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"You can't fight evil with evil"
July 17, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/17/2012 3:30:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: skeeter
Conservatives need to forget about trying to control the GOP. It has been carefully designed to keep conservatives in their place.

If conservatives formed there own third party, which only supported Republicans with proven track records, members of Congress would have no alternative but to take the conservative position into account before supporting liberal legislation. The President would find his situation similar.

Consider the current election, if conservatives had hung together in declining to support Romney, he would b e making very overt guarantees to conservatives to get our vote. However, when so many automatically support him, no matter how dissatisfied they are, he knows he doesn't have to do anything - so don't expect anything.

101 posted on 07/17/2012 5:40:28 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Well, he definitely does not believe in the same God and Holy Bible that I do or he would never have been an abortionist, homosexualist statist!! To me he’s just your run of the mill godless liberal progressive. No difference between him and the godless liberal progressives Ted Kennedy, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Joe Lieberman, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, et al!! And, yes, these godless abortionist/homosexualist statists all claim to be devout Christians, Jews or Mormons, too.


102 posted on 07/17/2012 5:40:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

For me I wish Cheney would just get up there and take the place over. Got a new heart, same spirit, let’s get the Kenyan commie bastard out of the white house!

I’d really love that to happen. Not holding my breath.


103 posted on 07/17/2012 5:42:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Yes. That’s a zoticide. Poor little fella had nothing to FReep for anymore.


104 posted on 07/17/2012 5:45:36 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Jim Robinson

At least your not folding up into a fetal ball and hoping for the best!

I can buy in to your idea or hope because at least it is something to work towards.

Having said that I’m totally onboard! I will use your description as a guide line, and pray that we destroy the dems and GOPe on election day!

Please accept my apologies for being testy lately, it’s because I’m very concerned for my country and my grand children’s future.

I don’t know who to fight but fighting is all I know how to do.

Randy

Contribution to follow.


105 posted on 07/17/2012 5:53:29 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Damned if I do, Damned if I don't. Damn it, I will!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Or if (not as planned or carried out by any human of course) Barack and Joe were to find themselves visiting the pearly gates on the same day. OK, that would mean President Boehner, but America would be spared a furious lame duck bent on vengeance.


106 posted on 07/17/2012 5:53:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: telebob; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; darkwing104; Allegra; humblegunner; SunkenCiv; 50mm; Eaker; ..

So long, telebob (Posting History)
Hat Tip to KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Very unhappy troll has nothing left to FReep for and falls on the lightning



I guess you knew when you weren't wanted



FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

107 posted on 07/17/2012 5:56:17 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Randy Larsen

I agree, I can respect a fighting spirit, even if in error, far more than a coward. Mitt has shown a troubling mix of cowardly fratricidal back stabbing and feisty Obama bashing. Obama? He’s 99 44/100% coward.


108 posted on 07/17/2012 5:57:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Kickass Conservative
You're not fighting ... for anything.

"There's nothing new under the sun." The Liberal sycophants in our MSM-driven culture have been around a hell of a lot longer than Obama -- they were around when Clinton "won" with a "popular mandate" of 43%, and in fact they were MORE powerful then for the lack of more open and alternative media we have now. And Clinton was MORE POPULAR then than Obama is now.

Just the same, because enough people (I was NOT one of them) had the courage to reject liberal Republican HW, hold fast to their convictions, and take a chance on Perot in a year when the Democrat candidate was weak and unknown, Clinton's lack of mandate resulted in the Republican Revolution two years later. I'm sure you would have though any hope of such as "silly" then as you do now.

Human nature is human nature. KCon, FEAR and faint-heartedness are the only things that validate Obama's ability to play Dictator. It's as old as the mountains.

If Obama was as all-powerful as you say, why are we even having elections in 2012? How is it we are here on FR debating?

Could it be because your fear is exaggerated?

109 posted on 07/17/2012 5:58:41 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Darksheare
So I see you've clarified your original assertion about a general "gun ban" that did not exist. What Romney did sign was an (admittedly noxious) assault weapons ban, which was the price extracted from him by an 85% Democrat legislature (and the policemen's union) for relaxing general gun ownership requirements. Of course, we all know that "assault weapon" is a euphemism for "whatever looks kinda scary", so that was a cop-out on his part.

Most states (including mine) wouldn't stand for that kind of nonsense, and in fact I own several weapons that are still absolutely forbidden in Massachusetts. I agree with you here: Romney's 2nd Amendment record is far from exemplary. I don't even think he rates a "C" grade. But Obama gets an "F" across the board because he'd ban them all, given a chance.

110 posted on 07/17/2012 6:00:23 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: kegger8r
If Obama remains we shall have no liberty by the time he gets through with us.

If they tell ya you're no longer free and order you to board the boxcar and report to some government camp, are you going to follow orders and comply?

You going to roll over and die at that point?

111 posted on 07/17/2012 6:04:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Finny

The knock-on effect of refusing Mitt a vote certainly can be debated about. Strategic withdrawals can very well result in better wins in the future.

What’s surprising to me, politically speaking, is that there is NOT a Perot figure looming on the horizon to deal the worst candidate a sub mandate win (not that Obama would care, but still). Goode is maybe the closest to a national figure — and he’d formerly been not GOP but Democrat. It seems a bit odd that he has ended up where he is now. Anyhow, he hasn’t anywhere close to a Perotish public stature.


112 posted on 07/17/2012 6:04:15 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: CharacterCounts
However, when so many automatically support him, no matter how dissatisfied they are, he knows he doesn't have to do anything - so don't expect anything.

The way the system is set up I'm afraid conservatives from the beginning were doomed to fight a delaying action against the inexorable growth of the State - it doesn't matter who we elect, all victories are temporary as everyone & everything is co-opted eventually.

How many times have we invested ourselves in a battle only to find the GOP had left us on the field.

Even so, I'm still inclined to focus the threat before me, and that is Obama, and hope for a little more time.

Honestly, the only other options are to revolt (and I mean really) or quit the whole thing and hope to escape the tender mercies of the State, in the form of death panels or whatever, for a few more decades until I go to my reward. I need a drink.

113 posted on 07/17/2012 6:04:15 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: TheOldLady
"Poor soul. He was just too high-strung."

*ducking*

114 posted on 07/17/2012 6:04:37 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Darksheare
Sorry - I wasn't able to respond immediately enough to satisfy you. See my post #110.
115 posted on 07/17/2012 6:05:40 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I hate Romney as much as Obama but I need a plan. Good, bad, doesn’t matter.

At least now I can fight for something.


116 posted on 07/17/2012 6:06:27 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Damned if I do, Damned if I don't. Damn it, I will!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Your. Lips. To. God’s. Ears.


117 posted on 07/17/2012 6:07:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
There's a vacuum, alright.

Nature has a way with vacuums. Including, we can hope, Human Nature.

118 posted on 07/17/2012 6:08:31 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Obama sure seems to like to think big picture about gun banning, hence F&F. So far, his Ratly Senate hasn’t dared bring forth anything of that nature to be run around the political football field — has it?


119 posted on 07/17/2012 6:09:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Finny

Now, now Finny! I would never shoot at you! No need to duck. But you better run. ;-P


120 posted on 07/17/2012 6:10:29 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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