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Colo. Family Tries to Regain Home From Occupiers (Major frothing mouth in anger warning!)
Yahoo news ^ | July 16, 2012 | SUSANNA KIM

Posted on 07/17/2012 9:52:52 AM PDT by nerdwithagun

Dayna Donovan was in for a surprise when she learned two strangers had been living in her Littleton, Colo., home for eight months. They still haven't moved out despite a judge's ruling they had to be out by the weekend.

On Thursday, a judge in Arapahoe County ruled that Veronica Fernandez-Beleta and Jose Rafael Leyva-Caraveo, the two people who were living in the home, had to move out by Saturday morning. But as of Monday evening, Donovan, 43, said the two were still there.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: squatters
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To: nerdwithagun

It’s a home invasion. Shoot ‘em!


41 posted on 07/17/2012 10:54:34 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: crosshairs

Rent off duty swat teem,over in 60 seconds.


42 posted on 07/17/2012 11:03:24 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: RFEngineer

we do know.

the law is crystal clear.

The squaters are the law breakers and have NO RIGHTS to anything. Their claim as participants in a fraud is meaningless since the fraud gave them nothing. (if they are not complicit.)

The homeowner owns the house despite the status of the mortgage. Title is in their name so that is it.

If the squatters recorded a phoney deed they are attempting theft. This would point to the whole bought the house scheme as a fraud.

As for the law firm, their law licenses should be pulled on an emergency basis within seconds.


43 posted on 07/17/2012 11:08:33 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Uncle Slayton

POssibly, but it does have a ring of truth.


44 posted on 07/17/2012 11:13:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: Gaffer
No one. Even an illegal idiot peon from whatever south american sh!thole he comes, can honestly think buying such a house for $5000 is legitimate. The lawyers know this, the authorities know this. It is theft, pure and simple, and they had better take shifts.

I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you there. I have seen it happen. I worked for a housing authority for a while (one of those government offices which administer Public Housing and Section 8 programs) and a Mexican woman, who was a tenant of one of the Public Housing units (these units were all small houses), managed to convince a family of illegals that she owned the Public Housing units and "sold" one of them to this family. Of course, the deception was discovered pretty quickly by the housing authority, but the woman had the cash in her hand well before.

Sad fact is that, as Americans, we take for granted the rules of propriety, so when something seems off, we're sensitive to it. Some of our undocumented "guests" not only deal with shady stuff all the time while here because they are illegal, but come from countries where there are little to no formal procedures for such things, or those procedures are so regularly circumvented as to be worthless. Add to that the lack of education often found with these people, and you've got a whole lot of suckers just waiting to be fleeced. Probably part of the reason so many people are pro-illegal immigration - more marks.
45 posted on 07/17/2012 11:17:46 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: 1rudeboy

Coward. We used to defend our property in the US. Now, we count on the very government that sets up “sanctuary cities” to come to our rescue when illegals steal our homes.


46 posted on 07/17/2012 11:20:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: nerdwithagun

Why not hire arbitration from the firm of Smith & Wesson?


47 posted on 07/17/2012 11:20:54 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Bernard Marx

They are still listed on the deed and will have all attachments of legal and lawful responsibility should anything adverse ocurr.


48 posted on 07/17/2012 11:24:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: nerdwithagun

Even under the rules, I’ve never understood the concept of “adverse posession”.


49 posted on 07/17/2012 11:27:30 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Uncle Slayton

This happened to a friend in Oregon.
She got a renter, they refused to pay the rent and refused to leave.

She lost the house, her credit rating and nearly lost her sanity.


50 posted on 07/17/2012 11:30:13 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Uncle Slayton

I give a damn.


51 posted on 07/17/2012 11:30:23 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Cyber Liberty

Because they left the home for 8 months? I have several friends who only one of their homes a month or two a year.

They didn’t abandon it and the squatters have stolen the home with no legal or lawful right to possession .


52 posted on 07/17/2012 11:31:02 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: nerdwithagun

All you have to do is enter your home with a pissed off look on your face carrying a few weapons.....at least that is how I would settle it.....


53 posted on 07/17/2012 11:35:37 AM PDT by Kimmers (Fair isn't everybody getting the same thing, fair is getting what you need to be successful)
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To: nerdwithagun

All you have to do is enter your home with a pissed off look on your face carrying a few weapons.....at least that is how I would settle it.....


54 posted on 07/17/2012 11:35:55 AM PDT by Kimmers (Fair isn't everybody getting the same thing, fair is getting what you need to be successful)
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To: Principled
“Doesn’t transfer of real property require the signature and presence of either an attorney or title company in every state - all 57 of them.”

Not if the “salesman” is a con artist preying on uneducated; non English speaking people for example.
He may have a scam for properties that are foreclosed. He makes up a story about “selling” a property for some very low amount; all in cash of course.
He gets the cash and tells the “buyers” congratulations.

55 posted on 07/17/2012 11:36:19 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("The writing is on the wall - Unions are screwed. reformist2 10:04 PM #27")
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To: longtermmemmory

“we do know.
the law is crystal clear.”

I guess my humor isn’t crystal clear.

Ownership rights are clear - at least for the moment. It’s just ironic that folks that aren’t paying their mortgage are trying to oust squatters that aren’t paying rent.

Just a sign of the times.


56 posted on 07/17/2012 11:41:14 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: nerdwithagun

Seriously, how long does it take to hire some tough guys to go into the house and use attitude adjustment to convince the squatters to leave in a hurry?

This is one of those situations where the police and courts are of little or no help, and it can cost a fortune to resolve it that way. But a few tough guys and the squatters will be out on the street post haste, nursing some bumps and bruises.

Importantly, once they are off the property, *then* call the police to report them as trespassers, requesting that they be given written warning to not trespass again or they will be subject to arrest. This will completely change the equation, as the police will be more than happy to enforce *their own* orders.


57 posted on 07/17/2012 11:45:28 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Vendome

This may be old-school of me, but I always expected to be out of a house if I haven’t made a payment in eight months (I think it was longer, but that’s not important).

I like the summation by the poster a few posts up. We have somebody who hasn’t been paying their mortgage trying to evict some who’s not paying rent.


58 posted on 07/17/2012 11:50:23 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Yeah but the property wasn’t foreclosed... at least I didn’t read that it was.

I still think there was no realtor and was no 5k.


59 posted on 07/17/2012 11:56:13 AM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: DManA

“I give a damn.”

Well, then you may want to send them $20,000.00 to pay that mortgage, otherwise they are going to be living in that basement for a long time.


60 posted on 07/17/2012 11:58:30 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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