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To: ynotjjr; cripplecreek; BlackElk; Impy; EternalVigilance; LibLieSlayer; BillyBoy

Ynotjjr, Cripplecreek is a distinguished and well-respected member of this forum with an impeccable record of supporting Conservatives and Conservatism. Your comments to CC were repugnant and vile. If you claim to be remotely Conservative, we’ll tell you that we’re not tossing out everything we believe in to vote for a lying, backstabbing Socialist scumbag like Willard just to “beat” someone who scarcely differs from him. The RINO establishment has given us Conservatives the middle finger for election after election, and we ain’t gonna empower these big government loving dirtbags that stand for everything we oppose. Ya dig ?


161 posted on 07/26/2012 2:57:50 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

WUCK FILLARD... I can dig it!

LLS


170 posted on 07/26/2012 4:19:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I've eached the conclusion that "moderates" are the true purists who would rather have a democrat than a conservative. Sure they talk a good game about unity but only when the candidate is liberal enough for them to support.

As far as encouraging them is concerned, recent news is a perfect example of what happens when "moderates" feel empowered by a moderate nominee. We have sitting GOP congressmen openly endorsing liberal democrats to serve as examples for the rest of us. Republicans are attacking Michele Bachmann for speaking the truth. Where is Mitt Romney while this is going on? Instead of leading as the presumptive nominee, he's cowering somewhere letting the conservatives twist in the wind because he's so afraid of losing his moderate support.

Rush Limbaugh nailed it back in December and we'e on to the moderate game.

VAN SUSTEREN: Why has Governor Mitt Romney not had a so-called "surge"? We hear "surge" used with basically every Republican nominee, but you don't see that "surge" with Governor Romney.

RUSH: Well, every poll I've seen of Republican primary voters, he can't crack 30 percent. It has been curious. And you look at it from the reverse, 70 percent of Republican voters want somebody else. This is why we have the phenomenon of the "Not-Romney." Bachmann was the "Not-Romney" for a while. Herman Cain was the "Not-Romney." Now Newt is the "Not-Romney." I think it boils down to something that's not complicated at all. Republican primary voters are conservative. They don't believe that Romney is. They believe that he will stick a finger in the air and moisten it and see which way the winds are blowing and try to get in that direction. They remember that Romney said he believes in global warming and he believes that man is causing it. Well, conservatives don't believe that. They believe it's a hoax. Conservatives know that the whole story of man-made global warming is a hoax. And they're not going to get excited by a candidate who is trying to gain favor with non-Republican primary voters by articulating that stuff.

Here's the big problem, Greta, for the Republicans. And I am a lone wolf on this. The rule of thumb in elections, both parties, 40 percent are going to vote Democrat automatically, whatever you do, 40 percent are going to vote Republican, automatic, no matter what you do. And in the middle, who do we have? The precious, God love them, independents and the moderates. And they are the targets. They are the focus of every election. And our brilliant campaign consultants tell our candidates they are the ones that know how to go get a majority of those independents. And we have, as Republicans, put ourselves in prison to this whole silly notion that you only win elections by moving to the center and getting great independents. Fine and dandy, but if you squander your base in the process, you haven't a prayer.

The Republican Party is trying to do something in this primary that is unprecedented. They're trying to split the conservative vote and win the primary with a moderate, with Romney. It's the other way around. You consolidate your base and then you move to the center in the general. The Republican establishment has decided they don't want any part of conservatism. And this is really not new. People are surprised to hear this, but the Republican Party formative event with conservatism is Goldwater's landslide defeat. That's what they think of when they think conservative. They don't think Reagan. They think Goldwater.

They believe what the inside-the-Beltway philosophy is about conservatives. They're racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, Southern hayseed hicks. They're pro-lifers. They're embarrassing to have to go to the convention with them. And they're just embarrassed to have those kind of people in the party. They're dumb. They're not erudite. They're not educated in Ivy League schools. We'll take their votes on election day, but we really don't want to hang around with them. We don't want anybody in Washington thinking that we're really that close to them and aligned with them. So in the process -- you know, it's a very sophisticated electorate. The Republican primary voter can sense that the Republican Party really doesn't like them, really doesn't want them, thinks that they are the route to defeat. That's the problem in a nutshell. The Republican establishment thinks that a conservative nominee is the route to defeat because they think Goldwater landslides are going to happen because they believe what the popular misconception the left has created of conservatives -- they think everybody thinks that.


Rush Goes On the Record with Fox News Channel's Greta Van Susteren

They chose this hill they chose to die on and they'll have to find their conscripts elsewhere.
171 posted on 07/26/2012 4:45:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

So what make someone go from being well respected and distinguished to helping the enemy? I’ve read about General Arnold and how he felt slighted and disrespected and how that caused him to work for English. Is it like that?


260 posted on 07/26/2012 10:01:57 AM PDT by ynotjjr (Romney/Rubio 2012 It's called the Constitution. Learn it, live it, love it!)
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