Posted on 05/21/2012 10:22:31 AM PDT by blam
Rawles: “It Would Be Impossible To Disarm The People Of This Country”
Mac Slavo
May 21st, 2012
How likely is it that we will actually experience a disaster that brings down our national power grid?
Will the government seize all guns in the United States?
If Continuity of Government response plans are initiated, will they be able to effectively lock down every major city and the country as a whole under a martial law scenario?
Is an economic collapse in our near future?
These and a host of other critical topics are covered in the latest interview from SGT Report with Survival Blog editor James Rawles.
Rawles on Gun Confiscation:
I think it would be impossible to disarm the people of this country. Along with Yemen we’re the most heavily armed society on the planet. It would be absolutely impossible to disarm the citizenry.
There might be an attempt to do it incremently over the course of generations. I think that’s the only way that would happen.
There are so many guns being produced each year – a couple of million guns each year – it’s just mathematically impossible, if not socially impossible, to even envision the logisitics of trying to disarm the American citizenry. It just can’t happen. There’s too many guns in circulation and they’re essentially the final guarantor of our freedom.
The next phase of the financial collapse:
I think that given the financial situation globally – if you look at what’s happening in Italy, Spain, Greece and the most recent election in France – we’re very likely to see a lot of financial turmoil in the coming months.
A lot of it will spill over into American markets. I think there is likely to be another global credit crisis like in 2008, and it could get very, very ugly very quickly.
I think it’s prudent for people to prepare. I think that if you look at it in terms of the clock face approach, we’re probably just minutes from midnight in terms of where we should be in terms of our preparedness.
Rawles on the probability of a grid-down worst-case scenario collapse:
In all of my writings I’ve stressed that the North American power grids – and there’re three of them – are the real lynch pin of our modern technological society.
If the grids go down, all bets are off.
It’s important that people plan for the worst case. The worst case would, of course, be grid down. The chances of that happening are fairly small, but if you’re prepared for the worst case you can take anything lesser in stride.
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In terms of the power grid, if they knock that leg out from underneath society they can create a cascade of events that will be completely beyond their control.
Martial law is not going to restore order if the power grid goes down and does not come back up within a few days.
On martial law:
I think the whole rhetoric about martial law tends to be overblown, because the logistics of implementing martial law would be daunting. Even in the United States, where we have a fairly sophisticated military, the numbers just don’t add up for martial law being instituted for more than just a very short period of time.
We have a military that’s primarily deployed overseas right now. The military here in the United States, active and reserve components, don’t even have enough vehicles for training much less live operations. The majority of the rolling stock for the US military right now is in places like Bosnia and Afghanistan.
How do you institute martial law if you can’t even get troops from point A to point B?
Obsessing on martial is probably not productive, but we do need to be on guard to guard our liberty, and we do need to speak up when there are abuses of our Constitutional Rights, especially the first amendment.
SGT Report with James Wesley Rawles (Part 1 of 2):
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SGT Report with James Wesley Rawles (Part 2 of 2):
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I think the police, from the smallest township PD up to various Federal agencies, will all follow orders. Any orders. Even orders to disarm all US citizens. A few will quit, a few more will grumble ... but they'll do it.
Don't kid yourself otherwise.
Oh, and the military?
They'll do it, too.
Gotta keep those terrorists from causing trouble.
There's a reason for the Posse Commitatus Act, and for the Second, Third, and Fourth Amendments.
I agree with you 100%. They will all follow orders.
And, if someone manages to cripple certain parts of the country (Fukushima fallout in AK and the NW, just for one example), massive and constant tornadoes in the MW, etc., there will go large segments of gun owners. It will be easier to corral the libs and easier to find snitches when a huge number of us are gone.
Or, we are too sick and weakened from the constant aerial assaults (geoengineering to fight phony global warming, for our own good) to fight back.
Because our govt does not fear the population,
IMHO your premise is flawed right there.
Two reasons why I agree with Rawles.
1. I am sure there are many in various levels of gov who are not on board with the commie revolution, there is dissension already. When a certain line gets crossed, TPTB may find a bit of trouble within the ranks.
2. When more collapse occurs, most cities (practically all I would think, depending on what collapses and how badly) will go so “hot” that TPTB’s attention will be focused on them primarily. Burning, looting, mayhem, roving gangs going further afield looking for victims, etc. Skirmishes all over the place. TPTB and their families don’t live in segretated special secret compounds, and whatever COG facilities exist will not have every single PTB safe and sound. And if all PTB were safe and sound in secret compounds then they wouldn’t be around to give orders.
Best laid plans of mice and men etc.
1) Our politicians do not fear an armed population. Maybe they should but they DON’T. So what does that tell us?
Of course they fear the armed population. That’s why F and F occured to be able to start removing the citizenry’s abiility to purchase guns. That’s why DHS etc continually try to demonize bitter clingers, vets and so on. They are afraid. They aren’t supermen, they’re egomaniac evil people who have many flaws and blind spots, and they don’t trust each other, for that matter.
First, we build a huge boat. Then we collect two of every type of firearm, and accidentally drop them over the side ....
I would suspect that same from the called-up National Guard. "I'm not gonna get my azz shot off - I'm a pharmacist [fill in the blanks] for Chrissakes!"
“How about blue helmeted U.N. troops???”
Would look just like the “Smurf” targets at the range.....red
I saw that, nully! Are these already the UN troops, or just a “coincidence” (i.e. acclimating the sheeple...)?
I’d say acclimating.
I have long thought that it is not the actual physical disarming of the population that would be our undoing.
It is the brainwashing of younger generations and the erosion of independant spirit and plain old guts that is the greater danger.
We can already see the great success liberals have had in creating a dependant, compliant, mostly urban culture who think it is extreme to own guns and to expect government to honor the Constitution and govern within its bounds.
A good point, but these are also the same people who play Grand Theft Auto, Medal of Honor, etc. In other words Gamers who have been subtly programmed to use hand held weapons in a very efficient and conscious free manner.
They also are primed to resist authority and although they wouldn’t be acting out of patriotism their actions might just have the same effect.
“Look up what happened in New Orleans after Katrina.”
Confiscations stopped quick when non compliant police agencies made clear what would happen if they continued.
Notice too that short of one little old lady, nobody who didn’t give ‘em up lost ‘em. Those who made clear it would be “bullets first” remained armed.
Yep reminds me of the old Yakoff Smirnoff joke. “Americans see the KGB as the government we see them as our neighbors”
Maybe foreign troops would be willing to lend a helping hand.
Lovely....
Well, at least they’re nice and visible... (hee)
/johnny
Oh for $&^#%^$#%....
Those were CHICAGO POLICE!!!!
Powder blue (especially accompanied by a “checkerboard” hatband) has been the “official” color of the Chicago PD since the early 1960s. Just look at pictures of older Chicago cop cars (i.e. Blues Brothers, Hill Street Blues, etc..) Heck, look at old footage of the riots of ‘68!
Foreign troops on Chicago’s streets would not have gone unnoticed or gone over well with the locals. (And I suspect many foreign troops would have been scared stiff of the prospect!)
Then have a couple, three “throwdown” guns and some ammo to sacrifice. The quality of “search” will either not be that great or will decline over time, as the total area to cover will invariably be less than the number of people able to do the job.
The military has been training to do it. They don’t go house to house to disarm people. They go house to house looking for terrorists, weapons dealers, or other “bad” people. Part of the process is to collect weapons.
“But if they realize that it is part of a diabolical master plan, if they are handed a map of an entire county and told to ignore paperwork, ignore permits, ignore the constitution on a national scale, I think a lot of them would rebel. “
Sure, which is why they won’t be told to do that. They’ll be told to do it in increments or because its an emergency.
They’ve normalized many behaviors which were completely unacceptable not too long ago. As long as they have power they will work towards their goal.
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