Posted on 06/13/2012 3:41:24 PM PDT by kingattax
The United States Army is debating whether to admit women to Ranger School, its elite training program for young combat leaders.
Proponents argue this is to remove a final impediment to the careers of Army women. But the move would erode the unique Ranger ethos and culture—not to mention the program's rigorous physical requirements—harming its core mission of cultivating leaders willing to sacrifice everything for our nation.
The Army's 75th Ranger Regiment traces its roots back to World War II, when it won acclaim for penetrating deep behind Japanese lines. Founded in 1950, Ranger School teaches combat soldiers small-unit tactics and leadership under extreme duress. It pushes men harder than any other program in the Army's curriculum.
Competition to attend the course is fierce, with about 4,000 men eligible to attend each year. Only about half graduate. Of those, only 20% make it through without having to retake various phases.
For decades, completion of Ranger School has been the best indicator for determining which young men can handle the enormous responsibility of combat leadership
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
“The demonstrated cross-wind landing of a Cessna 152 is 12kts. That’s not to say it could land at a CW of 15 or more.”
“I’ll put up my flying ability against yours any day, any time.”
Except I HAVE landed such aircraft in crosswinds exceeding 15kts. So much for your bravado.
“maybe kicking the furniture or a cat or puppy or two ....”
Nope, just you.
Clearly a man who knows his airplanes. ;-)
Giggity, good for you. Question is: why were you up in such a day in a 152?
The issue is the undeniable difference in bone structure, muscle development and hormone content between a 120 lb. male and a 120 lb. female.
It isn't a case of the military brass weeding out pansies, because I don't view any woman who would be motivated enough to want to attend Ranger School as a pansy in any sense of the word.
It is a case of military brass allowing a less capable human being for the mission into the Rangers ahead of a less capable human being for the sake of something that has nothing whatsoever to do with whether it is good for the unit's capabilities or not.
Going up is optional. Coming down is mandatory.Sometimes conditions change.
I just said - why don’t people read???? - there have been cases where pictures and captions just didn’t match up. Okay??????? The media is wrong so many times in their stories like you wouldn’t believe. So you’re the type to believe everything the first time without checking it out??? Like maybe that Trayvon Martin case???
Maybe you could.
Can you come up with pictures of women being the shot-up guy just like that?
Would you want to?
If you were actually a pilot, you would know that sometimes "forecast" and "actual" are different.
The military isn't keeping a full military of men and then padding it with some females as 'bonus' manpower, it is removing men, to replace them weaker, smaller versions of men, females. That amounts to a loss of capabilities.
What do you fly in the Marines?
As it’s been said. The hardest part of flying is landing.
How about requiring every woman fighting in a war zone to have PMS?
I don’t fly in the Marines. My dad did. I fly a King Air B200 or a Cessna Grand Caravan C208.
Child, you’ve amused me quite a bit on this thread with your braggadocio, bringing back memories of past Freepers such as DITHF and classygreeneyedblond. You wouldn’t know them, they’re before your time, but darn if you’re not cut from the same cloth.
But it stopped being fun and giggles with your response to DuncanWaring’s post of First Sgt. Brad Kasal being helped by his comrades.
Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:11:46 PM · 336 of 380
SkyDancer to DuncanWaring
First off blood turns very dark very fast especially on clothing like that. Secondly I’ve never seen a military handgun that shiny. They’re using Berettas which are very dark. Thirdly, he wouldn’t have that gun in his hand wrapped around someone carrying him They would have taken the pistol from him first off. As for a war movie? Pick one, any one. I understand too, that men are very delusional when it comes up to logic.
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To: DuncanWaring
There are 85 pictures of that on the internet. A site call Wargames has it. http://www.wargameyau.net/index.php
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354 posted on Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:53:30 PM by SkyDancer
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Quite telling that you attack him with your worldly knowledge of wound trauma and the effects of harsh sunlight on metal weapons and the attributing the photo to a movie or game screen cap. Might the sum of your “fieldcraft” have been gleaned only from those two sources?
Allow me to do your homework for you.
Here’s a sharper image of the very real photograph:
http://www.spt7566.net/usmc/1stsgt_kasal.jpg
Copyright: Lucian Read
Caption:
Still holding his 9mm Beretta, a seriously injured First Sgt. Brad Kasal is helped
from a Fallujah house on Nov. 13, 2004, after killing several Iraqi insurgents and
with his own body shielding a fellow Marine from a grenade blast (Photo by Lucian Read/WorldPictureNews)
And should you care to acquire a copy for your ret. USMC father for Father’s Day, a copy of the First Sgt. Brad Kasal photo can be purchased from the photographer at his web site:
http://lucianread.photoshelter.com/image/I00003uF.gu_sBps
You might want to read up the photographer,
Lucien Read’s account of his embedded time with USMC in Haditha.
http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0607/in-haditha.html
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/_one_finger_salute.jpeg.jpg
The First Sgt’s story is so compelling that I’m reposting it for you.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-11-09-medals-fallujah_x.htm
On Nov. 13, 2004, five days into a major Marine onslaught on the city, Iraqi insurgents developed a plan to lure as many Marines as possible into a house and kill them.
Their target were Marines with the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines.
Then 1st. Sgt. Brad Kasal, now 40, was leading a column of men when he saw a wounded Marine stumble out of a building. Others were trapped inside, together with insurgents.
Kasal and Sgt. RJ Mitchell, now 26, gathered a few men each and stormed the house. Inside they found a room surrounded by multiple doorways and rooms. Marines and Iraqi fighters were holed in various rooms, firing at each other. Fighters rained rifle fire and grenades from the stairwell and a skylight beyond.
“It was basically a rescue operation that went bad,” says Mitchell, a trained medic who was shot through the arm in fighting the day before.
Mitchell and Kasal split up, each entering a different, smaller room and each getting hit by fragments from an enemy grenade as they moved through the house. Mitchell entered a small room where he found a critically wounded Marine and started putting pressure on his femoral artery in his thigh.
Kasal shot it out with a fighter next door, dropping him. Then “All hell broke loose” said Kasal, as rifle fire and grenades rained down the stairwell.
Kasal was shot several times and a grenade blast raked his lower legs with shrapnel. He crawled into the room, pushing the fighter he had shot out of the way.
Behind him was Pfc. Alex Nicoll, who was caught in the hallway firefight. Kasal crawled back into the hallway and dragged Nicoll into the room. He was shot again, for the seventh time, this time in the buttocks.
Both Kasal and Nicoll were bleeding badly from leg wounds. Between them they only had two pressure dressings. Kasal used one dressing to treat Nicoll’s leg, which was nearly severed by rifle fire, and was trying to pull the gear off Nicoll’s chest when he heard something hit the ground to his right. A grenade.
“I pushed Nicoll over and rolled on top of him and covered him up,” Kasal says.
“The grenade went off. It rang my doorbell. The blast hit me in the leg, back of the arms, buttocks. The flack jacket took a lot of the blast.”
That’s when Mitchell ran in, his weapon shot to bits. He found Kasal still conscious, holding a 9 mm pistol on the door. Kasal told Mitchell to treat Nicoll first.
According to Mitchell’s citation, he was treating Nicoll when he saw the insurgent lying in the room move for a weapon on the floor. Mitchell killed him with his combat knife.
For the next 45 minutes Mitchell helped direct his own rescue. Two Marines came in and helped carry Kasal out, still holding the 9 mm to cover them for safety.
“There were a couple of times I thought it looked bleak,” Kasal says. “I thought I’d bleed to death, that’s why I rolled over Nicoll to save him from that grenade.”
A doctor later told Kasal he should have died. He lost about 60% of his blood.
Nicoll lost his leg and now rooms with Mitchell, Mitchell’s wife and their child in Yuma, Az.
Kasal and Mitchell each received the Navy Cross.
Anyway that’s the point at which you stopped being amusing. I’ll leave it to you to find the bona fides of the people you’ve insulted and dismissed lightly. Many are or have been officers and gentlemen, so much so that they’ve let you skate. I am neither.
As for you sneaking up Force Recon Marine and “painting his ass”, carrying “just the equipment necessary for your personal needs”, I can’t see that you’d have a prayer. You’d be weighted down by so many colostomy bags carrying your shit, there’d be no room for anything else on your harness.
And as long as you’re printing threads out for your GFs send along a copy to your daddy and your Reserve USMC DI’s. Might be a good thing you’re down under.
What do you do in the Marine Reserves then?
Which of those models is a jet?
Post 36
I’m a pilot. I fly jets.
Post 68
I’m now an FAA certified pilot. I fly bizjets and now work in Australia as a pilot for the Royal Australian Flying Doctors.
Post 83
I came home, became an FAA certified pilot flying jets. I now work in Australia flying planes into the outback where any Marine pilot would crap his or her pants landing on the strips I do.
I was just answering the guy’s braggadocio.
WTF?
Which guy would that be?
It was fucking stupid.
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