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U.S. backs away from supporting global arms trade treaty
http://turtlebay.foreignpolicy.com/ ^ | July 27, 2012 | Colum Lynch

Posted on 07/27/2012 3:37:39 PM PDT by Steamburg

The United States upended a major international treaty negotiation, telling foreign delegates at the final session today that they needed more time to consider the pact. Some diplomats said that Washington is seeking another six months, pushing off any decision on the politically sensitive treaty until after the U.S. election. Russia, Indonesia, and India also asked for more time.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist
Looks like after the New Orleans Urban League Speech Obama blinked.
1 posted on 07/27/2012 3:37:44 PM PDT by Steamburg
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To: Steamburg

Indonesia’s the real surprise there. Russia has a thriving arms export industry, the Indians are trying to get one going, so those are understandable.


2 posted on 07/27/2012 3:40:30 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Steamburg

We have to make sure that this does not got forward.

No matter what it takes.


3 posted on 07/27/2012 3:40:30 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: Steamburg
Obama will sign it after the election. It is only putting off now so that it can get reelected.

“Some diplomats said that Washington is seeking another six months, pushing off any decision on the politically sensitive treaty until after the U.S. election.”

4 posted on 07/27/2012 3:41:25 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Steamburg

Good news but they only delayed it until Fter the election. Whether Obama wins or loses he will likely sign it at that time.


5 posted on 07/27/2012 3:49:31 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Steamburg

Seems to me that there are a number of other BIG-TIME countries with reservations here...so why pick on the US...unless there’s another agenda involved.


6 posted on 07/27/2012 3:56:54 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Steamburg

A defeated President and a lame duck Senate will have more flexibility. I don’t know what the enforcement section reads like, but the Global Agreement on Trade and Tariffs works like this: Bush put a tax on imported steel to buy votes from Pennsylvania. The treaty allowed us to be taken to a foreign court where we lost the case. The judgment allowed foreign governments to “legally” impose tariffs on our trade goods. The VERY savvy foreigners targeted industries in individual counties that Bush had to have. The attack was sophisticated and effective. Bush, very embarrassingly, I think, rescinded the steel tariff. (I wasn’t in favor of the steel tariff because, although it saved 5,000 steel jobs, it lost an estimated 30,000 other jobs due to the increased price of steel.)

Now, if we get taken to “World Court” and lose the case; say because gun shops in Texas, say, are shown to be selling guns that are finding their way to Mexico (what are the odds?) then, perhaps, individual companies in unrelated industries could, potentially, face the same tariff treatment that Wisconsin cheese suddenly faced. The US economy would be devastated.


7 posted on 07/27/2012 3:59:02 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Howie66

“...No matter what it takes....”

Yup, agree. If that treaty is signed and anyone tries to enforce it here, we’ll have proof of our need for (and use of) the 2nd Amendment.

CW-II will be here in full force.


8 posted on 07/27/2012 4:05:15 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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9 posted on 07/27/2012 4:16:57 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Steamburg

The US needs to get out of the UN. It has become a threat to our liberty.


10 posted on 07/27/2012 4:18:40 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Da Coyote

My thoughts are what UN nation will Obama have come in with troops? Remember in Black Hawk Down the Pakistanis were the major UN forces in Somalia. Would it not be convenient for Obama to have Paki forces on our soil. They would have no qualms about taking down American citizens. IMHO


11 posted on 07/27/2012 4:26:23 PM PDT by crazydad (-` sd)
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To: BobL

“...so why pick on the US...unless there’s another agenda involved.”

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Hell, the US is the ONLY country on the agenda.

The Swiss probably have as many guns per citizen as the US have (and many are fully automatic) and I want to see the UN try to take the guns away from the Yemenis.

Sheesh people, wake up.


12 posted on 07/27/2012 4:30:09 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: saganite

It has always been my opinion that lame duck Presidents and legislators should be prohibited from writing or signing anything.


13 posted on 07/27/2012 4:32:17 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: GenXteacher

There is NOT ONE congresscritter or US politician with the b*lls to even publicly suggest it.

The MSM will be on him/her like flies on crap.


14 posted on 07/27/2012 4:38:40 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: crazydad

Hell, once the Pakis get here, they will shed their uniforms and disappear inside the general population.

You think they want to go back to Pocky-shtan?


15 posted on 07/27/2012 4:42:13 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: crazydad

Hell, once the Pakis get here, they will shed their uniforms and disappear inside the general population.

You think they want to go back to that hell-hole called Pocky-shtan? Why do you think so many are here already?


16 posted on 07/27/2012 4:45:32 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG
You think they want to go back to that hell-hole called Pocky-shtan?

Or get shot in the head by one of 300,000?
Or is that 3,000,000? I'm always misplacing zeros...

17 posted on 07/27/2012 5:41:58 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of NO! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: Steamburg

Best the 500 or so called “Representatives/Leaders” in Washington never forget, thanks to the foresight of our forefathers who wrote the second Amendment, well over 100 Million citizens have guns in this land of the free and home of the brave.


18 posted on 07/27/2012 5:50:51 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Steamburg

Message received.

Guess they are worried about the election but it wouldn’t have mattered anyway.

Never, ever gonna pass the Senate.


19 posted on 07/27/2012 6:00:23 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Steamburg

So after studying polls and focus group results, Obama’s handlers concluded that he had less to lose by screwing his base than by firing up his opposition. The Senate is unlikely to ratify this treaty. Perhaps Senate Democrats have “advised” the WH to defer this so that they can avoid embarassing their own President (or having him force them into electoral suicide).

Americans need to remain vigilant, but Obama’s show of weakness is heartening.


20 posted on 07/27/2012 6:03:32 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Steamburg
Boehner refutes Obama on guns
21 posted on 07/27/2012 6:04:16 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Vendome

You might want to remember that thanks to one of our ratified treaties, any signed treaty has the full force of law until it is voted on in the Senate. Thus, if Harry Reid refuses to take up the bill, the treaty is law and we must then balance it with the Second Amendment through law suit. With the make up of the Court, I don’t like our chances.
Any hesitation means that they deeply fear that the election is not theirs.
We need the Presidency and the Senate in this Election.


22 posted on 07/27/2012 6:12:27 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Steamburg

The world’s going to end soon anyway. The experts tell us of many ways that it will happen. [Little irony and sarcasm there.] Buy low, sell high.


23 posted on 07/27/2012 6:26:45 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: GenXteacher

Liberals are so clever. If we beat them in elections, they can just do it through the UN. We really do need to get out of the UN. It the backdoor to imposing slavery/communism/Islam on our country.


24 posted on 07/27/2012 6:56:24 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Steamburg

Puhleeze .....

Then there is no need for the senate and the president is king in international affairs ....


25 posted on 07/27/2012 7:58:09 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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