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Colorado Batman shooting, more than an act of Depravity
Libertarian Party Platform ^ | 7-21-2012 | Patriot Smith

Posted on 07/21/2012 2:16:47 PM PDT by libertarian2patriot

NY Mayor Bloomberg is calling for gun control while Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper calls this an "act of depravity". Are you kidding me! These killing were by a Colorado University PHD candidate; a kid who had achieved a higher level of education than both the governor and the mayor. Depravity in this case is not just the kid, if anything is morally corrupt as Hickenlooper calls it, its liberal universities that spawn James Holmes types. If Hickenlooper wants to talk about depravity he should include the root cause of moral decline in our country today consisting of a liberal media, liberal welfare state, liberal court system, a manipulative White House, and a dumbed down Democratic Party. Bloomberg just doesn’t want to waste an opportunity for reviving an old party line. The outcome could have been different had one person in the theater had a gun; even if only used as a distraction against the shooter with a bullet proof vest. If guns are made illegal only outlaws will have guns. But gun control isn’t about a scenario in public and how the outcome could have been different; it’s about our rights as citizens to be armed under any condition. In hindsight, how many people with guns if asked would have left them at the door? Not me, and a couple guys like me could have made a difference just like airplane incidents where passengers are the ones who save the day. This is just the beginning of this media blitz and how this Batman shooting incident will be played out as a tool of the left, for example, early television coverage by Brian Ross, ABC news reporting James Holmes as a member of the "Tea Party"; and don’t forget the skewed early reporting about Trayvon Martin. These are just recent reminders about left wing agenda’s and how the news on the left reports. An empty can, not an empty gun, makes the most noise.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: colorado; media; shooting
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To: Ronin

First off, where did an unemployed kid get the major cash “to purchase the body armor, weapons, ammo, explosives, etc. etc. etc...? Tear gas grenades? Now that is a very interesting twist.”

Student loans, for the semester he was not completing. As a Phd student im sure we paid for it all. An AR15, an 870, and two glocks can be had a total of 2500 bucks.

“How did he know that theater door (normally locked) would be open?”

Opens from the inside of each theater, emergency exit. Almost a certainty he did a dry run to see how the doors work. Watch a movie, walk out emergency exit and see if you get a reaction.

“And then he just strolls outside, waits for the police and surrenders?”

He wasn’t waiting, there was a VERY fast police response, and he took several Vicoden to stay calm. He was in the process of leaving when he found himself looking straight down police guns. As fun as that armor, helmet, and mask was, he was at a mobility and vision disadvantage, and surprised, was confronted for something he didnt expect, froze and surrendered. Happens to bank robbers and gang members every single day.


41 posted on 07/21/2012 6:00:42 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino
Student loans, for the semester he was not completing. As a Phd student im sure we paid for it all. An AR15, an 870, and two glocks can be had a total of 2500 bucks.

Now that's the basis of a helluva doctoral dissertation! "Random Violence: Shooting A Crowd At A Batman Movie And Its Social Effects."

42 posted on 07/21/2012 6:03:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: DesertRhino

Until Anders Breivik came along, I think the Port Arthur massacre was one of the worst in terms of death toll.

I notice a certain tactical similarity between Holmes and Breivik; the bomb, the music set up loud on a loop designed to lure the cops (or someone) who would inadvertently set it off, and then the shooting attack itself. The body armor, the SWAT look of the shooter.

I don’t think Breivik’s little shoot-’em-up in Norway was a direct inspiration, but at the same I do wonder if Holmes took some ideas from it into his head. Certainly, this young man is no dummy; he’s highly intelligent. He might have looked at the general outline of the Breivik attack and thought to himself, “Hey......I could do that too!”

One thing I’m sure about, this wasn’t some spur-of-the-moment incident; this required planning, weapons procurement deliberation, and premeditation.


43 posted on 07/21/2012 6:05:10 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: DesertRhino

Aren’t theater emergency exits usually alarmed?

They certainly were when I was a kid. Back in the day, I had the bright idea of sneaking out into the back alley to smoke halfway through a boring chick-flick my gf dragged me to. The alarm scared the crap out of me and the house lights came up automatically.

Besides, if they weren’t alarmed, one kid would buy a ticket, open the doors and let in five friends. I’m still suspicious.


44 posted on 07/21/2012 6:10:59 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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Keep FR Running
Fight back.

45 posted on 07/21/2012 6:13:46 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Ronin

Guess that embarrassed you.

I’d think he’d take the emergency exits at face value.


46 posted on 07/21/2012 6:14:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You have no idea...

My girlfriend was super pissed because the incident occurred at one of the more “sensitive” moments of the film. I got kicked out, she stayed.

It was a week before she’d pick up when I called, and THEN I had to listen to her tell me exactly what she thought about my selfishness...

She dumped me shortly after that anyhow.


47 posted on 07/21/2012 6:23:02 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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