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Dem lawmakers to announce bill limiting online ammo sales
The Hill ^ | July 29, 2012 | Meghashyam Mali

Posted on 07/29/2012 3:38:40 PM PDT by jazusamo

Two Democratic lawmakers on Monday will announce new legislation to regulate the online and mail-order sale of ammunition.

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (N.J.) and Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (N.Y.) said the new law would make the sale of ammunition “safer for law-abiding Americans who are sick and tired of the ease with which criminals can now anonymously stockpile for mass murder,” in a statement released Saturday.

The lawmakers cite the recent movie massacre in Aurora, Colo. for spurring their bill.

“The shooter who killed 12 and injured 58 in an Aurora, Colorado movie theater this month had purchased over 6,000 rounds of ammunition anonymously on the Internet shortly before going on his killing spree, according to law enforcement officials,” the statement reads. “The shooter used a civilian version of the military’s M-16 rifle with a 100-round drum magazine, a shotgun and two .40-caliber semi-automatic handguns commonly used by police officers.”

Lautenberg and McCarthy, who will unveil their new proposal at New York’s City Hall say they intend to “make it harder for criminals to anonymously stockpile ammunition through the Internet.”

Lautenberg and McCarthy are two high profile advocates of gun control legislation, but they face an uphill struggle in Congress.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said last week that he does not intend to bring gun control legislation to the floor and President Obama has been reluctant to press lawmakers to act on the issue in an election year.

Democratic senators though have offered an amendment to the cybersecurity bill that would limit the purchase of high capacity magazines by some consumers. Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) defended it last Thursday as a “reasonable” gun control measure.

The amendment is identical to a separate bill proposed in January 2011 by Lautenberg also banning the sale of high capacity ammunition magazines.

After the shootings in Colorado, the New Jersey senator urged lawmakers to reconsider his bill.

“We need to start today on efforts to prevent the next attack,” he said in a statement. “We should begin by passing my legislation to ban the sale of high-capacity gun magazines. No sportsman needs 100 rounds to shoot a duck, but allowing high-capacity magazines in the hands of killers like James Holmes and Jared Loughner puts law enforcement at a disadvantage and innocent lives at risk.”

Loughner, the gunman charged in the shooting of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (R-Ariz.) and Holmes, who is the lone suspect in the Aurora theater shootings are both believed to have used high-capacity magazines.


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KEYWORDS: 112th; 2012; agenda; ammo; ammunition; banglist; bloat; congress; democrats; donttreadonme; ecommerce; guncontrol; jamesholmes; liberalfascism; onlinsales; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: editor-surveyor
Absolutely. A Wolf walked into a room from of Sheep, just like the Nazis walked into the Jewish Ghetto. Extreme statement, I think not. I was just talking to my Brother who lives in Colorado. He carries a .45 in his waistband holster and a 9MM in his ankle holster. Living in CA, I envy the Constitution he gets to live by.

He isn't into “Gun Free Zones”, if you know what I mean. He follows the philosophy that “I would rather be judged by twelve than carried by six”.

How amazing it is that people so easily surrender their personal safety and God Given Constitutional Rights to appease the Useful Idiot Citizenry who support Liberal Politicians and their agenda. Only Fairies and Unicorns exist in a Criminal free Utopia.

We were discussing the “ballistic” clothing the Perp was wearing. I think the Rats are trying to outlaw that too.
Even if a round would not penetrate the clothing, that skinny little Perp would have been knocked off his feet while peeing his pants had anyone even winged him.

Just ranting. I hate Democrat, Liberals and everything they stand for. I'll blame my Brother for getting me all fired up. LOL

61 posted on 07/29/2012 5:05:39 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Commie is an Impeached Commie.)
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To: jazusamo

You know, I hear tell that on the world market, AKs can be had for $10 each. Is this true?


62 posted on 07/29/2012 5:09:49 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Da Coyote
Indeed. In fact, in case of such there would very likely be Unintended Consequences . . .
63 posted on 07/29/2012 5:11:44 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Victor
Jeez....right about now I wish I owned an online ammo site like Cheaper than Dirt. I'd make a fortune!!!

I went to the gun show today, here in Miami. HUGE show and packed tighter than any I've seen in recent memory. Sales looked brisk. Ammo was a decent price too. Especially the 45 and 9mm that I saw. I wasn't in the market for that having made a bulk buy of shooting ammo a few weeks ago. But I did pick up some 45 Colt, 454 Casull and 460 magnum for my XVR 460. Those prices were excellent. Even better than online and I didn't need to pay shipping or wait for delivery. It's nice to have a heavy caliber revolver that fires three distinctly different calibers. That's what I call DIVERSITY!

64 posted on 07/29/2012 5:15:05 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: jazusamo

So the next nut case will have bought all the ammo locally. How many lives would that have saved?


65 posted on 07/29/2012 5:19:44 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: jazusamo
The hype about him buying 6000 rounds is just that, hype, plus it was legal and those rounds could have been bought at a retail outlet or at a gun show.

Duh, that's why we need to limit sales of ammo *everywhere* (step 2 of the game plan)

66 posted on 07/29/2012 5:21:09 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: funfan

First off, these assholes never give up. Lautenberg, surprised that walking mummy is still walking. MCCarthy, another joke.

I guess I see now why the NRA supported Reid in the election.


67 posted on 07/29/2012 5:30:27 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: RicocheT

Pump shotguns like the 870 he used generally take at least 5 shells in the magazine. Many take 8.


68 posted on 07/29/2012 5:37:46 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: 1malumprohibitum
F ing a$$hats. Yes he bought 6 k rounds, but was he carrying 6 k rounds? Did he shoot 6k rounds?

Don't try to use logic. They are Democrats, the antithesis of anything logical.

69 posted on 07/29/2012 5:48:11 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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70 posted on 07/29/2012 5:52:48 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: jazusamo

It’s best to pay cash anyways.


71 posted on 07/29/2012 5:53:28 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Da Coyote

Yep, or make it illegal to fly planes into buildings.
Or, how about make it illegal to use box cutters as weapons?


72 posted on 07/29/2012 5:55:48 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: jazusamo

Why do the Dems not want Americans with guns?????? New World Order!!!!!They want to control all the people..... SCREW EM!!!!


73 posted on 07/29/2012 5:58:53 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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To: jazusamo

The corollary to my tag line, of course, is you can’t have too much ammunition.


74 posted on 07/29/2012 5:59:31 PM PDT by gunsmithkat (There is no such thing as Too Many Guns)
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To: jazusamo
“We need to start today on efforts to prevent the next attack,” he said in a statement. “We should begin by passing my legislation to ban the sale of high-capacity gun magazines. No sportsman needs 100 rounds to shoot a duck, but allowing high-capacity magazines in the hands of killers like James Holmes and Jared Loughner puts law enforcement at a disadvantage and innocent lives at risk.”

Come on, now. Do you even use a rifle to shoot ducks? Most of the duck hunters I know use shotguns.

I suppose there might be somebody out there bagging waterfowl with a rifle, but I honestly think they'd be an exception, not the rule.
75 posted on 07/29/2012 6:15:48 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Red Steel

Thank you. I have been saying this for many years now. The North Hollywood shootout involved drum magazines as well - cheap, unreliable magazines that are prone to jam. If this shooter had been using standard 30 round magazines, the damage would’ve been much worse. 100 round magazines (and even 50 round magazines) are novelty items and nothing more. The military doesn’t use them because they are garbage.

In this case, high-capacity magazines saved lives.


76 posted on 07/29/2012 6:32:42 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: Victor

A bit hard to fathom that folks don’t already have thousands in each caliber they need, and a few thousand in other calibers for barter.


77 posted on 07/29/2012 6:37:51 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: ctdonath2

Actually, just boxcutters.


78 posted on 07/29/2012 6:53:26 PM PDT by jimjohn
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To: jazusamo
Typical “don't let a (manufactured) crises go to waste” legislation. Why target a small group of criminals when an entire nation can have it's natural right to self-defense against tyrants infringed.
79 posted on 07/29/2012 7:15:34 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I bet they both used the Interstate Highway System in some way connected with their crimes, too! And the Internet!

Idiots like these Congresscritters and this reporter need to buy a clue.


80 posted on 07/29/2012 7:43:15 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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