Posted on 05/22/2012 11:30:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Renouncing American citizenship is now cheered by patriotic conservatives?
Beam me up Scotty.
What do you think of retired NY public employees fleeing to FL to avoid onerous taxation?
A conservative is loyal to CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES. Such principles transcend the governments of ANY COUNTRY ( and the United States government is NOT exempt ).
One essential principle is this — Your property, lawfully acquired through talent and hard work, belongs to you regardless of whether you are a foreigner, a resident or citizen.
When government becomes CONFISCATORY, I see no reason why someone should not follow what the founding fathers did by peacefully renouncing their ties with their government, if and when they see that it is becoming more and more totalitarian.
Now, you can argue that the better course is for a conservative to FIGHT the government AS AN AMERICAN ( that would be my personal preference ). But I certainly would not call these people who leave, scum.
And I certainly would not support a confiscatory government BECOMING MORE CONFISCATORY by creating ex post facto laws targeting former citizens trying to protect their lawfully acquired wealth. That would be supporting BIGGER and MORE FAR REACHING and eventually MORE TOTALITARIAN government.
THAT would NOT be conservative by any stretch of the imagination.
A Conservative government would create and environment that ENCOURAGES wealth creators to STAY, not COERCIVE laws that create BIGGER GOVERNMENT like the Ex-Patriot Act.
“These are the most disgusting form of foreign scum, not Americans.”
Do you know any of the history of the United States?
What in the world does that bizarre question have to do with some scum bag traitor renouncing his American citizenship?
RE: What do you think of retired NY public employees fleeing to FL to avoid onerous taxation?
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Well, they would be considered TRAITORS to New York (there for, New York Scum), since they were former citizens of the Empire State (that is, if we follow the logic of some people).
Hey, you are trying to sell me on renouncing your citizenship as patriotic, then do it yourself, personally, I’m still an American.
RE: some scum bag traitor renouncing his American citizenship?
Again, explain to us WHY they are scum bags?
Was George Washington a scum bag for being disloyal and fighting against his King and country?
FREEDOM is a RIGHT, NOT A PRIVILEGE you owe to the government.
Demanding that people be “grateful” to the US Government for not having their freedom violated so much is morally obscene.
In any case, the freedom that wealth creators like Eduardo Saverin enjoyed in this country was the result not of the government (which would happily expand to totalitarian dimensions if it could) or of the ruling class (ditto), but of many generations of citizens working to restrain both. So asking Saverin to feel grateful to the government, and surrender his money to it, is like asking a patient to be grateful to a virus because, thanks to inoculations, he doesn’t suffer too badly from it.
Comparing moving from one state to another with renouncing American citizenship, shows how out of touch you are on this goofball scum bag, and his traitorous act.
I feel like I need to visit a veterans hall to get the stench off me from this rejection of patriotism.
RE: Hey, you are trying to sell me on renouncing your citizenship as patriotic, then do it yourself, personally, I’m still an American.
You seem to have missed a key sentence in my post #43 above. Please RE-READ it and UNDERSTAND my personal preference. I am not going to renounce my citizenship ( I prefer to fight a totalitarian government AT HOME ).
I am simply questioning your use of the word “scumbag” to describe, peaceful, law-abiding ex-citizens who follow our laws to renounce their citizenships.
RE: Comparing moving from one state to another with renouncing American citizenship, shows how out of touch you are on this goofball scum bag, and his traitorous act.
Hey the principle is still the same. Why is leaving New York not an act of disloyalty to the state?
And why are men like George Washington not traitors in your view?
You and I are two different types of people.
George Washington is my George Washington, the father of my country.
Eduardo Luiz Saverin is your George Washington, for renouncing America, and tearing up his citizenship, i call him anti-American scum.
I assumed you wouldn’t answer. I was right.
Really? Now you want to portray Washington as a traitor to the United States, to me, to my family that fought with him?
You have already compared the scum bag Brazilian to Washington.
When this country finally transitions from it's current state of soft tyranny to the more historic version, "America" will count on true "patriots" as the "rejectionists" are lined up against the wall.
You must be pretty thick, I did answer.
Your question was ridiculous, comparing moving around freely as Americans always have and freely do without a second thought, to renouncing American citizenship, is beyond goofy.
So, what is your opinion of retired NY public employees fleeing to FL to avoid onerous taxation?
Thank you for supporting my point, Eduardo Luiz Saverin won't be there, he doesn't have a dog in this hunt, and never did, the man is just international scum.
Really, you think moving to Florida is the same as renouncing American citizenship? How about moving to Ohio or California?
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