the GOP has been working toward extinction since 1960, why would they want to ward it off?

Buy adapting LBJ's recipe for electoral success? Sure thing...

23 posted on 05/15/2012 7:23:44 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SmileRight

America needs Marco Rubio - or somebody like him. And it has nothing at all to do with his ethnic background.

Conservatism wins, every time it is offered. The problem is, in many venues we have not been offered a conservative alternative for quite some time now. When the real thing is offered, either it ends up being co-opted or corrupted before it has had a chance to prove itself, or it goes on to success, surpassing all expectations and shifting the paradigm. Then, for at least a brief while, the general public gets to enjoy a true renaissance and genuine prosperity, until the internal contradictions that arise from being fully satisfied again brew boredom, discontent, and some nagging desire for “change”.


24 posted on 05/15/2012 7:25:36 AM PDT by alloysteel (Fear and intimidation work. At least on the short term.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

When you are right you are right. The only thing that will keep me from voting is if the GOP runs an ineligible candidate. Just because we let one cat slip through the door does not mean we should do it again.


25 posted on 05/15/2012 7:28:56 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Qbert; kabar

I was referring more to the kids who were brought here by adults, or were born here, who want to be productive. As far as I’m concerned, they can send back the ones who purposely came here illegally.


26 posted on 05/15/2012 7:35:02 AM PDT by SmileRight
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To: SmileRight

Rubio brings the following to the ticket:

Swing State = Florida
True Conservative Values
Hispanic vote
Youth, intelligence, and an ability to articulate a plan.
An Illegal Immigration plan slightly more sophisticated than “ship ‘em all back”.


27 posted on 05/15/2012 7:37:59 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: SmileRight

IF 1.) “ - - - I especially don’t think the illegals should be given anything. - - -, “ THEN 2.) “ - - - But those who are willing to work for it should have some pathway.” is a classic example of RINO double-think.

RINO double-think IS the reason that the Republican Party has already gone extinct.

The last Republican President was the one who spent less of our Federal dollars than was taken in as income during the previous year.

As a newbie at FR, look it up. Shouldn’t take to long as EVERY Republican President in the last 100 years has promised to “Balance the Budget.”

BTW, Welcome to FR! Obey Jim’s Rules, develop a thick skin quickly, donate when you can, and ENJOY FR!


28 posted on 05/15/2012 7:39:39 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: SmileRight

"I was referring more to the kids who were brought here by adults, or were born here, who want to be productive."

Does the law somehow prevent them from eventually applying for legal citizenship?...

29 posted on 05/15/2012 7:42:13 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: kabar

Great post/info. Thanks.


30 posted on 05/15/2012 7:45:01 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: SmileRight

We should reward someone whose first act is to break our law?
Who decides if they want to be here for the right reasons?
For the Republican party to retain legitimacy it needs break free of the choke hold of the GOP establishment that gave us Romney, McCain, Dole.
It needs to start real conservative news and political outlets on cable, Internet and radio to get the message of liberty to the uneducated masses.
It needs to wrestle our children away from the gubmint, union schools where they are brainwashed with the democratic message of hate and tyranny.
It needs to increase Republican voter turnout.


31 posted on 05/15/2012 7:46:23 AM PDT by Eagles6 (S)
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To: SmileRight

“GOP needs Marco Rubio to ward off extinction”

GOP + Marco Rubio = extinction.

What did P.T. Barnum say?


32 posted on 05/15/2012 7:58:17 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: G Larry
An Illegal Immigration plan slightly more sophisticated than “ship ‘em all back”.
"Slightly more" being the operative word for not voting for anymore frauds.
27 posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:37:59 AM by G Larry
(Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
So do frauds.
33 posted on 05/15/2012 8:00:37 AM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: SmileRight

Battered Spouse Syndrome is a terrible thing. Advocating it politically is not good either.


34 posted on 05/15/2012 8:04:25 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: rarestia

“The problem, as I see it, relates to this idea that whites are alone in voting on the right. Apparently whites have a monopoly on conservatism, and we’re fighting an uphill, into-the-wind battle.”

Not all whites are conservative.
But the overwhelming majority of conservatives are white.

There is a Pollyann-ish cohort of conservatives who believe that anyone and everyone will “embrace conservatism” — if only they can be shown conservative principles, they will logically see such principles as superior and will choose them over liberalism.

Such beliefs are fantasies. They will not happen.
When will we wake up?


35 posted on 05/15/2012 8:08:36 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: ilgipper
"A Rubio keynote address at the convention would be a launching pad possibly even beyond VP. That’s how Clinton and Obama got their start into presidential politics...as well as Mario Cuomo before that."

So, we as Conservatives need to copy-cat the RATS? Rubio will give a good convention speech and so what? What has he ever done to derserve to be elevated by us?

Look at exactly what we got with smooth talkers like Clinton, Obama & Cuomo. Good speech con-men and liberals that are embedded in the political system forever! They enrich themselves & do everything they can to bankrupt the country.

There are many worthy & ethical Conservatives with good character, who are patriots and love our country. They have the same ideals that we dol THESE are the kind of candidates that we need to elect in order to change the GOP. We don't need more of the same of what we already have.

36 posted on 05/15/2012 8:10:15 AM PDT by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: G Larry

“An Illegal Immigration plan slightly more sophisticated than “ship ‘em all back”.”

Anything more “sophisticated” than that, is AMNESTY, just couched in more ... um.... “sophisticated” language...

No thanks.


37 posted on 05/15/2012 8:12:35 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: backwoods-engineer

“Rubio is ineligible for the presidency, as is Obama.”

Right you are. Throw Bobby Jindal into the mix also.

Funny how even here, the media, and in the halls of Goverment, The Constitutional eligibility requirements for the President and Vice President has morphed from being a “natural born citizen” into being a “citizen.”

Keep up the good fight engineer, because, without this push back, we are losing the war of words to the leftists who have gone out of their way way to show us their ill intent.


38 posted on 05/15/2012 8:18:31 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: SmileRight
Take it to the bank!

Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell will be the VP pick.

Memorize the spelling NOW. So I won't have to keep correcting all of you as I had to with Michele Bachmann.

39 posted on 05/15/2012 8:23:06 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: G Larry

“Rubio brings the following to the ticket:.....”

Rubio, as a potential Pres. or VP candidate, brings nothing more than a slide further away from our Constitution.

Take the longer view....after all we’re not Democrats/socialists/communists are we?


40 posted on 05/15/2012 8:23:08 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: lewislynn

Got a workable solution Mr. Depth?


41 posted on 05/15/2012 8:23:38 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: Forty-Niner

oh?

and what is that “slide”?


42 posted on 05/15/2012 8:25:25 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: faucetman
Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell will be the VP pick.

Interesting pick, would neutralize the impact Goode would have in VA.

43 posted on 05/15/2012 8:26:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SmileRight

Rubio is a (partial) first term Senator, inexperienced, ineligible, minority.

HELLO???????????????????????????????????


44 posted on 05/15/2012 8:28:46 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

I hope not. McDonnell is not as conservative as many think he is.


45 posted on 05/15/2012 8:30:24 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SmileRight
Any party that looks at its base with distaste, isn't long for this world.

If the GOP goes down, something else (perhaps something better) will quickly arise.

46 posted on 05/15/2012 8:32:49 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: SmileRight

“It’s not an ideological threat, but a demographic and mathematical one.”

Uh, yes it is an ideological threat, because you assume racial/ethnic minorities will continue to have a certain ideology. Your answer, by the way, being that the GOP needs to broaden its appeal itself is obviously ideological: either the GOP needs to change its ideology or it needs to change minorities’ ideology, or both. What a stupid article.


47 posted on 05/15/2012 8:36:19 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: G Larry
An Illegal Immigration plan slightly more sophisticated than “ship ‘em all back”.

What exactly is his immigration plan?

48 posted on 05/15/2012 8:41:44 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SmileRight
Rino Rubio can eat shit and go to hell. No point in pandering to those who are always going to be inclined to vote for the marxists who will promise them the biggest handouts.

It's a better idea to let the GOP die and construct a new party that rejects the current status quo of either current party. It's probably already too late anyways as we now have too many parasites and a return to sanity is likely not possible again without another civil war.

49 posted on 05/15/2012 8:43:59 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: rarestia

53% of Hispanics self-describe themselves as white. Hispanics can be of any race.


50 posted on 05/15/2012 8:44:42 AM PDT by kabar
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