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Colo. Family Tries to Regain Home From Occupiers (Major frothing mouth in anger warning!)
Yahoo news ^ | July 16, 2012 | SUSANNA KIM

Posted on 07/17/2012 9:52:52 AM PDT by nerdwithagun

Dayna Donovan was in for a surprise when she learned two strangers had been living in her Littleton, Colo., home for eight months. They still haven't moved out despite a judge's ruling they had to be out by the weekend.

On Thursday, a judge in Arapahoe County ruled that Veronica Fernandez-Beleta and Jose Rafael Leyva-Caraveo, the two people who were living in the home, had to move out by Saturday morning. But as of Monday evening, Donovan, 43, said the two were still there.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: squatters
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To: crosshairs

Where the hell is the sheriff ?


21 posted on 07/17/2012 10:26:42 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: PapaBear3625

The Donovans are Deadbeats as they have not made a mortgage payment in 13 months.

The bank needs to foreclose on the house and send the Donovans and the current “tenants” on their way.


22 posted on 07/17/2012 10:28:15 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: nerdwithagun

The house next to me had this same thing happen. The courts did bring felony charges against those that are doing this, but we need to change State law. There need not be an eviction oder but simple arrest and removal for any squatter whereby the propertyowner will swear out a complaint that the squatters do not have lawful possesion.


23 posted on 07/17/2012 10:28:55 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: AmericaUnite

until the final sale and transfer of title, the owners of record own the home.

A fraud in the inception. No clear title, no ownership right, no interest passed at all.

This judge is an idiot and ignorant for allowing this to go this far. It should be refered as a criminal tresspass and the police are lazy SOBs for ducking their jobs by calling this a civil matter.


24 posted on 07/17/2012 10:31:03 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: AmericaUnite

until the final sale and transfer of title, the owners of record own the home.

A fraud in the inception. No clear title, no ownership right, no interest passed at all.

This judge is an idiot and ignorant for allowing this to go this far. It should be refered as a criminal tresspass and the police are lazy SOBs for ducking their jobs by calling this a civil matter.


25 posted on 07/17/2012 10:31:18 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Principled

Hopefully, the bank will foreclose on the house and sell the house to some hardworking upstanding citizens who will have to decency to pay for the house.


26 posted on 07/17/2012 10:31:46 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: crosshairs

I’d think they’d wake up in the middle of the night and get dead..


27 posted on 07/17/2012 10:33:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Bernard Marx

zero. it is not foclosed and title has not passed via a sale.

The fact they are behind does not matter one iota. It does not diminish the tresspass.


28 posted on 07/17/2012 10:33:33 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: loungitude

No one. Even an illegal idiot peon from whatever south american sh!thole he comes, can honestly think buying such a house for $5000 is legitimate. The lawyers know this, the authorities know this. It is theft, pure and simple, and they had better take shifts.


29 posted on 07/17/2012 10:35:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

No one. Even an illegal idiot peon from whatever south american sh!thole he comes, can honestly think that one can go 13 months without making a mortgage payment and not expect the bank to foreclose.


30 posted on 07/17/2012 10:38:39 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: nerdwithagun
"Donovan...and her husband have struggled to find jobs...they are about $20,000 behind on their house payments, the last of which was made in June 2011."


31 posted on 07/17/2012 10:39:23 AM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Bernard Marx

“The “owners” are $20,000 behind in mortgage payments on the house and left the state when they were 2 payments behind.”

So this is really a relevant case for our time. What we don’t know is who’s squatters rights are subordinate to whom.

Are there exclusive recycling rights to the copper piping? Is there revenue sharing in selling the fixtures and appliances in the house? Do the EITC checks and EBT cards that arrive at the house mailbox constitute community property?

These are questions that need to be answered.


32 posted on 07/17/2012 10:40:13 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Uncle Slayton

Payment on a loan, when/where/how, really isn’t the point. Record - owner of record. Liability, responsibility are still the homeowners’ until the bank/foreclosure has cleared.

Complications aside, I maintain, the illegal peons knew what they were doing. One has nothing to do with the other. One is a matter of private business, and the other is knowing fraud.


33 posted on 07/17/2012 10:43:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Uncle Slayton

From all appearances, they abandoned the property. I really don’t have a lot of sympathy for them. The occupiers are probably lying about giving somebody $5K, but that’s a smart lie because it kicks it out of criminal court.


34 posted on 07/17/2012 10:45:14 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Gaffer

The Donovan family is doing nothing more than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic as if they cannot currently pay for gas to get to work, they are likely not to come up with the 20k they owe the bank.

The bank will take to house and will get the squatters out of there.


35 posted on 07/17/2012 10:48:08 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton
Hopefully, the bank will foreclose on the house and sell the house to some hardworking upstanding citizens who will have to decency to pay for the house.


google MERS... clouded titles
The banks had an idea to create a database for mortgages..

problem is they never went to county tax offices to record
the changes.. (major lawsuit in Texas for lost fees)

there are about 10% of mortgages that are clouded..

they are repossessing on homes that are current and people who have paid off their homes

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/12/clouded-title-the-gross-illegality-of-mers/

36 posted on 07/17/2012 10:51:46 AM PDT by freedommom
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To: Uncle Slayton
Hopefully, the bank will foreclose on the house and sell the house to some hardworking upstanding citizens who will have to decency to pay for the house.


google MERS... clouded titles
The banks had an idea to create a database for mortgages..

problem is they never went to county tax offices to record
the changes.. (major lawsuit in Texas for lost fees)

there are about 10% of mortgages that are clouded..

they are repossessing on homes that are current and people who have paid off their homes

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/12/clouded-title-the-gross-illegality-of-mers/

37 posted on 07/17/2012 10:51:59 AM PDT by freedommom
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To: Uncle Slayton

This has happened fairly often in Detroit with foreclosed properties. Sometimes a couple years go by with the squatter getting utilities turned on and generally maintaining the property. In D town this sort of squatter has been providing a useful service. These damp Americans look to be just spongers.


38 posted on 07/17/2012 10:52:10 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: Uncle Slayton

That’s okay.....it is the circle of business life. The real win here would be that the thieves who thought they could buy the whole mess for $5K are thwarted. If they are illegal, they shouldn’t be here in the first place.


39 posted on 07/17/2012 10:52:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: CodeToad
The Donovan story is a little too convenient and may be a tactic to gain sympathy and forestall foreclosurer.
40 posted on 07/17/2012 10:52:28 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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