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To: Girlene

“You are equating a non-violent reaction to drinking (falling asleep) to a violent reaction to drinking (sexual abuse of another person). One is a natural reacton to too much alcohol, the other is not natural. One does not harm anyone else (unless you’re driving!), the other harms another person.

Sleeping!!!! She was passed out! You make it sound like she just put on her PJ’s and tucked herself into bed! She was probably sprawled out on the floor in a pool of her own vomit. Also, I can tell that you have not hung around drunken people before, alcohol lowers inhibitions (which is why traditionally guys have tried to get girls drunk, it makes them easier to have sex with). With lowered inhibitions all sorts of things come to the surface, violence (ever hear of a bar room brawl?), lust and all sorts of inappropriate behavior. So I would say that what happened is entirely “natural” as anyone with a once of common sense would know, which is why traditionally parents kept their girls away from this type of thing.

I have no sympathy for the girl in this case, she knew or should have known what would happen. I also have no sympathy for the boys in this case but to absolve the girl from any responsibility for her actions is just stupid, in the extreme, and will only encourage more of this type a behavior in girls with the predictable results that we see here.


81 posted on 07/22/2012 2:07:10 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: trapped_in_LA
Wow that's a whole lot of conjecture on what she was doing. Have you seen the pictures? And no, sexual abuse, assault, whatever it was, then videotaping it, is not "natural" when someone's drunk.

I have no sympathy for the girl in this case, she knew or should have known what would happen. I also have no sympathy for the boys in this case but to absolve the girl from any responsibility for her actions is just stupid, in the extreme, and will only encourage more of this type a behavior in girls with the predictable results that we see here.

Did you really mean to say that? Absolving her of responsibility? She's been living with the consequences publicly for months. She's got the fortitude to stand up for not only herself, but other possible victims down the line. Yep, this is going to really encourage more young girls to get drunk with their friends, get sexaully assaulted, have it plastered all over, because there was no consequence. HUH?????
90 posted on 07/22/2012 2:46:00 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: trapped_in_LA
Also, I can tell that you have not hung around drunken people before, alcohol lowers inhibitions...

Absolutely 100% false. In fact, dozens of studies (where researchers spiked punch they said was grape juice or gave participants grape juice and told them it was alcoholic) has shown that the only actual effects of large quantities of alcohol are loss of motor control, slurred speech, and impaired reaction time (until you pass out and poison your body). The "lowering inhibitions" crap is just that... crap! The study participants who were given alcohol without knowing it never exhibited a "loss" of inhibitions, whereas the grape juice drinkers acted like drunks.

Such statements as yours are simply excuses for people to misbehave. You are wrong, and your idea is a liberal one.

143 posted on 07/22/2012 8:57:14 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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