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To: Hojczyk

Question - I’ve often heard that there were similar programs under the Bush Administration but it appears that no guns actually got to Mexico under those programs - perhaps they were effective/controlled programs to sting the buyers. Do you or anyone posting know if this is true?


18 posted on 06/22/2012 2:25:56 PM PDT by unique1
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To: unique1

Here’s a start for you:
http://news.investors.com/article/615871/201206221823/fast-and-furious-different-than-wide-receiver.htm?p=2


30 posted on 06/22/2012 10:55:37 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: unique1
Question - I’ve often heard that there were similar programs under the Bush Administration but it appears that no guns actually got to Mexico under those programs - perhaps they were effective/controlled programs to sting the buyers. Do you or anyone posting know if this is true?
According to Rush, the Bush Administration projects to which F & F has tendentiously been compared differed in two very minor respects:
  1. the Bush Administration coordinated its program with the Mexican government whereas the Obama Administration didn't, and

  2. the weapons in the Bush Administration “bugged” the weapons it used to actively try to track where the guns went, and interdict their use in lawless activities south of the border. Whereas the Obama Administration actively prevented anyone from tracking the F & F guns.
Other than that, not too much difference between the two . . .

</sarcasm>
The Bush Administration discontinued its program when the bad guys learned how to defeat the tracking devices the Feds had secreted in the guns. The Obama Adminstration didn’t even try to track theirs.
IOW, the Bushies were trying something tricky, and it didn’t work so they quit. The Obamites were trying something tricky, too - but the joke was on the American - and Mexican - people.
Speaking of the Mexicans who were affected by F & F weapons, Mexicans, in Mexico, don’t matter to liberals. Let one cross into Arizona, tho, and suddenly they are “hispanics,” and their rights are paramount. So instead of referring to the people killed in Mexico by F&F weapons as “Mexicans" we should emphasize their humanity calling them “hispanics."

37 posted on 06/23/2012 6:55:59 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: unique1
More links in this post about Wide Receiver.
40 posted on 06/23/2012 8:13:59 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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