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Sex-crime victim could be jailed for tweeting her attackers' names
New York Post ^ | 07/22/12

Posted on 07/22/2012 9:14:57 AM PDT by AtlasStalled

Savannah Dietrich, 17, could be locked up on contempt-of-court charges for tweeting the names of her attackers after they allegedly got a sweetheart plea bargain, according to a published report. * * * The judge in the case had further protected the sex fiends by placing a gag order that barred Dietrich from talking about what happened to her.

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To: AtlasStalled

She outed them and has been held in contempt of court. Good for her.

http://www.gadailynews.com/news/national/138097-kentucky-teen-savannah-dietrich-faces-charge-for-naming-teen-attackers-on-twitter.html


101 posted on 07/22/2012 3:23:10 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: rolling_stone

“How would they like it if it happened to their sister or girlfriend? How would you like it?...”

If my sister or girlfriend where dumb enough to do what this gal did I’d disown them for being so stupid even Darwin would have to admit they needed to go extinct. She is not an innocent victim! It’s not like a bunch of drunken kids were running around assaulting women at random. She behaved badly and paid the price, what is so darn hard about the concept that actions have consequences with you people? Have you so totally drunk the feminist poison that you can’t see that. Why are you so willfully ignorant when it comes to these things that have been know since the dawn of time? Pathetic, really pathetic.


102 posted on 07/22/2012 3:26:51 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

If the judge punishes the victim, the judge loses all leverage and the victim is then free to publish anything she wants.


103 posted on 07/22/2012 3:27:35 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: trapped_in_LA

Life is no skittles and unicorns, it’s very screwed up that she was sexually assaulted. I have nothing left to say to you. This has nothing to do with what you perceive as burying my head or unwilling to view another view. I have heard your view and others like it, it is because I am fully and painfully aware of what is going on. I find your thought process seriously backwards and there probably is nothing left to discuss with you. I find your views to be a serious disgrace, perhaps you were jilted at a time and have some kind of vandetta against women. It’s really difficult to say what creates a thought process like yours, but, I’m glad I don’t know you personally. As far as FR is concerned, this will be the last post from me.


104 posted on 07/22/2012 3:27:37 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: jwalsh07

“...Unlawful orders are just that, unlawful. Of course they can in Saudi Arabia which is exactly where you belong.”

Ya tell that to all the dads in debtor prison on “contempt” charges, most of them being total broke and unable to pay to outrageous court set payments or the interest on the arrears. In case you haven’t been paying attention the constitution is about a worthless as used toilet paper when it comes to protecting your rights. The judge can still throw you in jail, you have to have money to appeal it and that takes time, time spent sitting in jail by the way.


105 posted on 07/22/2012 3:31:57 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: trapped_in_LA

Pathetic, really pathetic


106 posted on 07/22/2012 3:37:55 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: trapped_in_LA

Actually, lots of young people get drunk without sexually abusing others who have passed out. Being drunk is not an excuse for also being a criminal. Alcohol merely loosens inhibitions like the fear of being punished, it did not cause the criminal idea to sexually assault and photograph the victim, nor to post the evidence on the internet.

They shared those pictures for months, thinking they got away with it, in itself a federal felony (underage porn).


107 posted on 07/22/2012 3:44:25 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: trapped_in_LA; HollyB
I can't believe YOU believe what you type..these guys were wrong to have video taped this girl and then pass around the pics to their friends. They don't get a free pass just because they were drunk including the woman in question.
108 posted on 07/22/2012 3:44:37 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trapped_in_LA
If my sister or girlfriend where dumb enough to do what this gal did I’d disown them for being so stupid even Darwin would have to admit they needed to go extinct

And not kill her for shaming you? You surprise me for your leniency. I guess you are one of the moderates.

109 posted on 07/22/2012 3:46:05 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Literals will believe anything.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Bloviate about Judge Judy all you want but it was your DISGUSTING support of RAPE that got your post pulled.
I’d tell you to get out more but you shouldn’t be out on the streets. We’ll all be safer if your type of misogynistic personality sticks to being a keyboard commando.


110 posted on 07/22/2012 3:47:17 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: trailhkr1

Hey, I’m defending the girl.


111 posted on 07/22/2012 3:54:18 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB
Hey, I’m defending the girl.

oopps sorry.

112 posted on 07/22/2012 3:57:06 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trapped_in_LA
Who hasn’t done bone stupid things when drunk at that age?

Ummm. Moi? I've done some bone stupid things, and I continue to do them at my age, but given that I never drank in my life and have never been drunk, I'll say: moi?

My whole point was objecting to the idea that the young girl had no basis to complain about being sexually abused because she chose to get drunk around young men. Sorry. Drunk women don't lose the right to complain about being raped.

Being drunk doesn't give you an excuse for committing a rape, driving a car into a crowd of bystanders, shooting up a bar, or voting for Obama.

114 posted on 07/22/2012 3:59:21 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Valpal1

“Actually, lots of young people get drunk without sexually abusing others who have passed out.....”

Ever been to a frat party? I get the feeling that you’re beliefs would be badly shaken if you had... just saying.


115 posted on 07/22/2012 4:01:28 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: trapped_in_LA
If my sister or girlfriend where dumb enough to do what this gal did I’d disown them for being so stupid even Darwin would have to admit they needed to go extinct

I have done some really stoopid stuff while being drunk(and not drunk as well) and I bet 3/4 of the posters on FR have as well...maybe even when not drunk. Everyone makes mistakes in life they wish never happened. That is part of growing up and learning from your mistakes.

116 posted on 07/22/2012 4:01:49 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Scoutmaster

“Sorry. Drunk women don’t lose the right to complain about being raped.”

Women will complain no matter what, you even have some that complain that they weren’t molested when drunk! but that’s another story ...


117 posted on 07/22/2012 4:04:59 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: trapped_in_LA
“Actually, lots of young people get drunk without sexually abusing others who have passed out.....” Ever been to a frat party? I get the feeling that you’re beliefs would be badly shaken if you had... just saying.

I was in a fraternity (ATO) and women were NEVER abused like this and we had some h*ll of crazy parties. These guys went over the line. You don't abuse passed out women and tape it and then forward it to your friends.

118 posted on 07/22/2012 4:06:00 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: HollyB

I guess she should have just posted pictures of the guys without the names.


119 posted on 07/22/2012 4:06:49 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

In retrospect, actually not, because it is not a separate charge, but a contempt charge. Contempt is strange law, because the judge that finds someone in contempt is solely responsible for meting out their punishment, that is, no jury. And contempt is also “perpetual” in a situation like this. This means every time she opened her mouth, as it were, the judge could slap an additional contempt charge on her.

So what she should do is get all the information out, and to someone the judge cannot touch, so that if she is punished, the truth keeps coming out.

In the meantime, keep up the pressure on the judge for being unfair, and letting the boys go with a “wrist slap”.


120 posted on 07/22/2012 4:06:58 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: trapped_in_LA

You might want to reread some of what you are posting. I doubt you would really disown your sister for getting drunk then being assaulted. I’m sure you aren’t that heartless.


121 posted on 07/22/2012 4:08:53 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: trailhkr1

“That is part of growing up and learning from your mistakes.”

You can’t learn from your mistakes when you constantly blame someone else for them, which is what we have here with this gal. Oh, and all the white knights that want to rush to defend her just reenforces that behavior. I don’t expect that this girl will learn anything from this as all those around her are doing what you guys are doing, no condemnation for her actions, just anger at the boys. Thanks to that she’ll go on to even greater depths of depravity rather than repenting and turning her life around.


122 posted on 07/22/2012 4:10:40 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: trapped_in_LA

It’s been pointed out throughout history that it is the female of the species who civilize the male side.

As you and I can clearly see, this young, foolish, woman certainly isn’t going to civilize anyone. Quite the opposite, she is a of those paving our downfall.

You’ve made many a good argument for treating her as the miscreant ( a ‘mutt’ I think you called her upthread) she is. Good on you.

I don’t know what to think about all the Freepers who have been so easily duped, disappointed at their lack of knowledge and objectivity I guess.


123 posted on 07/22/2012 4:12:58 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Balding_Eagle
As you and I can clearly see, this young, foolish, woman certainly isn’t going to civilize anyone. Quite the opposite, she is a of those paving our downfall.

I have know plenty of very nice, moral, conservative women form exceptionally good homes who have gotten drunk and passed out.......part of life and having fun...it's not just liberal and "loose" women this happens to(passing out drunk), trust me.

124 posted on 07/22/2012 4:25:09 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: JerseyDvl

I didn’t realize there was a post of mine pulled, but after scrolling up I see there was.

I edit most of my posts through Word before posting, to correct spelling. I hadn’t deleted it yet, so I’ve saved it. I have an exact copy of what was pulled.

There was no defense of rape in that post, or any of my posts. However, in reading most posters here, I doubt that truth is nearly as important as appearances.

For anyone who cares, I have the exact copy of what was pulled and can Freepmail it.

I think I scored a direct hit with that post, and someone’s ox nearly died from being gored


125 posted on 07/22/2012 4:27:58 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: AtlasStalled

The judges order does not trump her first amendment right to free speech.

If it did, we would have no MSM liars and scum


126 posted on 07/22/2012 4:31:10 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: trailhkr1; trapped_in_LA

trapped_in_LA has a good observation on that aspect in #122.


127 posted on 07/22/2012 4:32:16 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: HollyB

In at least some cases juveniles can be sentenced to being on the sexual predator list for life. I’m not sure what specific laws are in the different states and all. The instance I know of was in Colorado - the perpetrator was about 12 years old, and was sentenced to a lifetime of reporting to the registry. However, I don’t think the information is publicly available until the perpetrators themselves turn 18 years old.

Also, I don’t think these people would be on the sex offender list if their charges were cut down to misdemeanors, but I could be wrong about that.


128 posted on 07/22/2012 5:07:33 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

“Also, I don’t think these people would be on the sex offender list if their charges were cut down to misdemeanors, but I could be wrong about that.”

You would be wrong on that, depending on the state people convicted of public urination are added to the sex offenders list because they exposed themselves while urinating (men only of coarse). These lists are horrible because they do not differentiate between those that you really do need to watch out for and someone that didn’t really do anything all that bad, like statutory rape which you see happen all the time with some 18 year old kid getting convicted of having sex with his 16 year old girl friend. Do you need to worry about him when he’s 35 and married? I don’t think so and don’t think someone like that should be on any sort of list. But we as a society have lost all sense of proportion as evidenced by this whole thread.


129 posted on 07/22/2012 5:42:16 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: trapped_in_LA

After reading your responses on this thread I have NOTHING to say to you...


130 posted on 07/22/2012 5:46:41 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

“After reading your responses on this thread I have NOTHING to say to you...”

Welll OK then, Go team woman!


131 posted on 07/22/2012 5:54:32 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: trapped_in_LA
You can’t learn from your mistakes when you constantly blame someone else for them,

Which is what YOU are doing on behalf of the rapists in this case.

The poor wittle boys just did what came naturally in your view point so no harm no foul, right? After all any other man would have done the same.

Except they don't. Only a nasty poor excuse for a barbarian would do such a thing.

The funny thing that you saying exactly what a radical feminist would, all men are rapists.

Finally I am going to ask the same question to you as I have to another on this thread.

What if the person these three raped had been male? What if it was a young man who was passed out and these attackers had come along and sodomized him, taken pictures and passed them around. Still his fault? Should he be disowned because of it? Would you say that he would go on to even greater depths of depravity rather than turning his life around?

After all, it is always the victim that is at fault, right?

How very Mohammedan of you.

132 posted on 07/22/2012 6:03:14 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Which is what YOU are doing on behalf of the rapists in this case.”

Man I get tired of all the people that have reading comprehension problems. First, they are not rapists, they were convicted of a misdemeanor sex crime and just from the article we have no real information on what they actually did to this poor unfortunate waif that just happened to be passed out in the presence of pure evil. What we do have is some gal on the war path tweeting inflammatory accusations of rape but given her total lack of character I’m not too inclined to put much stock in that. Suffice it to say the boys were punished for their bad deeds as they are now convicted sex offenders and I am not defending what they did.

Second you seem to believe that my call for her to take some responsibility for what happened as some sort of endorsement for men raping any woman they happen to see passed out on the side of the road. Where you get that from what I’ve posted I’m not sure but I think that you should look into the darkness of your own heart on that matter as your intentional distortion of what I said seems to have a darkness associated with it that reveals a character flaw that should be addressed.

Third, why is it that feminists always go to the “male rape” argument? I mean really what sort of sick homo erotic fantasy is it the drives you to make that kind of comparison? Male rape happens all the time in prison, in fact people on this board make jokes about “bubba” all the time. It happens, deal with it and move on.

People make bad choices all the time, some of them have bigger impacts on your life than others. This gal made a bad choice, but from what people write here you’d think she was an infant that had no real say in the matter. She did and what happened is partly her responsibility so get over it, that’s life.


133 posted on 07/22/2012 6:34:42 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: trailhkr1

“I have know plenty of very nice, moral, conservative women form exceptionally good homes who have gotten drunk and passed out.......part of life and having fun...it’s not just liberal and “loose” women this happens to(passing out drunk), trust me.”

I’m having a bit of cognitive dissonance here, by definition very nice, moral, conservative women do not act like drunken women of loose moral character. As someone once said, “by their fruit you shall know them” and that type of behavior just screams “bad fruit” if you know what I mean. I think you need to look closely at how you categorize behavior and the labels you attach to that behavior as it seems to not be working very well.


134 posted on 07/22/2012 6:44:31 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: AtlasStalled

Apparently one of the two guys is a lacross player, 6’1” Says “Hoping to become a doctor he feels he surgically debilitates his opponents, as they feel he has removed certain organs without anesthesia.”


135 posted on 07/22/2012 6:52:44 PM PDT by HollyB
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Apparently, both of them are lacross players.


136 posted on 07/22/2012 6:56:21 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Balding_Eagle

Its stupid comments like yours (@50) that convince me you deserve an ass raping, but you don’t see me calling for it.


137 posted on 07/22/2012 7:08:12 PM PDT by Jimmah
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To: Jimmah

I don’t run out into a busy freeway either, as this silly girl essentially did.

Judging from the words of your post, the above may have gone way over your head. If you need me to say it at your level, let me know, I’ll give it a try.


138 posted on 07/22/2012 7:54:45 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Jimmah; trapped_in_LA

trapped_in_LA, post 133, is worth reading.


139 posted on 07/22/2012 8:00:14 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: trapped_in_LA
Ya tell that to all the dads in debtor prison on “contempt” charges, most of them being total broke and unable to pay to outrageous court set payments or the interest on the arrears. In case you haven’t been paying attention the constitution is about a worthless as used toilet paper when it comes to protecting your rights. The judge can still throw you in jail, you have to have money to appeal it and that takes time, time spent sitting in jail by the way.

So because you got a raw deal from some woman and a court it's open season on young girls? Grow up and grow a set.

140 posted on 07/22/2012 8:06:42 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: jwalsh07

“So because you got a raw deal from some woman and a court it’s open season on young girls? Grow up and grow a set.”

My comment was meant to demonstrate that when it comes to contempt of court there really is no constitutional protections that will protect you from the wrath of a judge. But somehow you seem to want to know about my testicles or lack thereof as a result of getting a “raw deal”. I’m not really sure how to respond to that request so I’ll chalk it up to your being totally ignorant about what you posted earlier and leave you to your own little fantasy world. Good luck, you’ll need it once reality smacks you up side the head one day.


141 posted on 07/22/2012 8:29:58 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: trapped_in_LA
... they were convicted of a misdemeanor sex crime and just from the article we have no real information on what they actually did to this poor unfortunate waif that just happened to be passed out in the presence of pure evil.

They plead out to 1st degree sexual abuse which is a Class D felony in Kentucky. Voyeurism is a misdemeanor. Not that this matters to jihadist nuts who beat their women when they get raped.

142 posted on 07/22/2012 8:32:30 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: trapped_in_LA
Also, I can tell that you have not hung around drunken people before, alcohol lowers inhibitions...

Absolutely 100% false. In fact, dozens of studies (where researchers spiked punch they said was grape juice or gave participants grape juice and told them it was alcoholic) has shown that the only actual effects of large quantities of alcohol are loss of motor control, slurred speech, and impaired reaction time (until you pass out and poison your body). The "lowering inhibitions" crap is just that... crap! The study participants who were given alcohol without knowing it never exhibited a "loss" of inhibitions, whereas the grape juice drinkers acted like drunks.

Such statements as yours are simply excuses for people to misbehave. You are wrong, and your idea is a liberal one.

143 posted on 07/22/2012 8:57:14 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: jwalsh07

“They plead out to 1st degree sexual abuse which is a Class D felony in Kentucky. Voyeurism is a misdemeanor. Not that this matters to jihadist nuts who beat their women when they get raped.”

OK so they’re convicted felons now, happy? Not that the article at the NYPost actually has any of the details but it does not change my view. They were wrong to do whatever it was that they did but she still bears some responsibility for putting herself in a situation that most reasonable people would say could have the outcome that it did. It’s not rocket science that we’re talking about here.

Also I’m not sure what it is that makes you think that I’m a jihadist, is this something to do with my testicles again or is it some latent homosexual desire to be beaten by a eunuch while screaming rape that is bubbling to the surface? If so please do not include me in your bizarre fantasies, I’m here to argue about the constitution being made into toilet paper and why women should take responsibility for their actions. Thanks.


144 posted on 07/22/2012 9:03:16 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin); trapped_in_LA

Candy’s dandy, but licker’s quicker


145 posted on 07/22/2012 9:12:30 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: bert

Candy’s dandy, but licker’s quicker

I think licker’s spelled wrong, there a a couple of other options to spell it...


146 posted on 07/22/2012 9:24:57 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: trapped_in_LA
“Actually, lots of young people get drunk without sexually abusing others who have passed out.....”

Ever been to a frat party? I get the feeling that you’re beliefs would be badly shaken if you had... just saying.

Not since the early eighties, well before the pornification of society by the internet and cell phone technology, not that it matters.

In a decent society, the stupid, weak or helpless would be safe, even when passed out drunk because young men knew that taking advantage of easy targets did not make them men, but cowards and knaves.

Blaming the weak for the behavior of those who exploit their weakness makes you one as well.

147 posted on 07/22/2012 9:32:27 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

“Such statements as yours are simply excuses for people to misbehave. You are wrong, and your idea is a liberal one.”

Studies show that 12 out of ten dentist prefer rope to waxed thread for flossing. Most of these “scientific studies” are just a bunch of bunk with the conclusion written before any testing was done so I put no real stock in them any more. Or do you buy into all the “global warming” studies as well? And if not why not? I’m reminded of a quote from a great philosopher who had real insight into human nature, “what are going going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?”, Groucho Marx truly was an insightful man.

The fact that I have personally observed as well as participated in any manner of stupid things while drunk is a testament to the common sense fact that drugs (alcohol included) will impair your reasoning skills and lower your inhibitions. It takes a real liberal to ignore common sense and experience and go with the “scientific studies”.

As far as it being an excuse for “misbehaving”, no it is not an excuse but as I said before even an idiot can foresee that there is a much higher probability of bad things happening when you combine a passed out girl, a bunch of horny teenage boys, a video camera and alcohol. If you are the girl in that set you have to be real real stupid to think you’re totally safe. It’s really not that hard so why can’t you see it? But sense a girl was involved you twist into a pretzel to try and absolve her of any responsibility.

So lets take the girl out of the this and try a hypothetical situation. You’re a white dude and you decide to party with some gang bangers from the hood (i.e., their racial makeup is on the darker side of tan). So you go with them to the hood, get drunk and pass out while shouting the N word. The next day they find your lifeless body in the gutter with “cracker” tattooed to your forehead. Now the gang bangers are guilty of murder (that they will plead down to manslaughter) but what responsibility did your own poor choice have in your early demise?

A core conservative principal used to be that people were responsible for their own actions but because a girl was “sexually abused” (hey that’s what they pleaded to) you go all liberal on us true conservatives and get your panties in a bunch over our pointing out that she bears some responsibility for her actions and what happened to her.


148 posted on 07/22/2012 9:40:25 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: rolling_stone

apparently you are not aware of the rule of 65

When you reach 65, spelling is optional.


149 posted on 07/22/2012 9:41:51 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: trapped_in_LA; Valpal1

Ever been to a frat party? I get the feeling that you’re beliefs would be badly shaken if you had... just saying.


How many incapacitated people did you rape at frat parties?


150 posted on 07/22/2012 9:43:21 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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