Posted on 06/02/2012 9:32:12 AM PDT by WilliamIII
The revelation, along with photographic proof, that at least three coyote puppies were recently born in Golden Gate Park raises some interesting questions about the future of the park - namely, how much time before roving packs of yipping wild predators drive humans and their decidedly un-wily pets out?
That, at least, is what the alarmists are asking, and the answer, according to the experts, is "never." The presence of coyotes in the city is good for the ecosystem, city officials and wildlife experts said, even if a few feral cats go missing.
"It is important that people recognize that coyotes are part of our ecosystem and that they have intrinsic value and ecological value," said Camilla Fox, the executive director of Project Coyote, a Larkspur nonprofit that consults with cities, ranchers and other groups on ways to live with coyotes without resorting to bullets, traps and poison.
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I always figured it was Islam.
And they're so darned cute. It's all fun and games until the rabies...
I think you’ll find that San Franciscans will turn out to be proof that there are some people that coyotes refuse to eat.
The reintroduction of wolves into the NorthWest wasn’t done because Ma and Pa missed seeing the wolves. They were reintroduced to drive the number of ungulates (deer, elk, moose) down so low that the Democrats could start screaming about stopping hunting. Democrats - they don’t mind guns as long as they get to decide who the guns are pointed at.
It looks as if it shares some ancestors with the Anatolian.
You’re singing to the choir. I grew up in the High Desert, and one thing I learned was to NOT engage wild animals under any circumstances. I am NOT a fool. I can pick off a hare @ 100 yards.
The Secret Service might visit you for that post.
I was under the impression that they were reintroduced out of some wistful desire to restore the "balance' of nature.
The eastern coyotes have NO dog in them.
They are coyote/Canadian wolf hybrids.
http://www.easterncoyoteresearch.com/
http://easterncoyoteresearch.com/downloads/GeneticsOfEasternCoywolfFinalInPrint.pdf
They are freaking -wolves-.
We had them until the DNR realized their folly and “unprotected” them after they slaughtered newborn livestock and ignored the deer population they were *brought here* to “control”.
You can shoot them to your heart’s content, now.
This big Euro/ScH lines beast ain't skeered of nuthin' or nobody
*But* if our "coyotes", who are as big as GSDs and run in packs of a dozen or more get hold of him, his "courage" isn't gonna count for squat.
So 'mommy' watches over him with a 30.30 and a wicked aim.
Is this your first Dobermann, by chance?
Couldn’t agree more Carry-Okie. Too many folks around here with too much faith in their particular breeds and not enough experience with coyotes. I live in the high desert, the extreme edge of town. I’ve seen dogs badly handled by just a couple of coyotes, and these are trained and aggressive cowdogs. I know families whose German Shepperds and other large breeds have just “disappeared”. It is not an uncommon sight around here to spy a flatbed loaded down with dead coyotes because the state still pays a bounty on them. We’ve got a pack of 8 that will occasionally run down the arroyo behind our arena at night, setting off every dog in the neighborhood. They’re looking for rabbits mostly but won’t pass up an unattended dog. Long before dawn, they are back up the mountainside....
Not only did they want to kill hunting, but the domestic cattle business as well. It's also about the Senate, in that if they can substitute urban bureaucrats for the people who work the land, they can take over these rural states with relatively little effort. So think of it as a feeding frenzy of interests, with the land and its people as the loser.
Run down; snap neck.
Fast.
Efficient.
Merciless.
Much easier to obtain than Anatolians, too.
The hillbillies did a right fine job of running off our “coyotes” once it was legalized.
[and before it was, too...SSS]
:)
I always wanted to visit the Acme store. Dynamite by the case, parachutes, rocket powered roller skates, giant slingshots, giant canons. Phenomenal, speedy delivery.
Wonder if they have a catalog?
I can’t find them on the Internet.
P> Problem SolvedTheir -are- idiots who breed captive coyotes to dogs and sell them.
The odds of a wild coyote/dog mix are slim to none.
The most pressing argument against is the coyote’s appetite for dogs.
The biological argument is that males coyotes participate heavily in the rearing of their pups, an act which the female coyote depends upon and is totally absent in the nature of the domestic dog.
Tests done on alleged ‘wild coydogs’ have shown no domestic dog DNA.
There is some small chance that a domestically created coydog could escape and be mistaken for a true, wild bred mix...unless real coyotes eat it, first.
[coyotes do not observe “professional courtesy” as a rule]
The threat of rabies, however, is real and valid.
Strychnine baits were the most effective method at that time.
I'm not against having the beasts around as long as they stick to cleaning up carcasses, killing rabbits, and the like. For years, that's how things remained around here, primarily because there is plenty of carrying capacity in the land and the nearest creek is about 500m away. Lately, they've been getting a bit brazen for my taste. Unfortunately, I need a different weapon. The 30-06 is too big and the .22 too small. I'm thinking of a crossbow. What I resent is having to lug the .357 around just to take care of my dog while I'm out working the property. Gotta have the dog because of the mountain lions. So it goes.
The simple rule on predators is that I don't want too many of them and I do want them fearing to come anywhere near me or mine. Wolves are quite another matter; they don't know about limits.
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