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Udder nonsense: Raw-milk confiscations begin
WND.com ^ | May 20, 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/22/2012 8:47:27 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The founder of the Organic Pastures business in California is reporting that government health officials have begun tracking down the names and addresses of natural-foods customers and showing up at their homes, demanding to confiscate any raw milk they might have.

The dispute over raw milk has reached a fever pitch in recent weeks, with a judge ruling that owners of cows have no right to the milk their herds produce, and protests being staged by mad moms whose access to such foods is being threatened.

The latest report is at NaturalNews.com, which interviewed McAfee.

The report said Los Angeles County health department officials have “unleashed door-to-door raw milk confiscation teams to threaten and intimidate raw dairy customers into surrendering raw milk products they legally purchased and own.”

“According to Mark McAfee, both L.A. County and San Diego County have attempted to acquire customer names and addresses from Organic Pastures for the sole purpose of sending ‘food confiscation teams’ to customers’ homes to remove the raw milk from customers’ refrigerators.”

NaturalNews.com quoted from one of McAfee’s reports:

I received a phone call yesterday morning from a wonderful young gal, a 36-year-old mom out of LA County. She’s one of our UPS customers that we deliver overnight raw milk to her house. When the CDFA was in here the other day on our recall, they demanded to have all our delivery addresses for overnight UPS delivery. We screwed up and [inadvertently] gave it to them, they got it from one of our secretaries here. The LA County health department started calling her, six or seven times, demanding that she give up her raw milk from her own home to the health department.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Minnesota; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; ban; bigdairy; bloodoftyrants; confiscations; foodfreedom; foodnazis; govtabuse; nannystate; rapeofliberty; rawmilk; tyranny
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1 posted on 05/22/2012 8:47:35 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

The shock troops are now going door-to-door, after the raw milk. (Maybe at the behest of Big Dairy?)

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 05/22/2012 8:49:39 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This could be another “I Told You So” moment for Rush Limbaugh. He mentioned the possibility of things like this happening sometime in the future when he spoke about organic foods just this week.


3 posted on 05/22/2012 8:52:50 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Spent much of my youth on my grandparents dairy farm ... drank raw milk on a daily basis, never had a problem. At 65, I guess the drinking of raw milk had no lasting effects. Just say’n


4 posted on 05/22/2012 8:54:49 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Mark Levin had a real-estate guy call in yesterday who said that the Federales showed up to demand to look at renters’ records.

No ID....no warrant.....nothing. Had to do with ‘lead paint’, I believe.

Guys......the frog is POACHED.


5 posted on 05/22/2012 8:56:03 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
with a judge ruling that owners of cows have no right to the milk their herds produce,

SO who exactly owns the milk that my herd produces?

If it's the case that I don't own the milk, then it logically follows that I don't own the eggs, or the young my herds produce either.

Nor do I apparently own the garden crops that my garden produces, nor the seeds with which to plant the next generation, nor do seed companies own the seeds their operations produce so they have no right to sell them. < /s >

Mexifornia gets nuttier by the day. And they can't figure out why people and businesses are leaving it in droves.

Let the Mex's have the place. Just send the lefty idiots down to south America first.

6 posted on 05/22/2012 8:59:16 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Udderly unconstitutional. Fascists. This is NOT a FREE country at all.


7 posted on 05/22/2012 9:00:25 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And nothing will be done about this.


8 posted on 05/22/2012 9:01:02 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

wow, I used to have to buy goats milk for my baby who couldn’t process pasteurized cow milk. Guess that was criminal, huh? Better to let him be hungry?


9 posted on 05/22/2012 9:06:26 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The peasants must get all their food through the big-government/big-corporate monopoly, that way when the time comes to reduce the human population they just have to flip a switch and cut off the food supply.


10 posted on 05/22/2012 9:06:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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11 posted on 05/22/2012 9:09:17 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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Farmageddon. If people drink raw milk, they’ll be missing out on the daily recommended dose of recombinant bovine growth hormone. Mmmmm rBGH. Mmmmmonsanto.


12 posted on 05/22/2012 9:10:35 PM PDT by Hayride
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Everything you posted is part of their plan. I’m harvesting okra this year from plants I planted last year. This year I’m going to try that with all my vegetables. Unless the feds are monitoring this and come and burn my garden. And I wouldn’t be that surprised if they did.


13 posted on 05/22/2012 9:17:06 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: savagesusie

Groan and lol :-)


14 posted on 05/22/2012 9:26:59 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: Terry Mross

Its time to start shooting if they show up with these demands and won’t go away.


15 posted on 05/22/2012 9:39:34 PM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: tsowellfan

Rush (whom I love and respect) has his head up his azz on this particular subject!

Does he really think his personal chef is serving him GMO? Or Obumbler’s chef is serving him GMO for that matter?

No, poison is only for “the peons”... the population control will continue.

Rush’s opinions on organic food are based on sheer ignorance, he knows not what of he speaks.


16 posted on 05/22/2012 9:54:02 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Don’t wanna drink any bad milk!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JyN6Obi7eI


17 posted on 05/22/2012 9:59:29 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Can bankrupt California really afford to waste precious budget funds on this nonsense?


18 posted on 05/22/2012 9:59:43 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Just a preview of how the knuckleheads in both parties think they have a right to rule. We have to take over the local govts and put a stop to this. Don’t let one little slight of rights pass because it becomes the lever to take away the next right. If you see a camera on your street light, ask your county boys who in the f put it there and who is paying for it. Chances are they don’t know but once you tell them about it they will start asking questions. They probably won’t like it either and with your support they will light a fire under someones ass.


19 posted on 05/22/2012 10:02:02 PM PDT by SteelTrap
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To: acapesket

I second that!


20 posted on 05/22/2012 10:11:29 PM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, completing La Raza's conquest of El Norte.)
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To: doc1019

I, too, drank raw milk for the first twelve years of my life - didn’t realize it came any other way. It always tasted funny in the spring when the cows had been eating some kind of weed or another. We had four cows, one of them a Jersey who gave about half cream. Before school one was mine to milk, then run milk through separator and then wash everything up - all before going to school. Sunday dinner always included home churned ice cream - half raw milk and half raw cream mixed with right-out-of-the chicken fresh eggs, lots of sugar and pure vanilla. None of it was cooked. Mom also made homemade cottage cheese. Never will forget the smell - still makes me gag to think about it. But none of this must have been too bad as I’m still around many, many years later.


21 posted on 05/22/2012 10:14:32 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Jury nullifications and unfortunate accidents.


22 posted on 05/22/2012 10:30:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

so you can go to the store buy rat poison and drink it, but buying raw milk is a “federal offense”.....

OK....

hello 1984...


23 posted on 05/22/2012 11:24:00 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If anyone thinks they won’t go door to door for guns, take note here....


24 posted on 05/23/2012 12:08:39 AM PDT by robertwalker62
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The raw milkers are using some questionable tactics — they’ bending the truth into propaganda. I find that insulting.

That being said, big government can go chug draino.

I have access to super fresh chicken eggs — still warm and covered with, er, stuff. They taste incredible compared to the anemic eggs at the super market. I have to assume I’m missing a similar treat with other market products — milk, meat, etc.

I can’t decide if the enemy is big government, or just a lot of really stupid shoppers. I guess it’s both.


25 posted on 05/23/2012 12:25:15 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve

It’s ok to drink raw milk as long as you had a rabies shot.


26 posted on 05/23/2012 12:34:45 AM PDT by Krankor
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
If it's the case that I don't own the milk, then it logically follows that I don't own the eggs, or the young my herds produce either. Nor do I apparently own the garden crops that my garden produces, nor the seeds with which to plant the next generation, nor do seed companies own the seeds their operations produce so they have no right to sell them

I see that you have this socialism thing figured out quite well.

27 posted on 05/23/2012 2:42:50 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (This space available--inquire within)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Vote obamey/holder...


28 posted on 05/23/2012 3:21:38 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It is standard protocol, in the case of infectious disease, to try to track down those who may be exposed to the disease. Since raw milk is a source of many pathogens, if addresses of customers are known, they are used to try to recover the tainted food before it is consumed. One of the largest challenges for a health department is to track down customers of raw milk when one of the cows in the herd becomes rabid... rabies is transmissible for at least 10 days before symptoms appear, and a LOT of people can be exposed in that time.

The milk at Organic Pastures was contaminated with Campylobacter. Like many of the pathogens that contaminate raw milk, this bacteria can be lethal. Organic Pastures has a history of flouting the law and having its products recalled (this was the 5th recall since 2006). I'm surprised it is still in business.

Dairies that sell raw milk lie to their customers about the safety of raw milk. Personally, I'd like to see them held financially liable for treatment of diseases caused by raw milk--maybe they'd be a little more willing to tell the truth to their customers.

29 posted on 05/23/2012 4:35:49 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
That really sucks. There are two dairies here in Idaho certified by the ISDA as Grade A, which are allowed to sell raw milk directly to the public.

I can go to downtown and buy it at the grocery store, but I prefer to cut out the middleman and buy it right from the dairy at the Capitol City Public Market.

The State of Idaho says "enjoy your raw milk!".
30 posted on 05/23/2012 6:05:14 AM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Get off my lawn..."


31 posted on 05/23/2012 6:08:55 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: savagesusie
Even worse. According to cows and politics, this is Russian communism.

"RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk."

32 posted on 05/23/2012 6:15:38 AM PDT by Can i say that here?
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The thugs and thugettes from the CDFA should be greeted at each home with loaded firearms, tar, feathers and a rail to ride on!


33 posted on 05/23/2012 6:26:53 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Krankor

Huh?


34 posted on 05/23/2012 6:32:51 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: exDemMom

How many people in the US die from drinking the milk of rabid cows in a decade?


35 posted on 05/23/2012 6:36:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Secret Agent Man

oh... the Bowman solution...

My tagline used to be
“Go Galt now, go Bowman later”


36 posted on 05/23/2012 6:40:54 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: yldstrk

I wonder if Heritage Defense would step in in cases like yours.

They are a legal team that fights social services when they overstep and attack families for being weird (ie, Christian).

http://www.heritagedefense.org


37 posted on 05/23/2012 6:43:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


38 posted on 05/23/2012 6:50:42 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Elsie

Udderly Elsie Pinger by Binger


39 posted on 05/23/2012 7:04:05 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where FReepers Convene in July.)
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To: Grams A

Home made cottage cheese is much tastier than the saw dust in the stores


40 posted on 05/23/2012 7:44:30 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: Krankor

It’s ok to drink raw milk as long as you had a rabies shot.


Where in the world did you get that idea..........It’s false.


41 posted on 05/23/2012 7:47:19 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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42 posted on 05/23/2012 8:30:46 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: MrB

Funny thing about your tagline now is that ‘Humanist’ used to be a person who ascribed to the notion that man is the highest/crowning-jewel of God’s creation.


43 posted on 05/23/2012 9:12:06 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

That is ironic about “humanism”. Humanists hate people. They love “humanity” in the abstract, but hate people.

I explained it to my kids this way - it has to do with where your source of truth comes from.

A theist recognizes that truth is reality as God sees it.
A humanist derives truth from human reason alone.


44 posted on 05/23/2012 9:38:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Well does the government admit that you own the cows? If not, then they can feed them and pay for their vet expenses! sarc/off


45 posted on 05/23/2012 12:12:45 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"I'll give you my MILK when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!"
46 posted on 05/23/2012 12:58:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

No. It’s the prettiest state in our country. They can’t have it. We have to recapture it. I propose it be busted down to territorial status until it can govern itself. Though that might not be a good precedent to set.


47 posted on 05/23/2012 12:59:12 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: Utah Binger
I'll look into this and get back atcha!



48 posted on 05/23/2012 1:01:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: exDemMom

I spent the first 18 years of my life drinking huge amounts of Alta-Dena Dairy raw mik and never got sick from it...don’t know if they’re still around but their milk tasted great, always delivered in the mornings to our door.

Ed


49 posted on 05/23/2012 1:02:31 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: 9YearLurker
How many people in the US die from drinking the milk of rabid cows in a decade?

Only a couple of people die per year of rabies in the US. For all I know, the handful whose exposure to rabies was not traced back to an animal bite got it from drinking raw milk of a rabid cow. It is SOP to track down people who are known to have consumed raw milk from rabid cows and administer the prophylaxis. This happens every few years.

There is little scientific literature on whether rabies virus has been definitively identified in rabid cow's milk. However, that means little: the most recent human survivor of rabies never did have a lab test that definitively demonstrated rabies; the lab tests were all inconclusive. She was diagnosed based on symptoms. The only way to be sure of finding rabies virus is by the same method that has been used for decades: examination of brain tissue collected post-mortem.

According to this article, in countries where there are far more rabies cases than in the US, transmission of rabies from mother to infant through breast milk has been documented. There is, therefore, no reason to think rabies couldn't be transmitted through raw cow milk. Pasteurization kills the rabies virus; in the countries where rabies runs rampant, milk is typically boiled before use, so rabies transmission through the consumption of raw milk has not been observed.

50 posted on 05/23/2012 4:54:37 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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