Posted on 06/11/2012 3:07:58 PM PDT by Pinkbell
It may come as a surprise to some of her fans, but Carrie Underwood has announced her support for gay marriage.
The devoutly Christian "Jesus, Take the Wheel" country singer spoke out to The Independent on why she believes marriage should be legal for all.
"As a married person myself, I don't know what it's like to be told I can't marry somebody I love, and want to marry," Underwood, 29, explained. "I can't imagine how that must feel. I definitely think we should all have the right to love, and love publicly, the people that we want to love."
The American Idol winner was raised in a Baptist church, but now attends a non-denominational church with her hockey player husband, Mike Fisher.
"Our church is gay friendly," she said. "Above all, God wanted us to love others. It's not about setting rules, or [saying] 'everyone has to be like me'. No. We're all different. That's what makes us special. We have to love each other and get on with each other. It's not up to me to judge anybody."
And the Christian star from Oklahoma doesn't agree with "people who use the Bible for hate."
"That's not how I would want myself as a Christian to be represented."
(Excerpt) Read more at usmagazine.com ...
The problem with that line of thinking Norm is that it just isn't true. I'm often surprised at the number of people who think the Dixie Chicks simply ruined their careers, and conservative boycotts taught them a lesson. The truth is that after Maines made her remarks in March, 2003, in London. The Chicks released a live album in late 2003 which went gold, which they followed with a double platinum album in 2006. Couple that with 3 successful post-2003 tours, which while they might have second billing, still earned each member millions, and you have ignorant people who think they're ruined.
Yeah, they slipped from ultra-super-duper stardom to plane old super stardom, or a worst case scenario (from the vp of the chicks) just simple stardom. Some success those boycotts eh.
I wouldn't even expect the same success with Underwood. She's prettier, hipper, and has more crossover appeal. If she's isn't millions richer in 5 years I'll admit I was wrong, but what do want to bet me that I won't have to?
You are right to a point, but you are splitting hares.
At the height of their popularity, they mouthed off and what happened? They got benched for a while. That benching resulted inn that reduction you mentioned from top to 2nd tier. Gold records should have been multi platnum. The multi platnums should have been far bigger. And they should NEVER have been opening acts. EVER.
Their ‘success’ following the great Maines exploration into liberal patriotism cost them tens of millions of dollars. Their opening act rebirth meant people were not going there to see them, but the openers. And their sales came in large part from liberals hoping to prove our side wrong.
That’s all true as well.
But most importantly of all in this, they forever have a ‘*’ attached to their names. They are forever to be known as the band whose short-round little lead singer DESTROYED the career they could have had, potentially legendary depending on what critic/insider you talk to and left them lessened overall. They have never regained the spark they had. Their music does not have the best in the business lining up to associate themselves with the DC name anymore. The T-shirt sales and other PR items are hard to move in comparison to their pre spazout numbers and most importantly, their main outlet, Country Radio TO THIS DAY gets hate mail whenever they get airplay.
I stand by my statement in light all of the above, They destroyed their career. Sure they still have one. Sure they make money. But Natalie isn’t getting the invites and interviews she was. She isn’t the bell of the ball dispite efforts at rehab. and she is a whole lot less richer than she would be had she not opened her big fat America hating mouth.
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Their opening act rebirth meant people were not going there to see them, but the...”HEADLINERS”
Will make u a progressive and politically correct
Daft stupid girl
They are streaming in here pell mell to escape the crap they created where they come from
My home is for sale...a nice crib with land.....that is all i get....progressive music folks from either coasts
Sad
This ain't Roy Acuffs row anymore
Fembots and Coastal refugees own country music now and they despise the music and the folks who buy it.....they live to ridicule their customers ala CMT
That just needed to be repeated.
Key comments:
Does she ever struggle, I ask, to square her religion with the progressive, gay-friendly mores of the music industry? “Our church is gay-friendly,” she responds, seeming suddenly energised. “Above all, God wanted us to love others. It's not about setting rules, or [saying] ‘everyone has to be like me’. No. We're all different. That's what makes us special. We have to love each other and get on with each other.” Then she offers a totally unexpected, unequivocal endorsement of gay marriage. “As a married person myself, I don't know what it's like to be told I can't marry somebody I love, and want to marry. I can't imagine how that must feel. I definitely think we should all have the right to love, and love publicly, the people that we want to love.”
With that, Carrie Underwood gets up to leave. She's been sweet, and helpful, and far nicer that I had any right to expect, so I maybe shouldn't have been be all that surprised to hear conservative America's favourite pop star stand up, loud and proud, for the rights of homosexuals. At the Albert Hall, they'll no doubt love her for it. But I can't help but wonder how it'll go down back home in her native Oklahoma.
Okay, she apparently attends a homosexual-friendly nondenominational church in Nashville. A quick internet search found that she was previously a member of First Free Will Baptist Church in Checotah, Oklahoma. (Reference here: http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Carrie-Underwood-Biography/56D51E8199BA5EC1482570370029B799 )
It's not clear to me where she attends now but it should not be too hard to track that information down for someone “on the ground” in Nashville. A large Presbyterian congregation in West Virginia has a “Carrie Underwood” as a church member in a leadership role, but that website has been taken down and I'm guessing that's the wrong church.
My guess is to take Underwood at face value and assume that she is attending a liberal church; if so, we need to find that church's details and clearly expose it as as liberal left-wing church to her fans.
If not, and if this is actually a moderate evangelical church, we need to take aggressive action to make sure the pastor and church leaders don't get away with covering up gross public sin of a woman who is probably their most prominent member.
Remember the Rev. Jeremiah Wright situation. Where someone chooses to attend church often tells us much about them.
Someone who is a conservative in the country music media also needs to call First Free Will Baptist Church in Underwood's hometown and get some comments from the pastor and church leaders on what they think about homosexuality and Underwood's new views. Given her denominational background I am quite sure Underwood was raised in a conservative context and she didn't get her views from her home church and her home church pastor will have a lot to say — but I've been surprised before.
*Snort* [giggles and giggles] Ya got me again!
And thanks for pinging me to the thread from whence I stole that graphic.
I meant your music.You did great.:)
Zapp Brannigan has been obliterated. There is no posting history left of him, so I didn’t do a double zot or a zot post for him at all.
[astonished] It’s as if he never existed. Even my memory of him is fading... Zapp...? Who?
Tugging on Superman’s cape: Never a good idea. ;-)
However, I'm pretty sure it's the wrong church. Since it is a Presbyterian Church (USA) congregation, the “gay friendly” label may fit, though obviously the “nondenominational” label does not — the church is on the roll of members of the PCUSA’s Presbytery of West Virginia. There are exceptions, of course; not everybody in the PCUSA is liberal and I know nothing about this local church beyond what I'm reading that's public on the internet.
“5. Fellowship Ministry Team: Provides for regular and special fellowship times for the congregation through: coffee fellowship on Sunday mornings, social activities such as senior members trips, receptions for new members and special guests; monthly covered-dish dinners, Lenten Breakfast, receptions following special services and childcare for various church activities. Carrie Underwood and Linda Brewster are this year’s Co-Chairs.”
I'm posting this here mostly because the PC(USA) church website shows signs of possibly being “scrubbed” recently and in the remote possibility that this really is Carrie Underwood's church, I want to get the information out on Free Republic so it can't be taken down and made inaccessible.
The pastor, Rev. Chris Perkins, is a former lawyer, former Congressman, and former member of the Kentucky state legislature. Some people will recognize him as a Democratic Congressman who went to jail for 21 months in connection with his role in the House bad check banking scandal from several decades ago:
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2005/jan/08/fallen_kentucky_congressman/
Here's his church profile on his background:
Rev. Chris Perkins
Pastor
Bachelor of Arts – Davidson College; Juris Doctor – Brandeis School of Law, University of Louisville; Master of Divinity – Louisville Presbyterian Seminary;
Master of Theology – Louisville Presbyterian Seminary.
Chris has had a number of high points in his life. He has owned and managed a thoroughbred farm, hosted a regional TV talk show for 12 years, served as a member of the Kentucky General Assembly (where he was voted “Orator of the House” by the Capitol press corp”), served as a member of the United States Congress for 5 terms (where he served on the Education and Labor, Public Works and Science Space and Technology committees), been a trial attorney, played in a bluegrass band, served on the Permanent Judicial Commission for the Synod of Lincoln Trails, been a member of the Committee on Preparation for Ministry for the Presbytery of Southeast Illinois, moderated the sessions of 3 small rural churches in Illinois and served as a pastor to 3 Presbyterian congregations. He has been at Enslow Park since May of 2009. Chris is married to Dr. Carol (Bunny) Perkins. Between them they have been blessed with 5 children, 8 grandchildren and 3 dogs who (most times) bring the Perkins great joy. There’s a line in Psalm 32 which says that “steadfast love surrounds those who trust in the Lord.” The Perkins family contends that it certainly has surrounded them beyond any and all expectation.
Yeah, you’re born, life’s a bitch, and then you die.
Free Republic is a great place to grow some rhino hide because you have to take a lot of flak almost no matter what you say.
My favorite things are no good deed’s going unpunished and my post’s being completely misunderstood by someone who wants nothing better than to question my ancestry and announce to the world just exactly how idiotic I am.
It’s great. Seriesly, you can really get toughened up.
I like your stuff. And you. As for your “13-year old like sense of humor,” being serious all the time gives you wrinkles.
Read up on what the Founders thought about homosexuals.
Seriously, the Founders had laws about it drafted up.
Homosexuality is not a Conservative value.
Go google Folsom Street Fair with safe search off and tell me what is Conservative about it.
“The word of God written by men might have a few errors.”
So you’re saying that Sodom and Gomorrah were handed flowers and boxes of chocolates?
That Leviticus says the opposite of “Do not lay with a man as one lays with a woman”?
Is that what you are claiming?
Might want to do some more reading there pal.
Very nice graphic, my friend. The caption? Hmmm...?
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Agreed. For what it's worth, we never really know the race of the poster at the other keyboard unless we have met them offline. I sometimes think of that when certain issues are raised, when a thoughtless remark can hurt or offend.
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