Posted on 06/18/2012 2:17:21 PM PDT by Zakeet
A lawyer for President Barack Obama argued today in Florida that a lawsuit claiming his client "is not eligible to appear on the November ballot because he is not a natural born citizen, should be dismissed on the grounds that the Democrat Party has not yet nominated a candidate.
In Tallahasse, Florida, Attorney Mark Herron, representing President Obama, told Leon County, Florida Circuit Judge Terry Lewis that the January 31, 2012 Florida Presidential Preference Primary did not result in nomination or election and that federal law precludes this court from determining whether a candidate for the office of President of the United States is qualified under Article Two Section Five of the United States Constitution.
There has been no nomination to office, there has been no election to office Mr. Herron told Judge Lewis.
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Judge Lewis asked the plaintiffs lawyer if I give you leave to amend can you amend that he was born somewhere outside of the jurisdiction of the United States? to which the reply was yes.
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I made a note that you (plaintiff) would like to amend, Judge Lewis added a moment later. I would not have done that if I thought there was nothing you could amend.
If Judge Lewis rules against President Obamas motion to dismiss, an amendment expanding the complaint beyond the issue of Constitutional eligibility to appear on Floridas ballot to accusations that President Obamas birthplace was outside the United States could open the door to discovery and submission of evidence of alleged forgery of the Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth posted to the White House website.
(Excerpt) Read more at communities.washingtontimes.com ...
This lawsuit should be dismissed because the Democraps haven't yet nominated me as a candidate ... and I haven't yet been elected to office ... and that means no discovery should be allowed concerning the validity of my forged birth certificate.
Everyone forgets these questions were brought up all throughout the fall of 08.
This time the fools who went along with it see the consequences of their indifference: a foreigner handed ultimate power over us who is using that power without restraint.
I will be ecstatic to be wrong but I do not see any Federal court stopping this imperial impostor.
The fix has been in for years and the ruling elite are completely untouchable.
The American public have been fed such a phony bill of goods that they no longer know why this country used to be great and what put us on a path where so many people were so ignorant so as to elect this communist piece of trash.
Thanks commie union scum public school teachers you have done your job as defined in the communist manifesto.
Is he running for the job as president ? If not then no problem
I would LOVE to see something come of this challenge but I just read that Rick Scott sent an atty to fight for dismisal. He’s really beginning to piss me off, both with this and the Zimmerman case.
I believe this is correct. The Constitution does not provide any mechanism for judicial review of a candidate's qualifications.
The original mechanism was the Electoral College, which was supposed to actually decide who became president. When the EC instantly deteriorated into a nullity there was no mechanism in place to replace it.
Any state could require a candidate to provide appropriate documentation to be on the ballot (it would only take one state), but I believe none has. In four years. A very sad commentary on our political system.
Is he impersonator a candidate? He's been collecting LOTS of campaign funds - sounds like fraud from the con man.
Washington Times article.
impersonating
This lawsuit should be dismissed because the Democraps haven’t yet nominated me as a candidate
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = WTF?
This ‘double speak’ is great. I thought Clinton was the master with his ‘Depends what is is’ but these guys are really good.
A little deja-vu though, I had said that since G Bush had been accused of ‘stealing’ the election from algore, that he actually (at least in libspeak) wasn’t Pres for the 4 yrs term, thereby he should have been eligible to run in 2008 since he hadn’t been elected in 2000 (at least in libspeak).
The natural born citizen challenge could rule out Rubio as VP so the GOP establishment is busily circling the wagons.
I’m curious what “Federal law” Obama’s lawyers think precludes states from determing who can and can’t be on their state ballots. I’m pretty sure other states have kept candidates off ballots before for not meeting the Constitutional eligibility requirements, maybe even in Florida. Second, there are 27 Supreme Court justics who have ruled on a definition of natural-born citizen that precludes Obama from being eligible for office. Any state is bound to uphold those rulings.
30 years from now, Obama will write his memoirs and he’ll admit the whole thing was a forgery from the beginning. He is laughing all the way to the bank, having put one over on America, and constitutionalists like us in particular.
“Same tactic as the 2008 election. Kick the can until after the election, claim no harm so no prior restraint.”
By coincidence, I watched the Marx Brothers’ classic Duck Soup again last Saturday, and got to enjoy one of my favorite scenes:
President Firefly (Groucho) opens the meeting to “old business” and someone says “we must discuss the tariff,” to which Groucho replies “no, that’s new business. Then Grocuho says “no more old business? OK, on to new business.” The same guy stands up again and says “now about that tariff” and Groucho says “sorry, that’s old business already.”
So Obama imitates not just Karl Marx, but Groucho Marx as well.
If the sonofabitch gets four more years, the writing of the Hisotry of these days will not be done in a free society so the profile will be whatever the commies and globalist want it to be. You may be sure however, that these same bastards are about to end little barry abstard’s games in their own way because he has become a liability to them not the puppet asset they selected over the Hillary puppet. His blackness is at best questionable, so his use of racism to protect his crminal behavior has evaporated for the November selections.
that and the fact that there aren’t that many R’s that love the Constitution either. They’re all the same. Makes me sick.
It’ll be soon than 30 years. Moochelle’s boob belt budget will need a boost in about 5 years.
Is he impersonator a candidate? He’s been collecting LOTS of campaign funds - sounds like fraud from the con man.
I am sure there are enough Obama donors in Florida to establish the fact that he is running for POTUS. Or else he has committed wire fraud...can get him on RICO statutes.
I am sure we have all noticed that in these cases, they never face the question head on.
There is always a twist.
They never answer the real question of elegibility, they beat around the bush, they obfuscate, they always find a twist to get out of answering the real question—AND THE COURTS, AND THE MEDIA, LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT
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