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Where Were You in '62?
Townhall.com ^ | July 28, 2012 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 07/28/2012 3:55:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

Fifty years ago, in the summer of 1962, America was a far different place from what it is today. President John Kennedy was presiding over Camelot, and despite fouling up the invasion of Cuba, his approval rating hovered at around 80 percent. Unemployment was 5.2 percent with the average family income at $6,000 a year.

Most Americans did not have much money but made do. Millions bought Elvis Presley's record "Return to Sender" and went to see "Lawrence of Arabia" in movie theaters. At home, "Wagon Train" was the top TV show.

Years later, the film "American Graffiti" featured the ad campaign "Where were you in '62?" Well, I was on Long Island, hanging around. During the day, we swam at the Levittown pool and played stickball in the street, and in August, my father took us to a lake in Vermont. Also, we went to Jones Beach and baked in the sun without block while secondhand cigarette smoke engulfed us on the blanket.

My folks had little disposable income, certainly not enough for air conditioning or a color television set. But again, there was little whining in my working-class neighborhood. We had fun with what was available. Most everybody worked. Nobody was on welfare.

In fact, just 6 percent of Americans received welfare payments in 1962. Now that number is 35 percent. More than 100 million of us are getting money from the government, and that does not count Social Security and Medicare, programs workers pay into. This is a profound change in the American tradition.

Also, we now have close to nine million workers collecting federal disability checks. In 2001, that number was about five million. Here's my question: Is the workplace that much more hazardous than it was 11 years ago? Is our health that much worse?

The answer is no. What we are seeing is the rise of the Nanny State.

Self-reliance and ambition made the United States the most powerful nation on Earth. But that ethic is now eroding fast. Instead, many Americans are looking to game the system, and the philosophy of "where's mine" has taken deep root. About half of American workers pay no federal income tax, leaving the burden to be shouldered by the achievers. As The Edward Winter Group once sang: "Come on and take a free ride. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!"

Presiding over and joyously encouraging this societal shift is the purveyor of social justice President Barack Obama. His entire campaign is now built around making the rich "pay their fair share." And where will that money go? To those in need, of course. And those legions are growing larger every single day.

Fair-minded people do not begrudge a safety net for Americans who, through no fault of their own, need help. A compassionate society provides for those battered by life. But what is happening in this country is far beyond a helping hand. We are creating a dual society. In one corner: Americans who work hard to succeed. In the other corner: folks who want what you have.

And the second corner is the growth industry.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
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1 posted on 07/28/2012 3:55:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

” As The Edward Winter Group once sang: “

That’s, “EDGAR Winter Group”.....


2 posted on 07/28/2012 4:03:27 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Kaslin

In1962 I was 4. My Dad was about to go Vietnam for the 1st of 2 tours. In the 50’s he fought in Korea, in 1941 he was getting breakfast when the Japs invaded Pearl Harbor. My 11 year old sister took care of me for awhile because my Mother had a nervous breakdown. Neighbors pitched in to help us.

Nobody took anything from anybody. You did what you had to do.


3 posted on 07/28/2012 4:06:07 AM PDT by albie
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To: Uncle Ike

I was 12 years old,remember it well. Dad used to go up a ladder to move the antena so we could change chanals on our bw tv. Life was good


4 posted on 07/28/2012 4:08:48 AM PDT by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: TLEIBY308

Riding in the back of a Duke Power bus because my nanny wasn’t allowed in the front.


5 posted on 07/28/2012 4:14:32 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Kaslin

Our national debt was $298.2 Billion on 30 June 1962.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo4.htm


6 posted on 07/28/2012 4:17:14 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: AppyPappy

Not all of the changes in our country have been bad.


7 posted on 07/28/2012 4:18:50 AM PDT by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: Kaslin

Wow.

I remember when 1962 was only 20 years ago when it was still common to see cars from then on the streets and the music wasn’t old enough to even be considered retro.

It was like what 1992 is to today.


8 posted on 07/28/2012 4:21:06 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Kaslin

Playing over a friend’s house (I was five years old then).


9 posted on 07/28/2012 4:23:09 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: TLEIBY308

“Not all of the changes in our country have been bad.”
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Of course, not all change is bad.
I was 18 then, and the country was one hell of a lot better then it is today.
It has been in a steady decline ever since.
I am quite thankful that I have the choice to experience life in other countries.


10 posted on 07/28/2012 4:26:26 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Kaslin
I was in my mommas belly :)
11 posted on 07/28/2012 4:30:52 AM PDT by StayoutdaBushesWay (Every man dies, but not every man really lives.)
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To: Kaslin

I was 6 years old, dad was alive, family was growing, had fun summer with friends swimming and outdoor fun. Transistor AM radio and victrola for music. B/W TV for Saturday AM cartoons. We rode our bikes everywhere—helmets?
Couldn’t play enough baseball.
Rode our sleds in winter and built snow forts .Life was more than good.


12 posted on 07/28/2012 4:31:02 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Kaslin

I was 10 years old and growing up in the lovely, bucolic village of Cranbury, NJ. No color TV, no AC. We played baseball and rode our bikes for fun, cooled off under the sprinkler, walked down to the corner candy store for a treat, or bought a cone or Popsicle from the ice cream truck that came around every evening. Dad made a few thousand a year, first as a milkman delivering milk and cream door to door, and later as a clerk in an office. But we owned our home, never went hungry, and went “down the shore” every year for vacation. It all seems so long ago.


13 posted on 07/28/2012 4:32:55 AM PDT by chimera
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To: AlexW
I was 18 then, and the country was one hell of a lot better then it is today. It has been in a steady decline ever since.

Our standard of living is much higher now than it was in 1962.

How exactly has the country been in decline?

14 posted on 07/28/2012 4:39:20 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: chimera

I was almost 21 and engaged to my future husband


15 posted on 07/28/2012 4:42:19 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: albie
I was a sophomore in high school in 1962. We didn't lock the house when we left to run errands. Didn't have to lock the car in the driveway at night. McDonalds would sell you a burger, fries and a coke for 45 cents. There were no reality shows on TV. Gay was a synonym for happy. I mowed lawns for 5 bucks a pop to earn date money and I had a paper route for 100 homes. You could understand the words to all the popular songs. I never saw anyone with a tattoo. There was no movie rating system. Everybody shopped at family owned businesses downtown. Soda pop bottles could be returned to the store for 2 cents each. I rode my bike all over town when my Dad was using the car. I know exactly where I was when Kennedy was shot. Gas waa 14 cents a gallon. My current girlfriend was Jewish. The next year, I stuffed envelopes for Barry Goldwater's presidential campaign and there weren't any television attack ads.

Now, 50 years later, I'm not so sure I'm better off. After a 25 year career in the Navy and a 15 year second career as a defense contractor, I have retired. Not rich, but comfy. Raised 4 kids through college who are now raising their own families. I have 6 TV's in my house, 3 computers and a GPS in each if my cars. Over 200 channels on the cable box; only a dozen or so are worth sitting in front of. My local newspaper is 50 % advertising and tilts to the left. I'm on my fifth cell phone and only use about 5% of its functions. My annual taxes are roughly 8 times my father's 1962 annual salary.

If I could, I would go back to 1962 in a heartbeat.

16 posted on 07/28/2012 4:42:50 AM PDT by a6intruder (downtown with big bombs, 24/7, rain or shine, day or night)
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To: Kaslin

I was fresh out of college and just starting my career. I had been pretty much apolitical, but became as excited about Jack Kennedy back then as our young people were for Obama in 2008. He turned out to be the only Democrat I ever voted for.


17 posted on 07/28/2012 4:51:40 AM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: Kaslin
"Where Were You in '62?"

Summer '62 -- between Jr. High and High School.
We walked a mile to Jr. High, took the bus to High School.

First kiss in 1962, and yes, I do remember her name.
But I'll never tell... ;-)

18 posted on 07/28/2012 4:54:44 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: a6intruder

I would go back, too. Things weren’t perfect, but a whole lot better than they are today.

If we would have been told what American society would be like in 2012, we never would have believed it. Glad I won’t be here in another 50 years but I dread it for my children (and grandchildren if any).


19 posted on 07/28/2012 4:57:07 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Kaslin

I was 26, a 1Lt in the Field Artillery back from a tour in Korea and stationed at Ft Totten, NY. “Way up north of the Imjin, Guarding freedoms frontiers. We are the first of the First Team, We are the eyes and the ears.”


20 posted on 07/28/2012 4:57:58 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: a6intruder

On this day in 1962 I was preparing to depart Clark Air Base in the Philippine Islands. I was one day short of my 20th birthday.


21 posted on 07/28/2012 4:58:20 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Kaslin

Where was I in ‘62? Out in Hawaii, crapping in my diaper. My dad was stationed at Kanaehoe Bay.


22 posted on 07/28/2012 5:01:38 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: Kaslin

I was in a diaper, running around the ‘cane fields.


23 posted on 07/28/2012 5:03:43 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: moonshot925
Our standard of living is much higher now than it was in 1962.

From a kids perspective, Mom was usually home when we got home from school, we could go anywhere in town just so long as we were home for dinner, when we got sick the doctor would stop by and give us a shot of penicillin, we could entertain ourselves without needing batteries or electric power by using cardboard boxes, sticks, scrap wood, shovels, hammers,etc, we could go to the movies and get candy all day for less than 1 dollar, drive in movies. As a kid I had much more freedom than my kids ever did.

24 posted on 07/28/2012 5:03:52 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Kaslin
In 1962, I was laying flat on my back, an eleven year old kid, with rheumatic fever. Missed half of my summer vacation, and half of my baseball season, because of it. My father would have to carry me from room to room, as the disease affected my legs, more than anything, and I couldn't walk. Thank God, the docs got it under control and was able to have a short, but fun, summer vacation.

So that's what I do in '62! (Just for rhyme's sake)

25 posted on 07/28/2012 5:04:00 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: moonshot925

“Our standard of living is much higher now than it was in 1962.”
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That is quite subjective.
How is the standard of living much higher? From what I see, it is worse.
Is it because you now have cable TV and Internet, or a better car?

I can assure you, public education was far superior then
it is today.
The media was more balanced then it is today.
We did not have an illegal Communist for POTUS.
Premarital sex and homosexuality was in the closet.
Drugs were limited to a small outcast segment of society.
One would never see an illegal immigrant.

I am, of course, speaking only for myself.
If the American culture was as it was in 1980, I would not mind still living there.


26 posted on 07/28/2012 5:05:47 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Kaslin

I don’t begrudge a safety net for people truly in need, but why should that be the government’s business. Charity is a private affair. Once you open the door to government wealth redistribution, aka a safety net, there’s no end of it. Programs always expand. That’s just the way it is. That’s not to say there shouldn’t be a safety net, but that net should come from private entities, like churches, and it should be entirely voluntary.

What you are seeing today is the latter stages of a government controlled safety net. There’s no political will to take the steps necessary to slash it, and it keeps growing as more and more people come to the conclusion it’s foolish to not take advantage of it. Everyone ends up wanting to get their slice while the getting is good, but all they’re really doing is stealing from their neighbors.


27 posted on 07/28/2012 5:06:15 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Bushbacker1; All

Oh, BTW! The number one song during my down time: “Breaking Up Is Hard To Do” by Neil Sedaka! (Lot of radio time)


28 posted on 07/28/2012 5:07:30 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: MuttTheHoople

BTW, I was born out there in 1962, so no jokes about it being my first year of college. I crapped my diapers in college 18 years later. {8^D


29 posted on 07/28/2012 5:07:37 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: Kaslin
1962 was a busy and momentous year for me. I started out my last year in the Marine Corps on the USS Princeton in WestPac. In February, we took a squadron of Army helicopters to a place called Vietnam. In April, we returned with a Marine squadron and a BLT (reinforced). In May, we circled Okinawa for three days, pending whether to invade Hanoi before returning to Long Beach.

Then home for some leave before reporting to MCAS Beaufort, SC. In October, the Cuban Missile Crisis sent my squadron to Key West flying “photographic missions”. Our brand new F8U-2NE’s came back with blackened gun ports and greased missile racks, plus some new holes.

On 31 December,1962 I was honorably discharged from the Marines. That night, I proposed to my future wife. We will celebrate 48 years of marriage in December. 1962 was certainly a busy and momentous year.

30 posted on 07/28/2012 5:08:02 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Kaslin

I was born in the middle of the Cuban missile crisis. My mother was wondering if there would be a home to go to when we left the hospital. Of course that was when you got to stay in the hospital for a week after delivering. Ive been causing trouble ever since!


31 posted on 07/28/2012 5:09:18 AM PDT by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: a6intruder; ilovesarah2012

I disagree.

There have been so many technological advances since 1962.

Huge bulky computers that costed millions of dollars and no internet.

Why would you want to go back?


32 posted on 07/28/2012 5:09:52 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Kaslin

I was 5 years old. We lived on a ranch during the summer, and lived in a really rural and remote town in the winter. The ranch didn’t have electricity, nor plumbing, or phone. We got plumbing in 63 and electricity in 64. My dad had to pay to have the electric wires run to the house. We got a “party line” in 1967.

There was no TV reception (in fact there still isn’t to this day). We had very little money - far less than the average income. I had two school dresses, and a Sunday dress and a couple of pairs of hand-me-down overalls for work and play.

We were our own entertainment. We sang, made candy, played games and worked hard.

Life was better then.


33 posted on 07/28/2012 5:11:13 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: rabidralph
My folks and I had returned to the states after 10 years in Japan. We were there 1951-1961.
In 1961, we had sailed into Oakland on the MSTS ship Gen. W. A. Mann and California looked damned good to me. I was 13.
We caught a cab over to Lane Buick and picked up a 1961 Le Saber station wagon and went home to Iowa.
A year later nothing happened.
34 posted on 07/28/2012 5:11:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: Kaslin

In eighth grade planning to enter the seminary. I ended the year at St. Vincent’s Seminary in Cape Girardeau, MO.


35 posted on 07/28/2012 5:12:32 AM PDT by rwa265 ("This is My Beloved Son, Listen to Him.")
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To: moonshot925
Our standard of living is much higher now than it was in 1962. How exactly has the country been in decline?

Because back then people earned their standard of living. Now the gummint gives it to half of them every month. A family on perpetual welfare today has a higher standard of living than our family did in 1962. We had BW TV, one radio, one phone, a record player, no AC. We just got our first car in 1960.

And now people demand it and we hand it to them out of our own pockets.

It's an attitude decline, not a material decline.

36 posted on 07/28/2012 5:17:36 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: moonshot925
Our standard of living is much higher now than it was in 1962.

I'm not sure that our standard of living is higher now than it was in '62. We have more "stuff" but there is also a decrease in quality of life - working moms, daycare, fast meals.

How exactly has the country been in decline?

If you have to ask that question it shows that you know very little of what life was like in the US in '62.

37 posted on 07/28/2012 5:19:04 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Raycpa; AlexW

In 1962 if I wanted to buy a computer it would cost me millions of dollars.

And the computer I would get would be huge and consume large amounts of energy.

Now I can buy a decent computer for $500 and it will consume much less energy while being smaller and will much more features.


38 posted on 07/28/2012 5:21:20 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

You can’t miss what you never had. I wouldn’t miss the internet because it wasn’t available. We were a much more moral nation then and Susie didn’t have two mommies. My teachers read the Bible in the mornings and said a short prayer. You didn’t have to defend being a Christian. There were no school shootings. TV shows were not trashy. Music didn’t need to be beeped on the radio. Neighbors knew each other and their children played together and no one in my high school was pregnant and the school didn’t have a day care for students’ babies.

I could go on, but I think you get my point.


39 posted on 07/28/2012 5:30:55 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Kaslin

VX-6, McMurdo Station, Antarctica.


40 posted on 07/28/2012 5:31:43 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: a6intruder
We didn't lock the house when we left to run errands.

We didn't lock the house EVER.

Then, right around that time, black and white realtors alike started "blockbusting." (The king of the black realtors was Isaac Haggins. Sumbitch's family is still in business.) They would call up every house on the street and say, "You know, the neighborhood it changing fast. You really want to sell your house now while you can still get something for it. In five years, it will be worth nothing."

If worked. "For Sale" signs outnumbered the dandelions.

Anyway, we sold our house to a nice black couple. The realtor asked for the keys and my dad's jaw dropped. Keys? He had to put new locks on the doors because no one knew where the keys were from when they first bought the house.

41 posted on 07/28/2012 5:34:42 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Kaslin

I was 5 ,walking home . My 10 year old neighbor told me the President was shot and motioned his finger to the back of his head. I shrugged my shoulders and went home to no decent TV for 2 weeks.


42 posted on 07/28/2012 5:36:34 AM PDT by rsobin
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To: Abby4116
I'm not sure that our standard of living is higher now than it was in '62. We have more "stuff" but there is also a decrease in quality of life - working moms, daycare, fast meals.

The quality of life has improved. In 1962 the average life span was 69 years. Now it is 78 years. People are living longer and they are much more healthy thanks to advances in medical care. We have better products at lower cost.

If you have to ask that question it shows that you know very little of what life was like in the US in '62.

You dodged the question.

43 posted on 07/28/2012 5:41:01 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Kaslin
In 2012, all things must be measured by one one metric -- the all-important metric -- "How did this affect black people?"

My answer to this crucial question: Black people were better off in 1962 than they are today.

Safer neighborhoods.
Better school performance.
Stronger family structures.
Lower unemployment.
Stronger church attendance.
More cohesive communities.

Big Government has made all of that go away and given precious little in return.

44 posted on 07/28/2012 5:42:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: a6intruder

“The next year, I stuffed envelopes for Barry Goldwater’s presidential campaign and there weren’t any television attack ads.”

Hmm... how about “Ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one, zero.....KABOOM!”

Anyway, I was thirteen in 1962 and a kid’s life was as described elsewhere on this thread, near Green Bay WI where there was lots of fishing in the summer & and hockey played on any patch of ice in the winter.

Then the JFK assassination the following year, on my birthday. World turned upside down in an instant.

Today I have one cellphone (my wife’s), one TV for news & info, we share a laptop & I refuse to buy a digital cam. I listen to Rush & Glenn on my 1968 Zenith Trans-Oceanic. My car is not fully broken in until I’ve driven it for at least ten years. The only ancient feature missing from our kitchen is Betty Furness.

I-phone? What’s an I-phone?


45 posted on 07/28/2012 5:43:32 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: moonshot925
For you, it seems to just be about shiny toys and technical advances.

I don't think you understand very much about what it means to be a human. Not too surprising, I suppose: Big Government has been sapping away our humanity for about 50 years. More, really.

46 posted on 07/28/2012 5:45:40 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

LOL! What a great story.


47 posted on 07/28/2012 5:45:54 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Kaslin

Graduated from junior college in June, 1962, and had a wonderful summer, preparing to go off to school for the first time in September.

Life was splendid in my little hometown! As I look back, I seldom had a serious thought....life was fun and the living was easy. I was fortunate to grow up in these delightful years.

And we had the best music too!


48 posted on 07/28/2012 5:46:31 AM PDT by jch10 (Fail to the Chief!)
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To: Kaslin

Third year electrical engineering student at Ga. Tech and married for one year. Vacuum tubes were the in thing. Still married to that nice lady after 51 years.


49 posted on 07/28/2012 5:47:03 AM PDT by bytesmith
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To: moonshot925

There is far more material wealth today, including computers, but there is far, far less liberty and a great deal more immorality and incivility. People today act like animals. Even worse, they take pride in it. Things weren’t perfect back then, but at least most people aspired to be something better. Now it’s a mad rush to the bottom, but at least we have computers...


50 posted on 07/28/2012 5:50:17 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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