Posted on 05/18/2012 5:58:15 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Trayvon Martin's death was “avoidable.”
That’s the conclusion of a new police report on the unarmed teen’s killing at the hands of George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
"The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement, or conversely, if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialog in an effort to dispel each party's concern," the document by Sanford, Fla. Police said.
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
It doesn't matter. It's a free country. We're all allowed to follow whoever we want to follow in our communities. Community watch or not. The only time that's NOT allowed is by court order (stalking cases, abusive spouse - etc).
Newspapers even have the right to photograph people on sidewalks and follow them... just as I have that right - and you do too.
U The 911 operator suggested Zimmerman NOT follow Trayvon for HIS safety because following alleged criminals can be dangerous. The operator was not implying that all blacks have special rights the rest of us don't have...
Here is one for you: George Zimmerman. (who by the way has been consistent and not made any statements to make him seem unreliable).
Thank you for providing me free entertainment on this thread. I look forward to the second half later where I am sure you will make an even bigger ass out of yourself.
Certainly. Zimmerman possibly being unwise but legal is not the question at this circus trial and the lament from the Sanford police about this can only serve to mislead. They’d have to show beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman picked the fight in such a way that Martin would have been legally justified in physically injuring Zimmerman in his self defense. No can do, short of some unimpeachable eyewitnesses or camera evidence.
People in the media are afraid they'll lose their jobs if there dare to criticize a black criminal. The press has been bullied into submission - then again, maybe they like living on their knees....
People in the media are afraid they'll lose their jobs if there dare to criticize a black criminal. The press has been bullied into submission - then again, maybe they like living on their knees.... Someone should ask the New York Times and Washington Post suck ups and find out if that's true.
I wouldn’t begrudge a more handsome remuneration to police personnel (that’s a rather small part of a police budget) IF, in return, retention could be based strictly upon merit evaluations into which integrity would be an essential element that couldn’t be outweighed by other factors.
We can NEVER forget that a trial is SUPPOSED TO BE UNFAIR to the state.
This is by design.
ALL the burden is on the state. ALL of it.
A prosecutor who tries to shift that burden via games with the jury will be toast.
You can make up your own story as you wish, but it is at odds with everything I read in the news. Where does it say that if you have a permit to carry, that you are prohibited to carry while on neighborhood watch? Our neighborhood watch has no such rule, nor does any that I know of.
The news reported that his call was to 911 on several occasions. In fact they have repeatedly reported that he told the 911 operator that he was following the kid and the operator said ‘we don’t need you to do that’.
Zimmerman was heading back to his vehicle when he was approached by Martin. Martin was aggresive and punched Zimmerman in the face and knocked him to the ground. Then Martin jumped on top of him and repeatedly slammed his head into the sidewalk. Zinmmerman’s shirt pulled up in the struggle and the gun became apparent. They both reached for the gun and Martin got the slide and Zimmerman got the handle according to the news.
The gun fired but the next round did not chamber because Martin had ahold of the slide, according to the news account. If I have it wrong, it is because the news got it wrong.
I am passing only what I read in the news as fact. If it is wrong, I am sorry, but I have nothing else to go on.
Ought to be toast, but the toaster is busted in a lot of places.
If these were conducted solely by a rotating board of average citizens, I wouldn't care how handsomly were paid. The point was that a police presence, even a mannequin in a squad car, does deter criminal behavior. It doesn't need to cost 50, 100 or 200k a year.
“Does a drunk beautiful woman, in a slutty dress, walking alone in a dark alley at 2:30 am lose the right to shoot her rapist?”
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
No but she is open to charges of shooting over a baited field!
Do you have any proof that Martin ran and Z chased him?
So, by your definition, confrontation by Martin is the opposite of avoidance, right?
__________________________________
Zimmerman told the PD operator that Martin ran. Zimmerman told the PD oerator that he was following him. I never wrote 'chased'.
____________________________________
To confront is the antonym of to avoid - I learned that in fourth grade. What did you learn?
I’ve learned that you’re on the wrong forum and poorly informed and in New York and just might be Mayor Bloomy himself! Should I post the link to DU or do you have it?
IF only there was no George Zimmerman.
IF only there was no vehicle.
IF only there was no Neighborhood Watch.
If only there was no neighborhood.......
Unfortunately, the hooded knucklehead was connected to his bruised knucklebone which was unfortunately connected to George Zimmerman's nosebone.....oh, hear the word of the Lord.
That is reality.
Leni
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.