Isn't it obvious?
The GOP has gone the way of the Whigs.
Posted on 07/24/2012 4:55:01 PM PDT by robowombat
Isn't it obvious?
The GOP has gone the way of the Whigs.
Nah. “Establishment” is not a lifetime appointment. Neither is it an inherited position.
It *is* time to replace some established GOP leaders - the old fashioned way: political organization and elections.
I believe that is what we are doing with the Tea Party movement. If the author is advocating stopping this effort, that would be foolish and counter-productive.
I’ll vote conservative. Period.
YES, but only after getting Obama out of the White House.
And which party is left if we abandon the gop? The leftist party of obama. What has to be done is to elect local conservatives because that is who grows up to be national office holders.
No. If the GOP loses the Presidential race it is as dead as the Whigs. There will not be any coming back. Obama will rule by Executive Order and IRS goons with the support of his welfare and union clients.
From the article:
“On one side are national security conservatives, myself included, who reluctantly accept the stubborn fact that Islamic supremacist ideology is incorrigibly hostile to America and the West. We take the Muslim Brotherhood at its word that it is seeking to destroy the West and destroy Israel, and that it is doing so based on a divine injunction that is easily traceable to Islamic scripture. We understand that there are other ways of interpreting Islam, and we wish those other ways were predominant. But we believe American national security requires grasping that Islamic supremacism is the predominant Islam of the Middle East; it is the Islam of the Muslim Brotherhood throughout the world, very much including its organizations operating in our own country. We understand that Islamic supremacist ideology inspires not only violent jihad but also non-violent campaigns to supplant Western culture with Islamic culture - such as, for example, the campaign waged by the Organization of Islamic Cooperation and the Brotherhood to restrict free speech; their campaign to have sharia-compliant finance broadly accepted in the West; and their campaign to delegitimize Israel as a “racist occupier” while recasting Hamas, the Brotherhood, and even Hezbollah (a Shiite terrorist organization) as “political parties” and “resistance”).
Much chatter tthat comes down to:
Islam is antithetical to america and is irreconcilable with America.
Therefore:
“Islam Delenda Est” - because of what Islam is, and because of what Muslims do.
Conclusion: Islam is a societal cancer.
Radiation is the answer!
“Is It Time for Defenders of Liberty to Abandon the GOP?”
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Silly question, why ask it if not certain one way or the other....
Most will fall back on the age-old lesser of evil rationale, even knowing the truth...a few, damn few, just go do the right thing...
Semper Watching
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The tea party patriots are essentially the GOP rank and file. We need to take back our party.
We have to dump Boehner, for this and for several other reasons as well. He needs to be “primaried” at the next opportunity.
I will say this, when Romney comes back in January and says “we don’t want to repeal all of Obamacare, there’s some good stuff in there...” then I am out. We can launch our FR party and I’ll be first to sign up.
I already abandoned the Republican party. It’s obvious that real conservatives are not welcome.
“YES, but only after getting Obama out of the White House.”
I think you’re on to something.
Yes, it has to die. Every man jack on this site would love to pull the trigger. But, BUT, BUT WTF is to replace it? Start a Third Party? Some kind of "Conservative" Party? Who the hell would vote for it? All 10 of us? No Way José! Would be like giving Bill Clinton and Congressman Condit your credit card and dropping them off at a whorehouse.
Right now, the Republican Party/Democrat PArty isn't about governing the Republic. It's about Insider Trading, with every one of the too-numerous "bills" larded with amendments which are, each and every one, a pay off. 3 terms in Congress and the most inept lawyer in the olde home town is suddenly a millionaire ... and so is every member of his extended family.
Together, the Feinsteins and the Boxers are BILLIONAIRES! Pelosi? Even more! Reid? from 0 to $25 million we know about. Boehner, Hatch, McConnell ... ditto. Even old hatchet face Olympia is worth $35 Mill. Goes a long way in Maine.
BIG Government is a kleptocracy, and if you think they want to cut in another party, you got another thing coming. The Republicans are the worst. They have traded any pretense of ideology for safe, lucrative seats ... and being in the minority means you never have to say you're sorry.
They ceded control of the government itself to the Democrats in the 1930's and have never looked back. How? How? How to bury the stinking corpse without signing away the entire shebang to the Democrats? That's the conumdrum.
Take over the Republican Party, you say? Well, RINO Romney just did that!
That doesn't mean that I'm not voting for Mittens, even though I detest him. I am, and I know what I'm getting: not 0bama.
bfl
This is hell of a time to abandon the GOP, right before the election. Most of us are pissed our candidate didn’t make it through the primaries as the winner, but is that any reason to throw it over to Obama for another four years? At least with Romney, there is a remote chance of taking back the party. If Obama wins it’s all over.
A simple question, really. Does the Republican establishment speak for me and what I hold to be virtues?
I believe that you all know the answer, don’t you?
Its called doing our civic duty....becoming as politically involved from the Constitutional perspective as the Progressive/Socialist/Communists have been for the last 80 years creating this nasty little mess...
Most conservatives have always fancied they have better things to do.
I would put forth, that until the needed Constitutional things get done to restore the freedoms free markets and free men require, they’ll have plenty of time to devote to politics because there no longer is any way real business can be done under the present circumstances.
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