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Supreme Court Rewrites ObamaCare; Rules Individual Mandate Is Permissible Tax
The New American ^ | June 28 2012 | Joe Wolverton, II

Posted on 06/28/2012 5:34:54 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ

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To: TMA62
It’s my understanding that Roberts is Catholic, not Mormon.

One thing is clear, Roberts is a traitor!

61 posted on 06/29/2012 12:22:40 AM PDT by RJL (There's no greed like the greed of a liberal politician buying votes with your money.)
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To: JMKirnan
At its high point, the penalty will be 2.5% of income. A person earning $70,000 per year who does not have insurance will pay $1750 - far below the cost of insurance today.

So, this is what will happen:

1. Many employers will find that their penalties for failing to provide insurance will cost far less than their insurance premiums. They will therefore cancel their insurance and dump their employees on the exchanges.

2. Their employees, particularly young employees, realizing that they will be able to buy "insurance" if they get sick and also realizing that the penalty will cost less than insurance, will opt for the penalty.

3. The number of Americans with insurance will actually decline and the inusred pool will be sicker.

4. Premiums will therefore rise from their already high levels.

5. More companies will throw their employees onto the exchanges.

6. Even more people will opt to pay the penalty.

7. Pretty much the only people with insurance will be the really sick (who will have purchased it just after becoming really sick) and those high income earners whose premiums are less than 2.5% of their income, the number of whom which will become progressivly smaller as the insured pool becomes progressivley smaller and sicker.

8. Seniors will become really unhappy with the changes to Medicare Advantage plans.

9. Hospitals will charge more for their services as a smaller percentage of their ER patients have insurance.

10. Premiums will increase again to account for the higher hospital costs.

11. The government will use all of these problems as a reason to institute national health care financed by yet another tax increase on "the rich," which by then will be defined as pretty much anyone with a job paying more than $100,000 per year.

62 posted on 06/29/2012 2:25:03 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Wrong. Reid took a House bill that had no chance of passing in the Senate, lopped off all of the actual text in that House-originated bill, added all of the ObamaCare text and passed it.

Thus, technically, the ObabaCare bill, at least the HR bill number, originated in the House.

It is a corrupt way to do it, but that, in a very small nutshell, is Harry Reid.


63 posted on 06/29/2012 3:12:08 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Selective memory.

Republican presidents’ selections have been a totally mixed bag.

Bush 41 also gave us CLARENCE THOMAS.

Bush 43 also gave us ALITO.

Ronald Reagan gave us SCALIA, but also gave us Sandra Day O’Connor and Anthony Swinger Kennedy (right this time, but often not, and never reliable).


64 posted on 06/29/2012 7:29:53 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Bellagio

Technically, the bill did originate in the House. Originally, it was some kind of bill for military homeownership or something. But when the Senate got the bill, they pulled all of that out and used it as an empty “shell” in order to get around the Constitution. Then they put all of the ObamaCare stuff in and passed it.


65 posted on 06/29/2012 8:22:31 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ScottfromNJ

So why don’t we take control of congress and the Presidency and force everyone to purchase:

A firearm for each adult member of the family that can legally own a firearm
365 days worth of food for each member of the family
A portable generator
etc


66 posted on 06/29/2012 9:30:03 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: txrangerette
Yes, I mentioned Alito in a different thread on what might have happened if Miers hadn't withdrawn her nomination.

-PJ

67 posted on 06/29/2012 9:31:46 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: scooby321

“I am joining Obama in blaming Bush Now.”

Absolutely. The moron’s “compassionate conservatism” has all but destroyed the Republican party and gave us Obama.

Bush signed Campaign Finance Reform into law with his trademark “inbred idiot” smirk, saying SCOTUS would strike it down. Which they upheld.

Now Bush gave us (along with porous borders), the gift of Roberts, who upheld Marxism as the law of the land. THANK YOU GEORGE BUSH!!!

If 9/11 hadn’t happened to distract him, there is no telling what else George W. Bush would have done to ruin my country.


68 posted on 06/29/2012 10:25:40 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Anyone who thinks we can sit home, then survive four more years of Obama, is a damned fool.)
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To: ScottfromNJ

“It’s Constitutional, Bitches!” No thanks to Roberts.


69 posted on 06/29/2012 10:28:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: ScottfromNJ

Taxing a failure to comply means the Feds OWN YOU.

Like any slavemaster, they can DIRECT YOUR EVERY BEHAVIOR or lock you up.

I don’t care what “justification” for that force is conjured up.

SLAVERY is someone else having perfect rights to direct your every behavior.

Roberts approved that.


70 posted on 06/29/2012 11:01:49 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Individual Liberty, R.I.P, 6/28/2012)
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To: luvbach1
"If so, it begs the question: how did they get to Roberts? Does Anyone think he was threatened? And if he was looking to his legacy by being "apolitical," if Obamanationcare is implemented he may not be happy with his position in history."

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/nancy-pelosi-health-care-law-supreme-court-obamacare.php

El Dictator Obozo to John the traitor, "Hey Justice John, Nancy is really great in bed isn't she, and her pictures of you in bed with her are ready to go on You Tube if you don't vote for us!"

A question for all of us: "When and how did Pelosi know that her side would win?"

71 posted on 06/29/2012 11:17:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: taxcontrol
So why don’t we take control of congress and the Presidency and force everyone to purchase:
A firearm for each adult member of the family that can legally own a firearm

They did that once. The Militia Act of 1792

What did they require of The People they enrolled in the Militia by statute?

That every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball; or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch, and powder-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a pound of powder; and shall appear so armed, accoutred and provided, when called out to exercise or into service, except, that when called out on company days to exercise only, he may appear without a knapsack.

This is nothing new.

72 posted on 06/29/2012 11:29:16 AM PDT by superloser
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