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Boehner Takes Hard Line on Holder Contempt Vote
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Posted on 06/22/2012 12:57:06 AM PDT by tsowellfan

Speaker John Boehner demanded Thursday that the Obama administration give in and turn over documents related to a botched gun-tracking operation, insisting that's the only way to stop a House vote to hold the attorney general in contempt.

Boehner took a hard line against the Obama administration and Attorney General Eric Holder despite a willingness by House Republicans and Holder to negotiate a settlement before the matter becomes a constitutional crisis. The president has invoked executive privilege, a legal principle used to avoid disclosure of internal presidential documents.

While a confrontation between the legislative and executive branches of government would be an academic dispute to most voters, Boehner on Thursday injected a human element into the dispute over documents related to Operation Fast and Furious. He said the family of slain U.S. Border Agent Brian Terry deserved answers about the guns that killed him.

Two guns that were allowed to "walk" from Arizona to Mexico in the failed effort to track weapons were found near Terry after he was killed.

"The Terry family deserves answers about why their son was killed as a result of an operation run by the United States government," Boehner told his weekly news conference...

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KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; terry; zapata
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“If the House votes contempt, a civil suit can be filed in DC Federal Court, asked to expedite, and a court order issued to produce the documents. Shouldn’t take too long, if they bring their A game.”

Please sign the petition for the Terry family.

http://honorbrianterry.com/get-involved/petition

Contact phone numbers and addresses for congress criters listed below. Need to get the word out and encourage everyone to Holder to the Fire!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2895739/posts

1 posted on 06/22/2012 12:57:15 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan
If the House votes contempt, a civil suit can be filed in DC Federal Court, asked to expedite...

There lies the rub. The court works for Holder. To "expedite" likely means within the next 5 years!

2 posted on 06/22/2012 1:08:36 AM PDT by TexasRedeye
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To: tsowellfan
Boehner.....portrait of a vagina.

He will fold at the first push.....don't hold yer breath

Now Issa....balls no doubt

Why do they say “eye-suh”?

The Issa family is a prominent Maronite family in Jamaica and the Caymans and there they call themselves “i as in the word it...a short i-suh”

3 posted on 06/22/2012 1:24:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (i eat more chicken than any man ever seen....)
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To: tsowellfan

Well now isn’t this jut exactly what we all knew was going to happen?

BATF Agents in Arizona lost track of several hundred guns. Hundreds of people are dead. And now the Committee and the Head Honcho responsible for it are willing to negotiate a deal as the Head Honcho’s attack parrot squawks about how unfair it is that Florida was trying to suppress voter turnout among people who are voting illegally in the first place.

The Terry family deserves one hell of a lot more than some idiot explanations and apologies for this. What they deserve is Prison Stripes for the people directly responsible for it rather than negotiating a deal to avoid even a Citation for Contempt of a Congress that continually proves itself unworthy of even That currently debased appellation.

You try a stunt like this on your own and see how long it takes you to be looking at the a** end of life in prison or perhaps even on death row.

If those gun sales had been interdicted at the point of sale the way they are for a whole bunch of Americans BY this pathetic excuse for a Justice System for any Number of specious “ineligible to purchase or possess” ginned up, crap excuses, Mr Terry and the others would still be alive.

But no, BATF makes up their own rules as they see fit, screw up Royally and get a couple hundred people killed, and Congress is willing to Negotiate a kid glove settlement for them, because They’re the experts.

Boehner took a hard line to avoid a Constitutional Crisis. WTF?

What Constitutional Crisis? Boehner and his Deal Brokers themselves?

Boehner and his Deal only perpetuates the problem and guarantees it will happen again.

This would be an Academic Dispute to most voters? Like I said, Try pulling a stunt like this yourself and find out how Fast and Furious it becomes on the front pages of Every newspaper in America with those same voters seeing Nothing Academic about it and Nothing being in Dispute about you, as a non-government party, being a Monster who should be dealt with in the absolute Strictest and most Draconian of terms the Law allows.

There is Nothing Academic and Nothing to Dispute about this. 200 people are dead. The Law was broken. We can call it being side-stepped. We can call it an allowable prerogative of Holder’s Agents attempting to stem a bigger problem.

But They took it on themselves to pull this stunt without even being Capable of pulling it off. And after Boehner and his Deal Negotiators have green lighted it by offering up explanations and apologies in lieu of preventing its future re-occurrence so that an MSM they already know despises them, won’t berate them for playing politics, you can take it To The Bank that it Will happen again, and again, and again.


4 posted on 06/22/2012 1:49:09 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: TexasRedeye
The Court works for Roberts. The prosecutors work for Holder.

-PJ

5 posted on 06/22/2012 2:36:32 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: TexasRedeye
The Court works for Roberts. The prosecutors work for Holder.

-PJ

6 posted on 06/22/2012 2:36:32 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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I believe this will go to the Federal District Court for the District of Columbia.

It all depends on THIS judge.

7 posted on 06/22/2012 2:59:21 AM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
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Holy Cow! Just last night I was commenting on just how ironic it would be if that Judge were Roy Lamberth. He is a no nonsense kinda guy and this could very well get extremely interesting.


8 posted on 06/22/2012 3:52:17 AM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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Holy Cow! Just last night I was commenting on just how ironic it would be if that Judge were Roy Lamberth. He is a no nonsense kinda guy and this could very well get extremely interesting.

Damn Right and he is fast

9 posted on 06/22/2012 3:54:14 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: tsowellfan

One interesting aspect to this.

Is the conservative position that the walked guns killed Agent Terry? Or, did a primal cartel thug kill Agent Terry?

How does one resolve this vis-a-vis “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.”

Need to be careful we don’t argue ourselves into more gun control here, which is of course what Obeyme was trying to achieve here.


10 posted on 06/22/2012 4:05:18 AM PDT by IamConservative (Well done is better than well said. - Ben Franklin)
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How does one resolve this vis-a-vis “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.”

In this case the “people” would have not had the guns used to “kill people”, if they hadn’t been provided to them by Odumba$$ and Steadman. The intent was always to put the guns in the hands of those “people” who would use them to commit crimes, in order to justify additional gun control laws. Behold the perversion of the liberal mind...


11 posted on 06/22/2012 4:13:39 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: IamConservative

The conservative position is that the Obama administration essentially put that gun, illegally, in the hands of that cartel member, in this country illegally, who used it to Kill Agent Terry.

So there in itself, you have two incredible wrongs that resulted in the death of one of our own. I call it a two-fer.


12 posted on 06/22/2012 4:14:53 AM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: wardaddy

despite all the rumors and innuendo put out by our enemies ( the mainstream media ) the record clearly shows that boner has been in Issa’s corner all along on this one... do not believe the rumors, look at the record, then take a deep breath and relax...

There is no way, no how, that even a rino like boner will let history slip though his fingers....and a president complicit in murder is indeed history


13 posted on 06/22/2012 4:21:47 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: IamConservative

The conservative position is that the Obama administration gave our enemies tools to kill Americans. That is treason.


14 posted on 06/22/2012 4:52:21 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Wizdum
It all depends on THIS judge.

Are you saying that Lamberth will have some automatic role in this affair? I agree that the case will go to the Federal District Court as a civil suit but the Lamberth connection is not obvious.

BTW, Lamberth is an OK guy IMHO.

15 posted on 06/22/2012 4:56:00 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: InterceptPoint
Lamberth will assign this case to himself, it's that important. Lamberth doesn't care about political ideology. He cares about the law.

Regardless of how he rules, and I believe that will be in favor of Congress, this will be appealed up the line all the way to the Supremes.

And we already know precedent from that court.

16 posted on 06/22/2012 5:11:54 AM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
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To: TexasRedeye

Breaking!! Boehner takes hard line on SOMETHING!!


17 posted on 06/22/2012 5:14:15 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Wizdum
Lamberth will assign this case to himself, it's that important.

If so, that would be very good news.

18 posted on 06/22/2012 5:28:10 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: IamConservative

I don’t see this as guns killing people I see this as an out of control government so much so that it’s actually responsible for the lives of two border agents and hundreds of Mexicans and who knows how many more Americans may have been killed by our government’s actions.


19 posted on 06/22/2012 5:40:43 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: IamConservative

No doubt, had the guns not ‘walked’, the cartels would still be acquiring guns elsewhere, and poor Agent Terry might still be dead. Nevertheless, the FACT is that the murder weapon came from the US government, and that is a heinous thing to have happen, and it needs to be thoroughly investigated because it represents either immense incompetence, or disregard for the law, or both.


20 posted on 06/22/2012 5:47:55 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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