Posted on 05/15/2012 10:06:05 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
In an unusual effort to rebut bad news on the jobs front, the Walker administration is speeding up release of new numbers showing job gains rather than job losses in Wisconsin last year.
The numbers come from a source familiar to many economists but one that hasn't figured until now in the state's highly politicized jobs debate heading into the June 5 recall election: the Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages.
The new figures, provided to the Journal Sentinel on Tuesday, cover the final three months of 2011.
State officials said they show a gain of 23,321 jobs (public and private) between December 2010 and December 2011, which represents Gov. Scott Walker's first full year in office.
That stands in sharp contrast to a commonly used and widely reported monthly jobs measure, the Current Employment Survey, which earlier this year showed an estimated loss of 33,900 jobs in Wisconsin for the same 12-month period.
Job numbers are reported in different ways, based on different sources, and it's been common throughout the current recovery for different data to tell different stories.
But in this case, one set of well-publicized numbers (from the Current Employment Survey of businesses) put Wisconsin at the very bottom of 50 states in job creation during Walker's first year. These figures were based on a sample of 3.5% of the state's employers and are subject to significant revisions.
The other numbers, from the Quarterly Census, tell a more positive story, one the Walker administration is in a hurry to get out. They are based on a jobs count, not a survey. Each state gathers the quarterly census data from virtually all employers in both the public and private sectors, which are mandated to share staff and wage data as part of their tax and unemployment insurance reports.
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The spin: "But it's not the numbers we media folks usually rely on, and it might help mean ol' Walker win!"
The result: The liberal media boys will need to be in traction for weeks after trying to put this much english on such a pro-Walker development.
Smells like fedgov obastard "statistics" aka lies...
How dare Walker use statistics based on the totality of a population of numbers, in order to rebut statistics that are just a SAMPLE of a SURVEY! Gee, Obama would never have done that! If you want cooking of the books, just watch the blatantly fraudulent numbers used to ram through Obamacare down our throats.
How dare Walker use statistics based on the totality of a population of numbers, in order to rebut statistics that are just a SAMPLE of a SURVEY! Gee, Obama would never have done that! If you want cooking of the books, just watch the blatantly fraudulent numbers used to ram through Obamacare down our throats.
And just how do the pollmeisters pick this representative sample? If old industries suffer but new ones appear and burgeon, doesn’t this methodology entirely miss the new ones?
The whole thrust of the Walker reforms isn’t just job creation; speaking as someone from NJ (with similar problems, and a similar solution in Governor Christie), one of the main focuses has been to stop people from losing their homes because their public employees are costing them $7K+ annually. Even if jobs aren’t created at all, reigning in the cost of our government worker caste will save people money.
I’m curious............Those in Wisconsin job reports......Was loosing a potential iron ore mine in norhtern Wisconsin (a mine that would have CREATED new jobs), counted as “jobs lost”? (the jobs never existed but were “potential” jobs). Just wondering?
I’m curious............Those in Wisconsin job reports......Was loosing a potential iron ore mine in norhtern Wisconsin (a mine that would have CREATED new jobs), counted as “jobs lost”? (the jobs never existed but were “potential” jobs). Just wondering?
That’s a good question; the Dems would have you believe that anyone still working is a job saved, while anyone hired to replace a retiree is a job created.
Wisconsin: Good news on jobs numbers boosts Walker campaign ping; Democrats and Media go into tailspin.
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madison.com publishes this under the headline “Using different measuring standard, Walker releases more positive jobs numbers” which is technically correct; but the way it’s written, infers some statistical sleight-of-hand is going on.
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