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Drudge tips Condi Rice for Mitt Romney veep pick. But is she too moderate and too tied to Bush?
The Telegraph ^ | 7/13/12 | Tim Stanley

Posted on 07/13/2012 1:43:09 AM PDT by markomalley

On Thursday night, Mitt Romney sent out an email to supporters promising news on his Vice President selection “sometime soon.” A few hours later, the Drudge Report announced that Condi Rice – the former Secretary of State under George W Bush – was “near the top of the list.” I quote: “It was Condi who received two standing ovations at Romney's Utah retreat a few weeks ago, and everyone left with her name on their lips.” That’s it. But from small acorns are great headlines made.

Condi Rice would be a risky veep pick for Romney. It’s true that she’s experienced, respected and liked by establishment Republicans. But she has never won an election and she is associated with George W Bush – a man mildly less popular than arthritis. Her selection would widely be regarded as a desperate bid to reach out to both women and African-American voters, while probably not making an impact upon either.

Worst of all, Rice might split the base. There was some speculation in 2008 that she voted for Obama, and she can be best described as a libertarian on the moral issues that matter to religious conservatives. On abortion: “I don't like the government involved in these really hard moral decisions … While I don't think the country is ready for legislation to overturn Roe v. Wade, certainly I cannot imagine why one would be in favor of partial-birth abortion. I also can't imagine why one would take these decisions out of the hands of the family.” On gay marriage: “I don't ever want anybody to be denied rights within our country.” Selecting a woman with these views would only confirm the suspicion that Mitt is himself a Massachusetts moderate. He doesn’t need that kind of bad publicity.

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Too moderate (a/k/a liberal): absolutely.
1 posted on 07/13/2012 1:43:13 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Keep pushing GOPe...Keep pushing! And don’t you DARE come crying for money or help!


2 posted on 07/13/2012 2:02:17 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: markomalley

This has “head fake” written all over it.. remember just last week the buzz was all about Rob Portman? Some people are spun up about the speculation, so it`s apparently working.

Romney won`t pick Rice because she`s too intertwined with the Bush years. Gov Susana Martinez would be a great choice if he can persuade her to come aboard. Failing that.... there`s always Col Allen West. Either one of them would make a great VP.


3 posted on 07/13/2012 2:20:05 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: markomalley
Yes, funny how language gets bastardized.
Now, a rabidly liberal RINO has been redefined as a "moderate" when, in reality, Condi Rice is Colin Powell in drag.
4 posted on 07/13/2012 2:25:40 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: stormhill

There was an article in the WSJ back in April, by Bret Stephens, entitled, “Anyone but Condi”. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304050304577375851104232184.html

Here are two exerpts, “[Rice] was on the wrong side of some of the administration’s biggest internal policy fights. She had a tendency to flip-flop when it came to the president’s core priorities and her political misjudgment more than once cost Mr. Bush dearly. She was a muddler of differences at the national security council. Her tenure at State was notable mainly for the degree to which the bureaucracy ran her, not the other way around.”

..Still it must be said: If the presumptive Republican nominee is going to choose his running mate with an eye toward governing the country and not just winning the election, he can do better than Ms. Rice. Choosing her would simply be evidence that he doesn’t have much faith in his own November chances.


5 posted on 07/13/2012 2:45:42 AM PDT by Eva
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To: markomalley

I had my comment all ready, but you pre-empted me.

So let’s see here. Most likely a Lesbo (lightly closeted) abortion supporter, internationalist, despised by most Blacks as a sellout, baggage from Bush.

But hey - there’s an upside. Sort of.

She ~WILL~ kick Biden’s ass in a debate. But then so could most third graders. Maybe even Megan McCain.


6 posted on 07/13/2012 2:56:38 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: markomalley

I am sort of lost here with where “we’re” supposed to be, and I admit I am a little gun-shy about posting on political candidates since there was a LOT I liked about R. P. (I will not say his name as it got me suspended once.) Can you fill me in on why Condi is so liberal? Frankly, I thought Mitt was the most un-Conservative, un-Constitutional of the bunch, and now it seems... Am I right? We’re supposed to rally behind Romney? So - here’s Condoleeza Rice, who we DO know is a frickin’ GENIUS, and was basically George Bush’s best friend in Washington. I also know that there are a lot of untruths and out-of-context citings of all the candidates (R.P. being a cardinal example.) I also happen to believe that the abortion issue is the most important issue facing our country. So - if you think Condi is just a disaster, please tell me why and offer some proof, because I only know her as a brilliant, worldly, and well-respected conservative woman.


7 posted on 07/13/2012 2:56:56 AM PDT by golux
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To: shibumi

They don’t need a pro-abortion VP; Romney doesn’t scare abortion advocates (though they might want a more assertive voice). They also don’t need a black candidate; there is no swing in that vote (for the most part). A white or Hispanic female will do.

Sad what we’ve been reduced to in this day and age of tokenism and division...


8 posted on 07/13/2012 3:03:16 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: golux
So - if you think Condi is just a disaster, please tell me why and offer some proof, because I only know her as a brilliant, worldly, and well-respected conservative woman.

OK, here goes:

  1. She is a pro-abort
  2. She is pro civil unions
  3. She buys into the AGW fraud
  4. She is pro nation building (as an RP supporter, you ought to be very, very opposed to that)
  5. She is in favor of amnesty for illegals (provided they speak English)
  6. She is in favor of affirmative action (not just nondiscrimination)

Source: http://www.ontheissues.org/Condoleezza_Rice.htm

Bottom line: she is what the MSM would call a "moderate" -- and what FReepers (so far as I know) call a flaming liberal.

9 posted on 07/13/2012 3:07:01 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: Eva

This is an enlightening article, thank you.

Boy I sure find it disgusting that a conservative black person could be labeled by ANYONE a “sell-out.”

I wish it were a THOMAS SOWELL / CONDI RICE ticket. Talk about utterly kicking ass in any debate with anyone anywhere and making the “you’re racist” crowd STFU forever.


10 posted on 07/13/2012 3:09:02 AM PDT by golux
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To: markomalley
Gotcha.

Found this:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/12/drudge-condi-rice-near-the-top-of-romneys-vp-shortlist/

in which we find this excerpt:

"Problem two: Last I checked, Condi’s pro-choice. Admittedly, as you’ll see below, her position comes with lots of caveats, but so what? That won’t spare Romney a headache with social conservatives that he could have avoided by picking a veep from the 98 percent or so of prominent Republican officials who are pro-life. Besides, as John McCormack noted a few days ago, Romney’s already pledged not to choose a pro-choicer. Even if Condi’s had a Romney-esque “awakening” on this issue in later life and has now become pro-life, that only means that instead of having one candidate on the ticket whose reversal on abortion seems mighty opportunistic, we’ll have two."


Well, you know I myself had a major life reversal on Abortion, but that was when I was 23 or so, after heavy liberal indoctrination in HS and college.
11 posted on 07/13/2012 3:16:08 AM PDT by golux
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To: golux
“here’s Condoleeza Rice, who we DO know is a frickin’ GENIUS”

I like Condi as a person, but don't think she's a good choice, for a variety of reasons. That said, although she is articulate, why do you say she is a genius? We, as a society, tend to throw these designations around without any data. Obama, with his missing university transcripts, is a perfect example. Yes, Condi was an academic, but that means little. Some of the least creative and unimpressive people one can find are academics - and often at ‘name’ institutions. That counts for essentially nothing. I'm not saying she isn't very bright. I just don't know that calling her (or anyone in government for that matter) a genius is justified.

12 posted on 07/13/2012 3:16:24 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: stormhill

Condo is the repub Hellary.


13 posted on 07/13/2012 3:18:35 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Well, I don’t know her personally, but I have a very close acquaintance who worked with her at State and held her in exceptionally high regard. Yes, I know State is a bastion of lefties, but my close acquaintance isn’t one of them.


14 posted on 07/13/2012 3:32:08 AM PDT by golux
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To: markomalley

RIDICULOUS!!!

Sure way to loose an election. She’s a lib and connected to one of the dumbest Klans in politics. The damn Bushes put this moron in the White House.


15 posted on 07/13/2012 3:36:06 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: markomalley

I’m very much against the idea of Rice for VP. I think it would be a disaster and a sure winner for Obama.

But this scares me, like maybe Mitt will do it:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romney-rice_648182.html


16 posted on 07/13/2012 3:44:41 AM PDT by samtheman (The Trillion Dollar ObamaCareTax definitely is a tax; just ask the US Supreme Court.)
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To: ScottinVA
This has “head fake” written all over it..
I wish I had your confidence. My fear is that Mitt is going to go for the race/gender card and sell out everything to be able to play that.
17 posted on 07/13/2012 3:46:54 AM PDT by samtheman (The Trillion Dollar ObamaCareTax definitely is a tax; just ask the US Supreme Court.)
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To: markomalley

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says she’s proud of the election of Barack Obama.
Source: CNN | Added November 5, 2008
more CNN video

In an emotional interview, Condi proclaims that “this is a special time for America”, the American people are “wise in wanting change”, and effuses that the barrier of color is no longer an issue in American poltics.

All indications are that SHE VOTED FOR OBAMA!!!


18 posted on 07/13/2012 3:48:27 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: markomalley

One more thought on this:

I read yesterday that despite Mitt’s recent fund-raising success, Obama is still ahead in building his mountain of campaign cash.

Word of warning to the Romney people: Choose Condi and that’s the end of conservative money for you. I personally haven’t given a penny to the Romney campaign but I’m definitely planning to as we move into the general election, barring something that will block me from doing so. Choosing Condi will definitely block me from doing so.

Cash or Condi. Pick one.


19 posted on 07/13/2012 3:49:12 AM PDT by samtheman (The Trillion Dollar ObamaCareTax definitely is a tax; just ask the US Supreme Court.)
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To: Mountain Mary

Condi has too much ties to Bush for my tastes, but if she shaved those ties, I could consider her when I go to the poll.


20 posted on 07/13/2012 3:51:13 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

I would still vote for Romney/Rice, but there is no way I would work for it or campaign for it. I consider a Romney/Rice ticket a sure loser so I’m not flushing any money down the toilet.

Romney picks Rice and he can eat shit and die, as far as I’m concerned, even though I will still vote for him over the Kenyan Commie.


21 posted on 07/13/2012 3:59:26 AM PDT by samtheman (The Trillion Dollar ObamaCareTax definitely is a tax; just ask the US Supreme Court.)
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To: samtheman
"My fear is that Mitt is going to go for the race/gender card and sell out everything to be able to play that."

Yup. Tactical blunder. The campaign will be reduced to defending the Bush years. I respect and admire Rice, but if she's selected, that will be the tripwire comfirming it's all...
Kabuki
22 posted on 07/13/2012 4:01:18 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: markomalley

Drudge poll has her at 65% yes, 35% no. Surprising.


23 posted on 07/13/2012 4:07:02 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: markomalley

Bad choice. Not too moderate, too liberal.


24 posted on 07/13/2012 4:08:43 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: markomalley

Too moderate (a/k/a liberal): absolutely.

Boy let’s just make it REALLY hard to differentiate the different parties. It is bad enough that Romney and Obama share the same beliefs but not throw Rice in the mix and it really won’t matter who wins as they all are the same. Our country is a disaster and it is because of both parties. Vote Virgil Goode.


25 posted on 07/13/2012 4:08:43 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: shibumi

Most likely a Lesbo (lightly closeted)

I agree with all you said except this. I am not sure that we can or should say this type of thing. FIrst of all I like the fact that she would keep her mouth shut if she is and the last thing I want is rumors going around about her if it isn’t true.


26 posted on 07/13/2012 4:11:51 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: markomalley

So Rice is just like Romney! Not a good pick.


27 posted on 07/13/2012 4:12:05 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: markomalley

I think the headline is misleading. No one has said that this was the final selection. In fact, most believe this is a head fake.


28 posted on 07/13/2012 4:20:54 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: markomalley

Mr. RomneyCARE seeks someone who voted for Obama
and attacked Gov. Palin (while VP candidate) for HIM.


29 posted on 07/13/2012 4:33:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: markomalley
She is a dyed-in-the-wool pro-abort.

No thanks.

30 posted on 07/13/2012 4:35:09 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: ScottinVA

She will get the same Media attention as Sarah Palin.


31 posted on 07/13/2012 4:36:18 AM PDT by Internet Walnut
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To: markomalley

Fodder for Obama who is still blaming Bush for everything.

With Rice on the GOP ticket, Obama would green-light running against Bush [policies] again. And he would tout his foreign affairs accomplishments — he got Osama bin Laden; she didn’t.

==

Surely, Team Romney isn’t that stupid.


32 posted on 07/13/2012 4:40:25 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: markomalley
Are you romney supporters feeling the love yet? Are you happy and giddy and flying high these days? Go read rice's pre 2008 election interviews... read her words carefully and then come back and tell me that she is the best person to represent the GOP and act as backup for the A Team.

At least colon powell admitted that he voted for obama... when you think about it... romney/rice... figures.

LLS

33 posted on 07/13/2012 4:41:03 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: iopscusa
No. Condi Rice is a go-along, get-along, politically correct apologist bureaucrat. She has never displayed the fortitude capable of casting a pro-Constitution tie-breaking U.S. Senate vote.

A potential commander-in-chief of the greatest military force in the world, she is not

Her potential Supreme Court selections would be drawn from the only circle she runs with - academic muttin-heads who would view their appointment to the high court as an opportunity to control the masses.

I have no confidence in Mitt Romney, let alone Ms. Rice, as capable of keeping a thumb on the 'new world order' or the hate-America's Constitution commies in the NSA, DOD, DOJ, Homeland Security, FBI, IRS, and both Houses of Congress.

If that political chameleon from the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts doesn't pick a rock solid Constitutional conservative as his VP, he will not get my vote, and I will urge everyone I know to take a pass on the GOP presidential candidates.

So far, he and his neophyte blockhead handlers are doing everything they can to give this election to the pretender-in-chief - which actually may be the 'screw America' FED's game plan.

34 posted on 07/13/2012 4:41:30 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Fiat voluntas tua)
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To: Internet Walnut
"She will get the same Media attention as Sarah Palin."

....but not the same 'Main Street' attention Governor Palin got.

35 posted on 07/13/2012 4:50:17 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Fiat voluntas tua)
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To: markomalley

It’s a FEINT! Not a leak.

Nice way to get the press off Bain!!!!!!!!


36 posted on 07/13/2012 4:53:36 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: samtheman

Rice wouldn’t be able to dent into the black vote. She brings only a few liberal Republicans still balking that Romney isn’t liberal enough to the table. A really poor choice; not even Laura Bush would favor her selection.


37 posted on 07/13/2012 4:57:03 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: markomalley

For goodness sake; NO.


38 posted on 07/13/2012 4:59:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: markomalley

I saw her in a tough interview once, during the Bush years...I think it was on Nightline.

Anyone who saw that interview whould know not to pick her.

She was absolutely terrible.


39 posted on 07/13/2012 5:07:56 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: stormhill
Now, a rabidly liberal RINO has been redefined as a "moderate"

It's nothing new. Liberal Republicans are always referred to as 'moderate'. While any Democrat who doesn't want to implement full-blown communism while killing all babies with forced-unionized government doctors after getting rid of our military is a 'Conservative Democrat.'

40 posted on 07/13/2012 5:09:45 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Government's solution to everything: Less freedom.)
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To: markomalley

She is a brilliant person who could verbally destroy Barack Obama and show him for the intellectual midget he his.

She is the real thing, a black woman who lived the true life of a poor southern black person and who surmounted the difficulties to rise to the top. She is the real thing.....

The demand for super conservative values is trumped by super brilliance and shear ability. Condi could be a great supplement to the Romney effort.


41 posted on 07/13/2012 5:15:00 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: markomalley
is she too moderate and too tied to Bush?

Yes!

42 posted on 07/13/2012 5:18:36 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: samtheman
My fear is that Mitt is going to go for the race/gender card and sell out everything to be able to play that.

Has "identity politics" written all over it. The "stupid" party's attempt to play a game that the left has written the rules for is a recipe for disaster.

43 posted on 07/13/2012 5:23:03 AM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: markomalley

A double RINO ticket? Perfect for the Party over Principal crowd.


44 posted on 07/13/2012 5:26:11 AM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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To: markomalley

Liberal Condi would be absolutely no help to Romney. He needs a name bigger than his to win decisively! We need someone who is against LOST and sees the UN for what it is: an America hating organization of little empires like Zimbobyou seeking to take over the Hoover Dam and all of America’s federal land.

Condi was a piss poor SOS serving a RINO, who learned her ‘craft’ where Albright learned hers.


45 posted on 07/13/2012 5:28:48 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: ScottinVA

If he’s going to pick a relatively new senator he should look no further than Rand Paul!

He’s one of the few genuine articles.


46 posted on 07/13/2012 5:30:46 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Theodore R.; Roccus; PowderMonkey

This is the Harriet Miers moment we’ve all been dreading. Pretty freaking early. Pretty freaking bad.


47 posted on 07/13/2012 5:43:15 AM PDT by samtheman (The Trillion Dollar ObamaCareTax definitely is a tax; just ask the US Supreme Court.)
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To: IbJensen
If he’s going to pick a relatively new senator he should look no further than Rand Paul!

Rand would be a great choice, but I'm thinking right now he's needed in the Senate, to counterbalance the weak, withered, wimpy Mitch McConnell.

48 posted on 07/13/2012 5:47:32 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: samtheman
This is the Harriet Miers moment we’ve all been dreading. Pretty freaking early. Pretty freaking bad.

Relax. It's not going to happen.

Like I said earlier, it's a feint, which accomplishes two objectives: 1) Throwing the media off the Bain goosechase (worked, didn't it?), and 2) Letting Condi catch all the buzz while Mitt continues to vet other possibilities.

Everyone knows she's too intricately tied to the Bush Administration.... it isn't going to be her.

49 posted on 07/13/2012 5:51:45 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: markomalley
Condoleeza Rice is a "conservative" like Colon Bowel is a "conservative."
50 posted on 07/13/2012 6:01:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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