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Newspaper: 4 witnesses change stories in Trayvon Martin shooting
MSNBC ^ | May 22, 2012 | MSNBC Staff

Posted on 05/23/2012 8:44:15 AM PDT by caldera599

At least four key witnesses have changed their stories about what they saw the night George Zimmerman fatally shot Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., the Orlando Sentinel reported Tuesday. The report comes after state prosecutors released about half the evidence they have in their second-degree murder case against Zimmerman. The witnesses, known publicly only by numbers, first talked to Sanford police and later to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and state prosecutors Witness 2: A young woman from the Retreat at Twin Lakes community, where Martin, 17, was shot Feb. 26, first told investigators she saw two men running and a fist fight. She later said she only saw one person running and couldn’t distinguish much because she had removed her contact lenses. Witness 12: A young mother in the townhome community first said she saw two men on the ground but wasn’t sure who was on top; she later said Zimmerman was on top because she recognized his size based on news reports. Witness 13: A male neighbor first said Zimmerman, with a bloodied head, told him he had to shoot Martin because “he was beating up on me,” and to please call Zimmerman’s wife. He later went into detail and described Zimmerman’s tone right after the shooting as casual, like the shooting was “nothing.” Witness 6: A male neighbor, whose story change was initially reported Friday, first told police Martin was on top of Zimmerman and throwing down punches mixed martial arts style. He also first said Zimmerman was calling for help. The man later said he wasn’t sure who was yelling for help, and that Martin may have merely pinned Zimmerman to the ground. He was still sure, however, that Martin was on top.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; msnbc; trayvon; trayvonmartin; trial; witnesses; zimmerman; zimmermancase; zimmermanwitnesses
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I wonder how desperate the prosecution is to appease the Sharpton crowd.
1 posted on 05/23/2012 8:44:24 AM PDT by caldera599
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To: caldera599

Zimmerman will be sacrificed upon the altar of Obama and the myth of black oppression—he isn’t the first nor will he be the last. I fear for the nation.


2 posted on 05/23/2012 8:48:30 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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cross examination by a good defense attorney should be interesting to find out who convinced them to change their story...


3 posted on 05/23/2012 8:48:48 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: caldera599

The fix is in...


4 posted on 05/23/2012 8:49:32 AM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Obama Sucks!!!)
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Forget Sharpy the fat ass...they are trying to save their own asses....

Wait till Zimmerman files the lawsuit.....

5 posted on 05/23/2012 8:53:52 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: caldera599

On the main thread posted earlier, most FReepers see this as a good thing. Even if witnesses no longer support Zimmerman, the defense will eat them up.

“Are you wrong now, or were you wrong then?”

Their testimony in court will be useless. To the prosecution or the defense.


6 posted on 05/23/2012 8:54:09 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Vaquero

If you read the article carefully, the Lame Stream Media is the party which convinced the witnesses that they didn’t see what they thought they saw.

A good defense attorney will rip their new testimony to shreds. However, like I said earlier, the fix is in and it won’t matter what the truth is...

Cheers


7 posted on 05/23/2012 8:54:40 AM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Obama Sucks!!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
BTW.
 
That main thread - 86 replies so far...
 

Several George Zimmerman witnesses change their accounts

Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:52:27 AM · by rightwingintelligentsia · 86 replies
Orlando Sentinel ^ | May 22, 2012 | Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner

8 posted on 05/23/2012 8:56:51 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: DoctorBulldog

With luck Obozo will be gone and Holder also.


9 posted on 05/23/2012 8:57:28 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Responsibility2nd
“Are you wrong now, or were you wrong then?” Their testimony in court will be useless. To the prosecution or the defense.

Exactly. Those "witnesses" .. no matter into which directed they changed their accounts.. have put the dagger to the much of the prosecutors' case.

10 posted on 05/23/2012 8:58:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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“Are you wrong now, or were you wrong then?” Their testimony in court will be useless. To the prosecution or the defense.

Exactly. Those "witnesses" .. no matter into which directed they changed their accounts.. have put the dagger to the heart of much of the prosecutors' case.

11 posted on 05/23/2012 8:59:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: DoctorBulldog

mmm And the pictures of a younger, smaller TM are going to comeback to bite them. Can hear it now: “It was the big-older guy on top”

We DO relate size with age. Five foot under 100 lbs was carded until my weight increased in my forties.


12 posted on 05/23/2012 9:00:07 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya."..Is he lying now or was he lying then?)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

[[he isn’t the first nor will he be the last. I fear for the nation.]]

Apparently now, black folks can now say anythign they want abotu white folks, and the press will back them up fully- hell, they can even change their stories at any point, and it won’t make a bit of difference- aqs longt as whitey gets thwe shaft.

IF, and it’;s a bit IF, there is ANY justice left i nthis country- all of those inviovled in this mockery of a ‘trial’ will be prosecuted themselves and zimmerman will be set ‘free’ although his life is now over thanks to a prosecutor more intwerested in her career than she is in gettign to the actual truth!


13 posted on 05/23/2012 9:00:21 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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“I wonder how desperate the prosecution is to appease the Sharpton crowd. “

I was thinking more in terms of the blak panthers threatening these witnesses—or someone buying them off(think holder through a surrogate).


14 posted on 05/23/2012 9:00:37 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: caldera599
It appears the investigators wish to go down with Corey.

Subpoena the video recordings of the interviews, and see.

15 posted on 05/23/2012 9:00:37 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: caldera599

MSNBC is worried they’re losing momentum. Gotta keep those revenge beatings and killings going.


16 posted on 05/23/2012 9:00:37 AM PDT by skeeter
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[[cross examination by a good defense attorney should be interesting to find out who convinced them to change their story...]]

I’m sure the prosecutors are coaching the witnesses so that nothign will slip out in court that might reflect who coached them


17 posted on 05/23/2012 9:01:47 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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I don’t know about these other Freepers, but I always take my contact lenses out when I am witnessing a fight.


18 posted on 05/23/2012 9:03:24 AM PDT by Venturer
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Any witness whose testimony tends to favor Zimmerman testifies at the risk of his or her own life. I heard on the radio the testimony of the male witness who said Martin was administering an "MMA" beating. He did not sound the least doubtful or ambiguous. If his testimony is changing now, it may well be from a justified fear for his life. After all, there is a publicly made, unrescinded proclomation of a price on the head of Zimmerman. And NO local, state or federal law enforcement official has taken steps to arrest those who made this widely trumpeted death threat.
19 posted on 05/23/2012 9:03:34 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: caldera599

Investigators know that the initial testimony is usually the most complete and the most accurate. As time goes by, people start to have doubts about what the witnessed and also outside groups with agendas can exert influence.

Also the testimony has to jibe with the evidence for it to have weight. E.g., the evidence just doesn’t support that woman’s claim that it was Zimmerman on top of Martin.


20 posted on 05/23/2012 9:05:39 AM PDT by randita
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