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Those Fast and Furious Documents Must be Dynamite (Obama Has Painted Himself Into a Corner)
Powerline ^ | June 20. 2012 | http://www.powerlineblPaul irengoff

Posted on 06/20/2012 6:41:59 PM PDT by lbryce

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81 posted on 06/20/2012 10:20:28 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way of Trinity, NM)
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To: lbryce

I have only one meager comment to make.

How on earth did America ever get from Reagan to this, in just the span of one lifetime?


82 posted on 06/20/2012 10:28:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: lbryce
UPDATE: Some have speculated that Obama’s intervention means that the president himself has something to hide.

The alternative is that Obama knew nothing of F&F — that it was a rogue operation cooked up by an incompetent or worse AG — in which case there would have been ample room under the bus for said AG Eric Holder.

83 posted on 06/20/2012 10:29:47 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: DainBramage
Obama to Sarah Brady :"I want you to know we are working on gun control under the radar."

I promise you he knew all about F&F.

Of course Obama knew about F&F from Day One. We don't have to have his physical fingerprints on the documents to know that. Even the lefties know that he's in this up to his elbows.

84 posted on 06/20/2012 10:51:47 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: kiryandil
(John) Lott relates his interactions with Obama in his new book, co-authored with Americans for Tax Reform’s Grover Norquist, “Debacle: Obama’s War on Jobs and Growth and What We can Do Now to Regain Our Future.”

“The book relates a couple out of the dozen-and-a-half conversations that I had with him (Obama),” Lott told The Daily Caller. ”But they were all very short, cut off by Obama turning his back on me and walking away.”

In one of the encounters with Obama that John Lott recounts in his book, Obama see him and says, "Oh, you're the gun guy. I don't believe that people should own guns.", then abruptly turns and walks away.

85 posted on 06/20/2012 11:12:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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86 posted on 06/20/2012 11:46:46 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: MtnClimber; All
What is the difference from Hitler, Stalin, Mao (which 0bammunists all seem to love), Pol Pot, Castro, Chavez, etc?

Actually, none.

<> In thinking more about F&F I've come up with another person he's eerily similar to--Charles Manson. On its face that may seem unlikely; however, if one compares Obama's role in the F&F murders with Manson's role in the Tate/LaBianca murders the remarkable similarity becomes obvious.

Manson really didn't care much one way or the other about Sharon Tate and the LaBiancas. To him their deaths were simply going to be essential stepping stones on the way to provoking a race war and the "helter skelter" he thought would inevitably follow, enabling him and his flowers to achieve power. He was properly convicted of murder because he masterminded those killings, regardless of whether they were done for the pure pleasure of doing them or to achieve the higher movie of "helter skelter."

It's the same way with Obama. He, Holder, and their accomplices concocted F&F to create irresistible political pressure to destroy the 2d Amendment, just as Manson planed his killing spree to achieve "helter skelter." Much like Manson, as large a number of murders and as much mayhem as possible were necessary for F&F to achieve its illicit objective. After all, if those weapons were walked to gun clubs and private citizens for legitimate self-defense, there would have been no mayhem and none of the political pressure for gun confiscation that Obama, Holder and their accomplices wanted. Obama, Holder, and their accomplices needed, intended, and wanted those murders for the same basic kind of reason Manson needed, intended, and wanted his murders, in each case to achieve a higher political objective. Thus, Obama, Holder, and their accomplices are no better than Manson and his were and should suffer the same fate as the Manson family because they've done the same kind of thing.

87 posted on 06/21/2012 6:26:39 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Tupelo
There is no way the court will rule on any challenge before the election. Nobama is banking on getting reelected, then dealing with Fast & Furious. I figure that January 25 or so, someone will bring up F&F, then Nobama will simply state that everything had been answered before the election and only an idiot or racist would bother questioning him at that point. Case Closed!

That sounds vaguely familiar. Kinda reminds me of the Constitutional eligibility question...

Before the primaries we made the case.
They said it wasn't the right time because he wasn't actually his party's candidate.

Before the main election we made the case.
They said it wasn't the right time because he wasn't actually the president elect.

Before the electoral college vote we made the case.
They said it wasn't the right time because he hadn't actually been elected until the electoral college said so.

Before the congress accepted the electoral college vote we made the case.
They said it wasn't the right time because he hadn't actually been approved until the congress accepted the electoral college vote.

Before was sworn in we made the case.
They said it wasn't the right time because he hadn't actually violated the constitution until he became president.

Now that he is in the White House, they say it's too late, you should have said something sooner!


88 posted on 06/21/2012 8:22:11 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1248 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: Windflier
How on earth did America ever get from Reagan to this, in just the span of one lifetime?

We've been fighting defense.

You don't win fighting defense against a persistent enemy.

89 posted on 06/21/2012 8:28:06 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1248 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: libstripper

Excellent analysis.

One can only hope that deliberate and malicious preplanned mass murder rises to the level of “high crimes and misdemeanors”...


90 posted on 06/21/2012 8:34:29 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1248 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: libstripper

Excellent analysis.

One can only hope that deliberate and malicious preplanned mass murder rises to the level of “high crimes and misdemeanors”...


91 posted on 06/21/2012 8:34:56 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1248 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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