Just keeping it real.
Cheers
Posted on 05/24/2012 8:20:21 AM PDT by butterdezillion
What the Hawaii AG forced Bennett to do to his request for verification:
1. Withdraw the whole form he submitted. Because the form had no special directions, HRS 338-14.3 would require the HDOH to verify the accurate, legally-probative facts, and HI can't do that for Obama because his birth record is late and amended - and thus not legally probative as per HRS 338-17.
2. Keep the request for verification that asked the HDOH to verify what is on Obama's birth record. The HDOH can do that without claiming that any of those CLAIMS on the BC are actuallly accurate or legally valid.
3. Change the request from asking for verification that what Obama posted online is a "true and accurate representation of the record on file" - to asking if the INFORMATION on what Obama posted matches what is on file. This is necessary because what Obama posted is an ABSTRACT or composite of what is typed (the incomplete BC) and what is "actually written down" (the affidavits to support the late and amended filing). And it lacks the notations that it was late and amended.
This is why they had to C&P the document. The stamps on the real thing (the non-forged version, if they have one, at the HDOh) would have filled the empty space toward the top of the BC, and the notation of what evidence was submitted to support the late filing and amendment were right in the area where the seal was supposed to go.
I'd post the article which shows the documentation, but I don't know how to post a PDF. And I'd try to get this as a blogger post that serves as a new article in the special category in News/Acivism as per the new policy, but I don't know how to do that either. I'll ask for help from the mods.
In the first comment I'll give a clickable link to the article showing the documentation.
I agree with you that they would still be open to charges of both fraud and misprision of fraud and forgery. They know Obama posted a forgery and passed it off as genuine, which is fraud. And if they have not reported it to law enforcement it is misprision of forgery and fraud, and by refusing to respond to a LEGITIMATE request form for verification of FACTS, they have acted specifically to defraud the American public.
If the Joe Arpaio Posse is able to expose the bad guys for all to see, Bennett will be revealed as an idiot. So he now has a vested interest in Sheriff Joe not finding anything.
It is a abominable practice.
What Hawaii has done is provide one more proof that what Obama and his administration release was fraudulent.
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/05/sheriff-joe-arpaio-on-obama.html
More than ashamed. They are now party to criminal conspiracy. JAIL TIME.
That’s the most innocent explanation for why he wants Sheriff Joe to stop the investigation. There could be more than that, too.
And it would be really good to find out exactly why Alvin Onaka is going along with this crap. Then again, maybe he is the one who told the HI AG this was all he was willing to verify and certify... Maybe he’s the one who is refusing to verify something that he legally can’t...
Exactly.
And that they can’t verify the actual legally-probative facts of Obama’s birth, because there aren’t any. What they’ve got is late and amended, and HRS 338-17 says the probative value shall be determined when presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body. HI CAN’T say what the true birth facts for Obama are. They can only say what the late, amended (and therefore legally non-valid) record CLAIMS the facts are - which is what the HI AG required Bennett’s request to ask for.
From your keyboard to God’s ears. I’m praying that the posse will soon be at a point where they can make arrests.
Of course, they’ll have to extradite the HI people in order to arrest them. Any bets as to whether Abercrombie will allow them to be extradited to AZ to face criminal charges?
And, still we have no official copy of his original birth certificate...
This gets smellier and smellier...
Cheers
“What Hawaii has done is provide one more proof that what Obama and his administration release was fraudulent.”
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An engine without a transmission.
The ball-less wonders on the Right continue to look the other way, if not outright enabling the RaceMarxist.
The Hawaiian criminal enterprise is still giving cover to the little barry bastard commie fraud. Did we expect something honest out of them? They’re dodging as afst as they can shuck and jive, but of course the media fifth column will present this as ‘obvious verification that little barry bastard commie is 100% truthful with the American sheeple, er, American People. The only way to end this criminal charade is to have a trial of this fraudulent high treason bastard and force HI to be honest with what they have ‘on file’. Of course that would open a can of worms dating back to even before Hawaii became a state, revealing their gifting anyone requesting a HI birth record (like Sun yat Sen) to be a HI ‘native’ regadless of where they were actually born or even when!
Harmonious Keyboards!!! Justice is the Lords responsibility. Meanwhile here on earth after years of Clinton and now Obama we pray for LEADERSHIP. Men and Women who will commit to challenge these scoundrels. We are a God-blessed Republic, founded on laws. Time to enforce them.
What’s sickening to me is realizing that they are playing the same ballgame as always: release the lie and let it travel the world twice before the truth can get its shoes tied.
I busted my butt to get this analysis done as quickly as I could. The gymnastics I had to do to get around whatever was being put onto my computer (and eventually two of my kids’ computers as well) so that my computer would freeze whenever I went onto my blog, and the transferring of the file to external hard drive and thumb drive to get it from one computer to another, getting to a computer that would read the font even though the fonts have all been used before, Wordpress claiming the file was too large, etc.... Sigh. What should have taken little time took forever.
But I busted my rear to get it done ASAP because the lie already had a big head start on me and megaphones way bigger than I’ll ever have.
Now we know what happened. And the news of what happened will die away as soon as this thread gets beyond the first page at Free Republic.
Sigh.
As soon as I posted this thread under News/ACtivism I reported it to a moderator, saying that I wanted it to go in the special category that’s just been established to allow Freepers to post their OWN news/analysis. I said it was posted on my blog only because I could post a PDF there but that I would happily take it off my blog and post it exclusively here at FR if somebody could help me get the HTML formatting right outside of a PDF so it’s readable. I asked the moderator to let me know what I should do.
Nothing. Absolutely no response. But I see that it’s not in the sidebar so it’s going to go to the graveyard.
I guess this must not matter, huh? It’s not important enough, that Hawaii has just shown us that they know full well that Obama’s records at the HDOH are not legally valid.
Sigh.
Yep, Seize. I love it that Big Joe made the trip to Hawaii for many reasons...the least of which being that with him going to the perps, none of them know what the others of them are saying to Joe. The perps don't need to worry about being found out...or need to explain an "absense" of themselves to each other as they would have to were they to fly OUT to meet with AZ LE.
They all get to stay put and wonder who has squeeled on whom.
Last one "in" is a rotten egg...in a pretty orange jumpsuit with pretty pink panties...wheels-up on a pretty LONG "away" trip to a pretty secure and secluded "retreat."
How do you know that ones not the fake?
I think I’m going to go relax in the bathtub, having done what I can for the moment. The lie has already traveled around the world twice, I got my shoes tied and put the truth out there with what tools I have available, and that’ll be the end of it unless I and others push to get this exposed.
The giants we face are such bigger loudmouths than we can ever be. They’ve got all the tools at their disposal. So many of us work so hard to find the truth and then once we’ve found it, we can’t get it out to the people who need to hear it and do something about it. It can be very discouraging.
Yesterday there were 2 seemingly-unrelated things that keep me going though. A FRiend sent a Freepmail thanking me for persisting. And our family devotions last night were about the disciples who had been out all night and caught nothing, and here Jesus comes along with those totally moronic command to put out the nets at a time when any real fisherman knows there wouldn’t be any fish. The disciples obeyed, not because they believed they would be successful or thought it was a smart thing to do but just because Jesus told them to.
And He brought the success.
We will all keep putting the net out there, even when it seems an utter waste of time. And the results will be up to God.
I’m praying He will find enough faithful people yet remaining in this land, to spare us as He would have spared Sodom and Gomorrah. I guess we’ll see.
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