Posted on 08/01/2012 4:57:20 AM PDT by marktwain
Private sales and purchases for cash are perfectly legal in Florida, as they are in most states.
>> unwanted, operational firearms
That right there is the mother of all oxymorons.
Make it $5000 and I’ll buy a few throw-downs and bring them down there!
>> The only problem I see, [Karl Tozzi, one of two Democrats running against Fleming] said, is that we should not...have a cap on the number of funds we are allocated to take the weapons of the street.”
ROFLMAO! Is that a perfect example of how ‘rats think about government money, or what? No cap on outgoing funds! We’ll run the printing presses all NIGHT if need be!
My grandfather’s 12 gauge is worth more than a $50 gift card. It’s worth more than any monetary gift to me.
Hey sheriff, I’ll give you 50 bucks for that .45 you got there on your hip.
That depends on what the manufacturer’s definition of “operational” was - something like a Jennings .380 is likely to blow up in your hand if you fire it. :P I wouldn’t want one. :P
This doesn’t sound right?It looks like they will destroy these working firearms to keep them out of circulation.Every time a working firearm is destroyed,think of it as one of your RIGHTS being rescinded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL! Darn! You beat me to it!
I believe that you are mistaken. If the gun was found to be stolen, you would be required to return it. I have never seen anyone prosecuted for mere possession of a gun that turned out to have been stolen, when they otherwise bought it legally. How could you know it was stolen or not?
I would have not had any problems with buying guns on the free market.
Many of the pre-1968 rifles and shotguns do not even have serial numbers.
Oh I don't know about that. I have an Omega .22 Saturday night special from the 1960s. It shoots, but if I lived near Flagler County or was viviting Flagler County, I would make a point of sell that little POS to the Sheriff. Fifty bucks? $50.00? Maybe not. Never mind.
Do they take any gun?
I’m sure I could make several crude zip guns in my garage for a lot less than $50 each, and I doubt anyone is going to want to test them to make sure they’re “operational”.
In the state of Florida, if you are in POSSESSION of a stolen or serial removed gun, you are liable. This was covered with great emphasis in the CCW class I attended.
What you do is to collect the serial number off the gun and ask to have the numbers run before finalizing the deal. Simple as that. Every officer has access to the database on his mobile computer.
Rifles and shotguns I cannot answer to but handguns do have serials. I have a S&W 32 revolver manufactured in 1912 that has a serial. Any M1A/M14 has a serial.
The point was be careful and cover yourself. If buying from an individual make sure you get an ID like a DL and then go to the police to have the serial checked.
They might as well put up a big sign - Notice to all burglars, these pansies will be unarmed upon exiting the parking lot and most will be headed directly to their unsecured residences.
Shot someone with that gun last year?
Tired of hiding it in your closet?
Well Hell Bell’s give it to the Police and get a gift card!
(The only problem I see, Tozzi said, is that we should not cap the quantity of guns per person nor should we have a cap on the number of funds we are allocated to take the weapons of the street. )
This is the problem you see? Nothing else?
Going through life stupid must be a bitch.......
On another note. Marines make deal for Colt 1911’s.
Mazda77 wrote:
In the state of Florida, if you are in POSSESSION of a stolen or serial removed gun, you are liable. This was covered with great emphasis in the CCW class I attended.
Marktwain replies:
Certainly, if you are in possession of a firearm whose serial number has been removed, you have legal problems.
This is not the case if you are in possession of a firearm that you obtained under the reasonable belief that it was legal to do so.
I have taught CCW classes for over 15 years, and it is not unusual for people to mistakenly put out misinformed opinion as if it were the law.
Here is some light on Florida law from a police officer forum:
“I work as an LEO in a low income area and have been dealing with a surge in bike thefts (not motorcycles) among other things recently. I’m looking to add another tool to my belt and start taking individuals who are ridding these bikes to jail. As we all know you can’t take someone to jail for a misdemeanor (not an exception) that does not occur in your presence (i.e. the original bike theft). Unfortunetely, the victims are claiming their bikes are only worth $150 (not that magic felony number). I’ve tried reading the 812 statues and can’t find any penalty for possession of stolen property. According to 812.022 the criteria appears to meet what I’m look for (but no penalty is listed). Maybe I need glasses, but if anyone could help it would be appreciated.”
http://forums.officer.com/t148911/
There is considerable discussion after this request, but it comes down to the fact that you cannot prosecute someone for merely possessing a legal object that they reasonably thought they obtained legally.
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