Posted on 08/09/2012 10:20:31 PM PDT by Nachum
Detroit - A small battery company backed by General Motors is working on breakthrough technology that could power an electric car 100 or even 200 miles on a single charge in the next two-to-four years, GM's CEO said Thursday. Speaking at an employee meeting, CEO Dan Akerson said the company, Newark, Calif.-based Envia Systems, has made a huge breakthrough in the amount of energy a lithium-ion battery can hold. GM is sure that the battery will be able to take a car 100 miles within a couple of years, he said. It could be double that with some luck, he
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Call me when its 1000 miles or a full week of normal driving in all weather.
Build a small trailer with a second bank of batteries and with a small generator that will charge either bank while you are traveling.
But of course the anal retentive morons don’t want the cloud of petroleum stink following their electrical icon of green success.
And can't you just imagine car enthusiasts in 80 years searching the world for Volts they can restore and drive in the May Day parade? Or during Obama's Birthday Week?
I think that's a key issue. Batteries just can't be trusted over time. Properly cared for they decline at a sort of predictable rate but drain them too much and all bets are off. At least with an 18 gallon gas tank you basically know how far you'll go today, tomorrow and 5 years from now.
I love it! THAT belongs on a T-shirt.
Put your research and money on something that will really sell, like a more powerful battery for smartphones.
As a wise man once said, "You know what runs on batteries? Toys!"
I’ll take an electric SUV, and a pair of linesmans chaps with climbing spikes, a step down dry transformer, electrical cables with clamps.
So when gas is $40 a gallon and can only be bought if you have a security clearance my SUV will run around from power taken straight off a utility pole from a secure location.
Now I am actually beginning to see some merits of having a hybrid, much easier to gain access to electrical than a fuel storage tank.
Thats right. I knew it was one of those POS...
The left can go well over 100 miles on a charge...
(on the back of a tow truck on it’s way to a charging station)
Better off with a hybrid right now.
Huh? I guess if they have a gun to your head and drag you down to the Toyota or Chevy dealership and make you sign on the dotted line maybe..
The RTO on a hybrid is insane. you have to put 200,000+ miles on it to break even over a comparable gas car.
If I could get 1500 pounds of tools, equipment, spare parts in it and a 12ft and 24ft ladder on the roof of something that was reliable and proven technology..
I’d buy a Volkswagen TDI.
I’ll start it off with,
“Juice Monkey on My Back”
Lord help me
I got the twelve volt blues
I got two tons of junk
That I just can’t use
Don’t pull the plug on me baby
...
Feel free to add more verses
Damn, you’re getting good mileage! And I bet your car carries more than a gallon per trip. Point is, on the Volt only 35 miles attributed to the battery charge, the rest is gasoline - so why not just go gasoline alone with a car, lots cheaper to make a regular car.
That is fairly normal for a pre-bailout 3.8 powered GM. An engine that can have it’s history traced back to the 60’s.
My father has a 02 Buick with the 3.8 in it and gets mid 30’s on the highway. He’ll tell you all day long how comfortable it is and gripe about the mileage (huh?!??!?) he had a $hitbox caviler with a 5 speed before. It’d give ya high 30’s on the highway, but what a joy that thing was to drive (NOT!). I always joked it was on the weight reduction program. If a part was not in the process of falling off there was always a new rust through spot.
“I know we talk a good game, and I do include myself in there, but are FReepers saying they would never again purchase a new Corvette? Does that mean that after 2009 or whenever the exact bail out timing was, we should never purchase another GM car of a vintage after the bailout?”
I won’t buy a GM or anything else the UAW makes. I don’t want to buy a car made by people that hate their company (i.e., union people), and simply want to screw “the man”, as they see it.
When the UAW and the other unions leave GM, I’ll consider their cars again. But, for now, there’s plenty of selection without getting that attitude.
“Get back to us when you hit 400-500 miles per charge. And the charge is finished in 60 minutes.”
And you’re being generous. It only takes my car about 5 minutes to get another 500 mile “charge”.
Get that means my next trip home to see mother will only take 4-7 days depending on 100 or 200 miles per charge and expecting the recharge time of 12 hours. I’ll get there just intime to return home before my 2 week vacation is over.
I’ll stick with my Saturn Vue with which I got 32 mpg on my latest trip to see mother.
It’s not all about the number of miles per charge, but also the amount of TIME it takes to RE-CHARGE.
Even if a 200 mile battery was available right now, if it takes 8 hours or more to re-charge it’s not going to make me rush out to buy one.
If I had to drive to my wife’s mother’s house in Melbourne, a nine hour trip by gasoline car, it would take a couple of days by electric vehicle, even assuming we could find a charging station ever 200 miles.
Nice try GM, but until you get the input side fixed they ain’t gonna sell...........
What makes you think there will be any electricity on that pole? If gasoline is $40 a gallon, then nobody can afford the electricity any more. Coal will be banned from use. Nuclear will be shut down. Natural Gas will be still available, but only to party apparatchiks, not to the common man. Solar, wind and geothermal will be a joke, and the greenies will be tossed aside because they are no longer 'useful idiots', just merely idiots............
Well, I’d argue for diesel, but otherwise, yes!
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