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1 posted on 05/20/2012 5:46:59 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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All that money thrown out the window for no good reason at all. And not just in England. All over the West, politicians are betraying their people. I can’t wait for the Great Backlash…
2 posted on 05/20/2012 5:56:52 AM PDT by cartan
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“Set to” my butt.


3 posted on 05/20/2012 5:57:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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Wasn’t this always the point? Higher bills mean higher taxes.


5 posted on 05/20/2012 6:07:45 AM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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"DECC has insisted that energy bills will begin to fall from next year"

So they think Zero's gonna lose, too. Only possible way energy prices will drop.

7 posted on 05/20/2012 6:12:33 AM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
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We can buy wind as an alternate here. They charge you about 25% more per 100 kw. Of course, thre are taxes on top of that.

Why would I buy wind when I am getting nuclear??

8 posted on 05/20/2012 6:24:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Raise the cost of energy so we, the government, can make it greener and cheaper. (After we double the cost, we’ll reduce it 10% and claim victory.)


9 posted on 05/20/2012 6:27:37 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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The Left likes any form of energy production that does not work.

Wind -- doesn't work -- they love it, and want to subsidize it (they need to, because it doesn't work).
Solar -- doesn't work -- they love it, and want to subsidize it (they need to, because it doesn't work).

Nuclear -- it works; they hate it.
Oil from ANWR -- it works; they hate it.
Oil from offshore -- it works; they hate it.
Gas and Oil from fracking -- it works; they hate it.

If the day ever comes when Wind or Solar energy is actually viable, the Left will hate them too. Cheap access to energy makes men free -- for the Left, that's the problem right there.

10 posted on 05/20/2012 6:34:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To put this into American: 94 pounds = 150 dollars. If the 7% increase is $150, then the overall bill is $2,150. I’m guessing this is an annual bill, so that means they are calculating this on an average electric bill of about $180. That doesn’t strike me as an outrageous price.


14 posted on 05/20/2012 7:08:58 AM PDT by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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I elected to install PV solar panels to offset my outrageously high So Cal Edison (SCE)electric bill. I work at home, and since my wife is handicapped, she is home during the day. Consequently, the cost of cooling in the desert is very high given the socially motivated tiered pricing structure used by SCE. Plus, I use computers in my work, some of which support off-site activity and run 24/7. My SCE bill ranges from $200/mo in winter to as high as $600/mo for the other seasons. The rate starts at $0.13/kwh and quickly rises to $0.30/kwh.
I evaluated the ROI for a solar system after obtaining quotes from a couple of solar installers. A system to offset my usage was quoted at about $40,000, or about $25,000 out of pocket after incentives and credits. Although marginally cost effective, over 10 years, I was not motivated to move forward.
I checked the cost of solar panels and found the price had dropped to about $1.23/watt, and more recently to $0.99/watt. I found I could purchase the panels, mounts and a direct-to-line inverter for about $8,000, and do the relatively easily installation at no cost by doing the work myself. I didn’t even apply for any of the incentives. Since I live on more than an acre, in a very rural area, space and trees were no problem.
To connect the system, SCE required a signed off building permit. The L.A. County Building and Safety Department required a Planning Department Permit. The Planning Department permit cost $463 for a five minute review to state there was no problem. The Building and Safety Permit cost another $391. Don’t you just love those regulators that charge big bucks for doing virtually nothing useful, even when the applicant is contributing to the green energy objective. I suppose they want some front-end recovery from the revenue loss imposed by the 10% utility tax.
I’ll admit that I’m no greenie and I evaluated the project based entirely from a financial perspective. The favorable ROI was only achievable due to the perverted rate structure imposed to encourage us to use less energy.
I personally abhor the socially inspired rate structures we now have for water and electricity. So far as I’m concerned, the 1st kilowatt should cost the same 800th kilowatt, since the cost to produce either is the same. I hate to use gasoline as a model, but my 1st gallon of gasoline costs the same as the 100th gallon in any given month. I’m not making a case that either the first or last gallon is priced fairly, but the cost is at least the same. Electricity should be priced the same way for small residential users to large corporations.


15 posted on 05/20/2012 8:53:16 AM PDT by RLM
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wind farms kill bats and birds but lame-stream media never reports that. i like bats and i like birds. too bad we can’t figure out how to fly eco-whackjob fascists into wind farms.


16 posted on 05/20/2012 10:42:01 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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