Guidelines on Hatred and the Religion Forum

Religion Moderator | June 22, 2012 | Religion Moderator

[metmom]

BipolarBob - ping to post 199 where you were being discussed without the courtesy of a courtesy ping.

[metmom]

BB’s comment was that it isn’t important to be 100% correct in one’s doctrine. He said that in posts 148 & 206.

You can be 100% correct in doctrine and theology and have a heart of stone and be disobedient to what God wants of you.

There ARE some basics that need to be correct. Teaching a Jesus who is not the one of the Bible, is one of them. Not any old Jesus can save, it MUST be the one of the Bible. And salvation is by faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross, but much of the doctrinal stuff is not as important as living the life God wants you to and loving God with your whole heart and mind and soul and strength, and loving your neighbor as yourself.

There is a difference between saying that doctrine doesn’t matter and saying that being 100% correct on your doctrine doesn’t really matter.

[Salvation]

The difference between righteous anger and rabid anger.

[Elsie]

I don’t see anyone here in his mold.

So THAT's why we don't get along!

[Elsie]

...but we pass by the injured person on the side of the road.

I hardly ever hear that the LAW almost REQUIRED some of those described to pass them by.

[Elsie]

His sacrifice makes our entry ticket into Heaven possible.

Not if you're a MORMON and you MURDER someone.

Then only YOUR blood being shed will get you into heaven.

(That's why UTAH has a FIRING SQUAD for an execution of a murderer.)

[Elsie]

First time I’ve posted in a while and after reading much of this thread, don’t really see a reason to resume.

But you did.

[Elsie]

Go with GOD?

[Elsie]

Read “The Crucible” then we’ll talk.

Bishop Fulton J. Sheen quotes:

 

 

"A Plea For Intolerance" (1931)

 

Tolerance is an attitude of reasoned patience toward evil ... a forbearance that restrains us from showing anger or inflicting punishment.

 Tolerance applies only to persons ... never to truth.

 

America, it is said, is suffering from intolerance — it is not.

It is suffering from tolerance.

Tolerance of right and wrong, truth and error, virtue and evil, Christ and chaos.

Our country is not nearly so overrun with the bigoted as it is overrun with the broadminded.

 

 

 

Too many people get credit for being good, when they are only being passive.

They are too often praised for being broadminded when they are so broadminded they can never make up their minds about anything.

As quoted in Seven Words to the Cross (1979) by Ellsworth Kalas, page 93.

 

 

 

[Elsie]

But still; anger...

[count-your-change]

Not sure who you mean by “we”, but I try to stay away from the personal no matter my private thoughts.

[Elsie]

WE are the folks who tend to discuss politics and/or religion.

[BipolarBob]

Thank you. You are the only one who “gets it”. Whether that is intentional on their part or not, I do not know.

[Notwithstanding]

One wonders if your own goofy insistence that doctrine is not important is for real.

For, after all, God so loved the world that He sent His son, Jesus, that whomsoever believes in Him might not perish but instead have eternal life - but if doctrine was so unimportant that it really doesn’t matter what doctrines are preached to us and what doctrines we live by, then we could just believe in Gaia or Baal and God’s love and Jesus sacrifice would still cover us.

Your orignal point was drivel, and yet you have doubled down on it.

God invites us to believe in His truth - and the content of that DOES matter, which is why He gives us His Word and a Church to preserve and pass on that Word.

For many, it is more comfortable to pretend doctrine does not matter, because then they are free to ignore doctrines that are inconvenient or difficult. It is sinister to encourage such an attitude by downplaying doctrine as you have done.

[Notwithstanding]

Your point is totally different than the point orignally made by BB.

BB stated (as pointed out by others already) that doctrine does not matter.

I have rightly noted BB’s gross error.

You have charitably reimagined BB’s point by re-writing it so that it has little in common with his original point.

That is kind of you, but BB is a big boy and should FReep for himself. He could easily retract his error and note that he oversimplified things. Dumbing Jesus down does not bring anyone salvation.

And I expect BB can tune in without me adding his name to the address box.

[Notwithstanding]

MM,

Didn’t anyone ever tell that it is discourteous to highlight what you find to be the discourtesy of another? (I am right now being discourteous to you)

If someone forgets to ping somebody, then ping them and leave it at that. You don’t need to get knickertwisted and pant and hiss about how terrible it was that somebody forgot to include someone else. You can mothball the high dudgeon.

Thanks.

[BipolarBob]

You did not answer my questions on post #229. One wonders if your goofy insistence that doctrine is supreme is for real. Did Jesus, before he offered paradise to the thief on the cross, ask him what his doctrine was? There are hundreds of denominations with different doctrines. Are any of them correct? None of them? Most are mutually exclusive on points. I think doctrine rules your life more than faith, by your comments, and that is a mistake.