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Sheriff Joe set to release more Obama 'shockers'; TODAY Live Thread
World Net Daily ^ | July 10, 2012 | WND

Posted on 07/17/2012 9:08:06 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Edited on 07/17/2012 9:17:36 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: SvenMagnussen
Are you passing gossip?

Gossip is Satan's talk radio

Why not Gossip is Satan's liberal media?

601 posted on 07/17/2012 6:13:03 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I hope that this is the repeat of conference. Have saved for later.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/sheriff-joe-arpaio-press-conference/


602 posted on 07/17/2012 6:14:22 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: CommieCutter

hospital of birth was supposed to be blank as well (a 9).


603 posted on 07/17/2012 6:14:49 PM PDT by Cherokee Conservative (If a tree falls over in the woods, and then snaps back upright as a joke, do the squirrels laugh?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I hope that this is the repeat of conference. Have saved for later.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/sheriff-joe-arpaio-press-conference/


604 posted on 07/17/2012 6:15:26 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Terry Mross

And don’t be surprised if Romney picks Rubio...

As a long time Floridian I would be drop dead shocked if he did. - Rubio has two such chances, slim & none and Slim has left town.

I know, redneck humor.


605 posted on 07/17/2012 6:16:04 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: fatima

And they are usually full of $hit.


606 posted on 07/17/2012 6:18:16 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

But joe is trying to lead a movement. I have no doubt he is all you say he is. I am just saying that his style is not that of a leader in today’s media world.

If you want to come across as believable you need to address the questions of the biased media with facts, and wit. Appearing like you should be chomping a cigar and barking at anyone who dares to question you is not going to win hearts and minds. As soon as he growls 60% of the country shuts their ears.


607 posted on 07/17/2012 6:22:39 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

“You have a law enforcement officer emphatically claiming this is fraud with tangible reasons to support this now. Whereas it was somewhat conjecture previously.”

A) its against a democrat

B) the evidence provided is from a person who treats criminals like criminals, therefore he is bad...though not to say that if he had found records of Bush shirking guard duty he wouldn’t be portrayed as greater than God by the same people

Conclusion, everything Joe sais is less than irrelevant, and therefore evil.


608 posted on 07/17/2012 6:28:09 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

There is no question Bammy’s background is whacked. He’s burried it with a lot of help from his friends. It is my estimation that GOPe is centrally concerned about conservatives raising a stink about it and exposing THEM. That is why they are being more crappy than usual towards conservative activists. Politicans don’t kick around a huge group like the Tea Party unless there is something extraordinary going on. The Tea Party activists hold the key to both their power and the key to their undoing. This is why they are acting so strange.


609 posted on 07/17/2012 6:29:27 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SvenMagnussen; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Obama was s Permanent Resident Alien living in the U.S. from 1971 until 1983; when he naturalized as a U.S. Citizen.

Unless you offer any kind of proof, you're just another crank troll. Offer proof of any kind to your assertion, otherwise, you only discredit the good name of Free Republic.

610 posted on 07/17/2012 6:32:49 PM PDT by glock rocks (optimist / pessimist? I'm an awesomist - There's a dragon in that glass!)
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To: little jeremiah
Such logs are open to the public, so you're wrong.

Do you have any proof that they're open to the public? Or am I supposed to believe that you're wrong simply because you say so? Nevermind that I've physically seen logs that were CLEARLY marked as non-public information protected by HIPAA.

You're not conservative but a leftist gadfly.

I'm not conservative because I think that hospital records are non-public??

611 posted on 07/17/2012 6:36:49 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: bhl

I vote for water boarding instead!


612 posted on 07/17/2012 6:37:33 PM PDT by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

WHAT IS HE HIDING???


It’s obvious. He has been complicit with engaging in immigration fraud. And Team Obama has blackmailed him and the HDOH to support Obama in asserting that a Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Honolulu, HI on August 4, 1961.


613 posted on 07/17/2012 6:40:36 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

The one thing I think is most obvious is the forgery of the selective service card and Breitbart has produced visual evidence of him in a rally urging students not to register.

The question I have is: Does the president legally have to be registered for the selective service ? If he does there has to be a database out there somewhere to cross-reference his forged card to ?


614 posted on 07/17/2012 6:43:02 PM PDT by Bigjimslade
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To: All

TEASER - Sheriff Joe Arpaio Obama Investigation News Conference July 17th,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gWFuOqoBBQ&feature=player_embedded


615 posted on 07/17/2012 6:43:27 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

The one thing I think is most obvious is the forgery of the selective service card and Breitbart has produced visual evidence of him in a rally urging students not to register.

The question I have is: Does the president legally have to be registered for the selective service ? If he does there has to be a database out there somewhere to cross-reference his forged card to ?


616 posted on 07/17/2012 6:43:27 PM PDT by Bigjimslade
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To: Meet the New Boss
However, what we really need is to see the coding system for the other boxes besides race to confirm this.

Some of the other Freepers brought up the coding, and cracked the codes on here months and months ago. So it was just a bit disappointing that the posse went over this same ground but I need to remember that not everyone is reading about this on FR as closely as we are! It is a good thing that the posse called attention to the coding significance today, even if it's over most people's (LSM's) heads. I'll wager that our trusty Freepers have the other coding books you are looking for on hand. I would like to see them, too!

617 posted on 07/17/2012 6:44:31 PM PDT by Rona_Badger (Heeds the Calling Wind)
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To: MagUSNRET

just got home after stoppin at Fuddruckers.....

read every post and those on several other threads...

some are close to facts and yet too far away while most here are missin it by three lite years

that said...I gotta review tapes do some snoopin and re look at pics

and when I mean most missed it....I mean by the distance of the moon to a McDonald’s in Cleveland

I’ll be back soon as possible to write a piece accurately sharin the presser

side note.............. in the ole listen to what you don’t hear department............

did you hear peep one about the BC document being well maybe real or at least not fake ?

of course not....not this time and seated front row were 2 men a mac savant and a windows savant...all spruced, nervous, called on to appear and answer questions PROVING the BC was fraud by intervention.

What were their names?

Oh that’s right, they weren’t ax’d any questions....HMMMMMM


618 posted on 07/17/2012 6:47:51 PM PDT by advertising guy (the White House hasn't had this much leakin since Billy Carter watered the Rose Garden)
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To: Cherokee Conservative
hospital of birth was supposed to be blank as well (a 9).

I don't see a penciled-in number 9 in the hospital box.

619 posted on 07/17/2012 6:50:20 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: advertising guy

Looking forward to your analysis. Hope to see it soon.


620 posted on 07/17/2012 6:50:36 PM PDT by Faith
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To: advertising guy

Thanks.

We’ve got FReepes on the ground!


621 posted on 07/17/2012 6:51:02 PM PDT by glock rocks (optimist / pessimist? I'm an awesomist - There's a dragon in that glass!)
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To: advertising guy

Does post #556 on this thread nail it?


622 posted on 07/17/2012 6:52:27 PM PDT by Faith
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To: petitfour
And what exactly is the penalty for letting someone see this patient log?
A person who knowingly obtains or discloses individually identifiable health information in violation of the Privacy Rule may face a criminal penalty of up to $50,000 and up to one-year imprisonment. The criminal penalties increase to $100,000 and up to five years imprisonment if the wrongful conduct involves false pretenses, and to $250,000 and up to 10 years imprisonment if the wrongful conduct involves the intent to sell, transfer, or use identifiable health information for commercial advantage, personal gain or malicious harm. The Department of Justice is responsible for criminal prosecutions under the Privacy Rule.

Who do you think is going to sue the facility? Barack Obama’s executive branch? Barack Obama? Stanley Dunham?

The Department of Justice is responsible for criminal prosecutions under the Privacy Rule.
Above two quotes from the HHS website.

Is there a fine?

As above, the fine could be as high as 250,000 if it is judged to be for commercial advantage, personal gain, or malicious harm.

Will the facility be closed?

No. Fined, with the possibility of those responsible serving jail terms.

The patient is dead. Does HIPAA cover dead people?

Yes. See this article.

623 posted on 07/17/2012 6:52:39 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: tutstar

AZ Secretary of State requested that the HI DOH verify as true the following birth facts: gender male, DOB Aug 4, 1961, city of birth Honolulu, HI, island of birth Oahu, mother’s name Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, father’s name Barack Hussein Obama.

Hawaii statute (HRS 338-14.3) says that the DOH SHALL (mandatory, no discretion allowed) verify to anybody who qualifies the fact that they have a certificate on file AND any fact about the vital even that the requestor provides to be verified - with the stipulation that when the DOH verifies something it is certifying that the event happened as described by the requestor.

HI statute (HRS 338-17) says that the probative value of late and altered birth certificates is determined by a judicial or administrative person or body when the certificate is presented as evidence. IOW, the State of Hawaii considers the claims on late and altered certificates to be hearsay at best. The claims are NOT considered to be legally true.

So when you put all that together what it means is this: the only legal reason for Onaka to refuse to verify the facts that a qualified requestor asks to be verified is if those facts are not claimed on a legally valid record. The DOH cannot simply ignore some facts that a qualified requestor asks to be verified.

Onaka refused to verify any of the above-mentioned birth facts for Obama. He verified that the claims on Obama’s posted BC are the same claims as are in their birth record for him, so it’s not that Bennett’s guesses didn’t match the birth record. The only reason left for Onaka to refuse to verify those facts is because the record they have (which claims those things) is itself NON-VALID.

IOW, what Ken Bennett actually received from Alvin Onaka was an indirect confirmation that the birth record they have for Obama is not legally valid.

As I mentioned, the things that make a record non-valid are a late filing or major amendments. Those things have to be noted on a BC, and THAT is why Obama had to forge both his COLB and long-form even though the claims on a genuine copy of them would be the same as what his forgeries claimed. He had to get rid of the notes of the amendments.

If the hand-written codes on the forgery are the actual notations from the record they have for Obama, Zullo’s info from today is proof that the original record had no info in two of the fields - but the record the HDOH has now DOES have info in those fields, so the record HAS been amended.

When you look at the kind of amendments that require the BC to be marked as “ALTERED”, though, simply adding the father’s race would not be enough to do that. There had to be something larger than that, in addition to those items we know were changed (unless even the base document for the forgery was somebody other than Obama’s).


624 posted on 07/17/2012 6:55:09 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost; Jeff Head

This just became the lead headline on Drudge!

Here is the link to watch the first 37 minutes of the press conference:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/sheriff-joe-arpaio-press-conference/


625 posted on 07/17/2012 6:58:26 PM PDT by patriot453 (Barack Obama: the best thing that ever happened to the Republican Party)
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To: Faith

severely.......NO


626 posted on 07/17/2012 6:59:16 PM PDT by advertising guy (the White House hasn't had this much leakin since Billy Carter watered the Rose Garden)
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To: newheart
Gonna have to be a whole lot more than that

The pixel and pica people notwithstanding, the bald truth here is what he got from Hawaii is NOT what he released to the public.

Spare me the photoshop jargon. We all know it's a fake because what he got ain't what he gave out. He made the handout himself.

On to the draft card and the SS#. BTW, This identity problem is very old news. It's what got him off the Illinois Bar. He actually had the brass to deny ever having used an alias! That's right. He denied the whole "Soetoro" thing. Which if he has an Hawaiian Birth Certificate at all, is the name that in all likelihood would be on it. Because when a kid is adopted, original records (if any) are sealed and new ones issued with the adopted name.

Of course just to keep it interesting, he also denied drug use and having any traffic tickets. This Mombasa MF is quite a piece of work. Hope Sheriff Joe's Posse is the real deal

627 posted on 07/17/2012 6:59:42 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: patriot453

FINALLY it’s up on Drudge!

I’ve been waiting all day!


628 posted on 07/17/2012 7:00:06 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: little jeremiah
At first I was really perplexed by Arpaio’s Press Conference.

It was advertised as a BLOCKBUSTER disclosure but the presentation was low key and all the news bimbos and bozos just piled on asking ,”whats the big deal?”.

It's now obvious that the reporters had absolutely no idea what was actually being presented to them and what the significance of the information was since they were neither lawyers or law enforcement personnel.

Up until now there has been no solid, legally admissible evidence regarding Obama’s birth certificate and, given the fact that all of this happened 50 years ago and everyone involved was presumably dead, I figured there never would be.

Sure, you could have tons of experts analyze the Adobe layers in the BC and proclaim it a forgery but no one is going to go after a sitting President based on that kind of evidence.

Consider what has happened.

The Arizona SoS forces the State of Hawaii to go on record and formally take legal ownership of the forged Birth Certificate on the pretext of needing the information to put Obama’s name on the 2012 ballot.

After a lot of hemming and hawing, Hawaii finally certifies, in writing by an authorized responsible public official, that the document came from them and represents Obama’s official BC.

In one of the most bizarre statements I have seen from a public official, the AZ SoS states that he has received an email from the State of Hawaii certifying the authenticity and validity of the BC and it's fine with him despite the fact that he has not actually bothered to read the email.

Immediately after this, Arpaio sends his team to Hawaii to interview VK Lee, the 95 year old woman who not only is was in charge of filling out birth certificates in Hawaii at the time, but was in fact THE ACTUAL PERSON WHO FILLED OUT AND SIGNED the purported Obama BC.

As such she is THE direct, official witness to this event and not only is she alive - she is fully in control of her mental faculties.

Arpaio’s team obviously interviewed her and took a recorded, formal legal affidavit from her as a first person witness to the events which admissible in criminal court.

In it the have formal sworn testimony documenting from the first party direct witness who filled out the document in question that

a) the procedures and policies used at the time of Obama’s birth in detail for the record for background and context, which also documents the ladies recall and mental state.

b) they documented the significance of the penciled in number 9 as unknown in fields showing that the information was unknown and left blank

c) the have the DIRECT, SWORN TESTIMONY by the actual lady that filled out and signed the original BC document 50 years ago that she left those fields blank except for the number 9 when she meticulously filled out the paper work, as was the policy at the time.

d) they have her sworn testimony that there is no way the information added to the fields came from her or any other legitimate source in Hawaii at the time and the words now present in those fields were never any part of the format of any official Hawaiian document of the day.

e) they have her sworn testimony that she did not and could not have made a mistake at the time because the documents would never have passed official review at the time, and that she was very careful and “did not make mistakes” on official documents.

f) based on the above she has identified the document, officially certified by the state of Hawaii and signed by herself, as being altered and forged.

I am stunned that they were able to obtain this level of evidence, which is none other than the duly appointed, official government records keeper who actually filled out and signed that exact birth certificate 50 some years ago officially provide sworn testimony that it is a fraudulent and forged or altered.

It simply does not get any better than that from a criminal prosecution stand point and it also validates all of the evidence of forgery documented by the experts
in the Adobe .pdf Birth Certificate published by the Obama Administration

This really is a big effen’ deal and breaks the case open if anyone can be found to pursue it.

629 posted on 07/17/2012 7:00:15 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

all that is excellent but you missed the M E A T of the presser


630 posted on 07/17/2012 7:03:22 PM PDT by advertising guy (the White House hasn't had this much leakin since Billy Carter watered the Rose Garden)
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To: advertising guy

Looking forward to your post.

Thank you for your work!


631 posted on 07/17/2012 7:07:03 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: advertising guy
Better than the disclosure that Arpaio has a sworn statement by the Hawaiian government official who originally signed and executed the birth certificate 50 years ago that it is a forgery?

What was it, because I sure did miss it?

632 posted on 07/17/2012 7:08:47 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

if you listened to every word or will later ax this........what LEGAL clout does the state of Hawaii have NOW ?

now let the legal pundits run with dat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


633 posted on 07/17/2012 7:13:15 PM PDT by advertising guy (the White House hasn't had this much leakin since Billy Carter watered the Rose Garden)
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To: hoosiermama
Their marriage certificate now reads Obunga and COW Obunga....)

ROFLMAO!!! Thanks for the laugh, 'mama!

634 posted on 07/17/2012 7:13:23 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Are you breathing????? There's a tax for that.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Leg? that was a foot with a steel toed boot on it!


635 posted on 07/17/2012 7:17:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

What makes you think that Alex Okrent was the forger? Did he specialize in desktop publishing?

Sadly old Joe has spun his wheels but is nowhere. We need to win the election based on Obama’s record. After we win then we can go back and get the fact.


636 posted on 07/17/2012 7:20:19 PM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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To: advertising guy
"I’ll be back soon as possible to write a piece accurately sharin the presser"

When you get it written please ping me.......Spunky

637 posted on 07/17/2012 7:20:29 PM PDT by Spunky (Those)
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To: rdcbn; Hotlanta Mike; TheCipher; little jeremiah; bitt; STARWISE; onyx; edge919; Fantasywriter; ...

I don’t think they’ve got an affidavit from her but they do have a recording of her saying those things.

There’s more, too. Even beyond the national security implications of Hawaii circumventing the process for people born outside the country to get a record of US citizenship - which Hawaii has been doing for a long time now - this is proof of even more recent, and deliberate, fraud on the part of the HDOH itself regarding Obama’s BC.

This is proof that the HDOH altered the BC# of Stig Waidelich in order to cover up Obama’s BC# discrepancy. Stig’s mother said to a CNN reporter that he was born at Kapiolani. The birth announcement said he was born on Aug 5th, the same day as the Nordykes. His BC# is 282 after the Nordykes’. According to the procedures described by Verna Lee, there would have had to be 282 babies born at tiny Kapiolani Hospital on Aug 5th, in order for Waidelich’s BC# to be what it was on the COLB that the HDOH gave to Waidelich while CNN cameras rolled.

IOW, that whole CNN “report” (right before Obama released his forged long-form) was a staged way for the HDOH to get a fake BC# for Stig Waidelich out into the public. There is no way that was accidental - and this should blow the lid totally off of any pretenses that CNN is an actual news organization.

This is collusion by the HDOH to alter official records and present it to the public via a CNN “report”. All to cover up the fact that Obama’s BC# is problematic. And this proves what I’ve been saying also - that Hawaii has been altering official records to cover for Obama. They also altered their 1960-64 birth index and at least at one point they had somebody else’s name using the BC# for Virginia Sunahara.


638 posted on 07/17/2012 7:21:51 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: advertising guy
VK Lee's sworn testimony that the presented document is fraudulent provides the basis for a criminal complaint to be filed in court which would give the governing legal body very strong investigative and subpoena power.

All of the rules and regulations Hawaii has used to block any disclosure of records of Obama’s history are all civil in nature and you cannot use civil procedures and state privacy Statutes to cover up criminal behavior.

A criminal complaint brings this to a whole different level

639 posted on 07/17/2012 7:22:20 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Drudge has the story up as a headline:

http://drudgereport.com/


640 posted on 07/17/2012 7:23:18 PM PDT by Semper Mark (I see a bad moon rising.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

In the WND article, and from what I heard when I listend to the press conference, it was stated that the visitor logs were open to the public. But not to the investigators.

You’re not a conservative because all your comments are nasty little gadfly lefty mosquito bites. You never have said anything supportive of any conservative issue that I’ve ever seen. You’re here to p*** is the cornflakes, that’s it.


641 posted on 07/17/2012 7:25:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: rdcbn

rdcbn: “This really is a big effen’ deal and breaks the case open if anyone can be found to pursue it.”

IMHO, the even bigger deal than what you described is that Zullo essentially stated that any birth certificate from Hawaii may be only Prima Facie evidence. Hence none of the data received by the HDOH was EVER verified and that secondary sources MUST be used to prove in a court of law that the subject was born in Hawaii. In other words, all Hawaiian birth certificates are only worth the paper they are printed on...

So we all need to stop harping on Hawaii to produce the original because even if they did, it would prove nothing (except maybe that the one released by Obama was not from them).


642 posted on 07/17/2012 7:27:29 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: Bigjimslade; GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Federal employees have to have registered for the Selective Service except for a short window of birth years when it wasn’t mandatory, but 0kaka’s presumed birth year was a year in which it was mandatory.

There is a database - the Selective Service guys have it but they won’t show what they have to Arpaio’s team, they already asked to see verification.


643 posted on 07/17/2012 7:29:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Red Steel; Fred Nerks; Danae; butterdezillion; rxsid; Beckwith; Jim Robinson

How ‘bout that, Ron! I’ve pinged a few, and there are more who should realize the import of all the reams of doggedly hunted down unearthed clues.

I must admit to moments of eeriness during Zullo’s statements .. deja vu .. could’ve been an echo chamber at some points from here about 1-1/2 to 2 yrs ago during those pages and pages of intense, detailed and perhaps now possibly quite accurate fine-toothed FReeper research.

Those posts may actually be historic .. FReeper wall of history posts. Such amazing, skilled and determined sleuths. FReepers are THE best!

Fred .. hope you catch it on replay if you missed it. It’ll buoy your soul.

Audio of presser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcg-lIabchA

God bless and protect the truth warriors, our dear country and us all.


644 posted on 07/17/2012 7:32:04 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Spunky

Ping for later


645 posted on 07/17/2012 7:32:14 PM PDT by Spunky (Those)
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To: advertising guy

of course not....not this time and seated front row were 2 men a mac savant and a windows savant...all spruced, nervous, called on to appear and answer questions PROVING the BC was fraud by intervention.

What were their names?

Oh that’s right, they weren’t ax’d any questions....HMMMMMM


Who were they going to be asked questions by? Why weren’t they asked questions? (I’m sort of thick headed...)


646 posted on 07/17/2012 7:34:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
“Who were they going to be asked questions by? Why weren’t they asked questions? (I’m sort of thick headed...)”

####

Well count me as equally thick as well.

Are we expecting the propagandizing queers in the ObamaMedia to actually formulate legitimate, cogent questions relating to this absolute bombshell of a story?

I don't understand the comment either.......

647 posted on 07/17/2012 7:37:35 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: ncfool; GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Sadly old Joe has spun his wheels but is nowhere.

You're either deaf/blind, seriously mentally impaired, or ???

648 posted on 07/17/2012 7:40:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; Conscience of a Conservative
You’re not a conservative because all your comments are nasty little gadfly lefty mosquito bites. You never have said anything supportive of any conservative issue that I’ve ever seen. You’re here to p*** is the cornflakes, that’s it.,

Yep, you nailed the likely fraud from the DUmp. I have a gift for sensing Liberals disguised as Conservatives. Believe me, I have read many of his postings, you have nailed this person.

When thinking of a Freeper name this person likely had at the front of their minds, Conservatives have no conscience

649 posted on 07/17/2012 7:40:43 PM PDT by sand88
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To: visually_augmented
This has always been the case with the BC presented by the Obama Administration.

It clearly states that this is an “abstracted document”. I did research at the time on the meaning of “abstracted document” for a birth certificate and it can be a collection or compilation of information from any number of sources.

Based on my research, an “abstracted birth certificate” is virtually worthless as an official document and cannot be used to verify identity for a drivers license, passport or many other official purposes.

650 posted on 07/17/2012 7:42:04 PM PDT by rdcbn
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