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There is no California
Townhall.com ^ | August 16, 2012 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/16/2012 3:46:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Travis McGee

I agree.

This is just another example of Liberals preference for equality of outcomes over equality of opportunity.

Much can be learned from failure, as I can attest to in my own life. The best lessons are usually the hard ones. Watching a fool can often help us avoid being a fool.


41 posted on 08/16/2012 6:12:57 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Kaslin

Mexico will eventually take the American southwest without firing a shot...


42 posted on 08/16/2012 6:13:55 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: napscoordinator

We (in California) used to have a part-time Legislature, ‘corrected’ if I am not mistaken, by Governor MoonBeam (first round). If legislators came for a vote and LEFT Sacramento to work real jobs, a whole lot could be changed. And the state would be flush.


43 posted on 08/16/2012 6:16:31 AM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: napscoordinator
California needs to be fixed. They are the 8th largest World Economy. America cannot afford to let California die. We obviously can’t afford to let them go down the road they are on. Something drastic has to be done....what is that? I wish I knew. But the bottom line is, We cannot allow them to fail!!!!

Gorbachev once said this about Russia. What emerged, however flawed, was better.

Let CA crash and burn.

44 posted on 08/16/2012 6:17:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I love the Universe, and it loves me.)
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To: Mister Da

California deserves to eat its lunch. The LIBs are fools. There is nothing like a beaten-down fool. They must learn from their mistakes. Can you believe these Cali fools reelected Governor Moonbeam??????


45 posted on 08/16/2012 6:18:08 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Mister Da
I imagine Jerry Brown is PRAYING for a major earthquake.

You CANNOT petition the Lord Satan with prayer!

46 posted on 08/16/2012 6:18:40 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: napscoordinator

California needs to be fixed. They are the 8th largest World Economy. America cannot afford to let California die. We obviously can’t afford to let them go down the road they are on. Something drastic has to be done....what is that? I wish I knew. But the bottom line is, We cannot allow them to fail!!!!


Are you kidding? That’s the beauty of federalism...allow the states to experiment. Some will fail in their efforts and others will prosper in theirs. If CA continues on the same path, there will be an even further exodus of the “producing class” and the state will go bankrupt.

The 40 year decline of Detroit should serve as an stark example to the voters of CA.


47 posted on 08/16/2012 6:23:13 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: napscoordinator
We cannot allow them to fail!!!!

Yeah, we can ... gleefully.

ex-socal dweller

48 posted on 08/16/2012 6:24:56 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: Kaslin

My wife and I took a trip through parts of California two years ago. We drove out of the Sierras after visiting Yosemite through Fresno, Bakersfield, and other desert towns. (Actually, we were on the interstate, so we didn’t really see a lot of those towns.) I still remember driving into Barstow on old Rte. 66 coming back from Victorville. Southwest Barstow looked like it had been hit by a tornado. Junky houses and trash everywhere. I wonder what it looked like when the song first came out back in the forties.


49 posted on 08/16/2012 6:37:14 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: napscoordinator

We cannot allow them to fail!!!!

We cannot allow California to extort the rest of the states, most of whom try to live within their means and balance their budgets.

Are you saying that there should be no expectation of responsibility from California. Why should California even worry about spending and their deficit if they are rewarded with “we cannot allow them to fail” speech? We sure as heck can allow them to fail. That’s the only thing that will save the state. California legislature needs a massive failure on their hands before anything will improve.


50 posted on 08/16/2012 6:44:40 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: napscoordinator
yes. California is too big to fail /s
Ca is becoming nothing more than a suburb of mexico city
51 posted on 08/16/2012 6:46:06 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: napscoordinator

“America cannot afford to let California die. “

“Too big to fail” is a dumb idea.


52 posted on 08/16/2012 6:49:54 AM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: Jacquerie

I think that may have been a federal court, and Gray Davis refused to appeal.


53 posted on 08/16/2012 6:51:06 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: Aevery_Freeman

No, I was agreeing with your statement to napscoord.


54 posted on 08/16/2012 6:52:06 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Kaslin
..McCain lost in '08 by nearly 24 points

The demographics and political ideology have shifted even further to the left since then

This isn't even close to the California that GHW Bush won in '88

It has to come to an end at some point--Texas, take note how big liberal cities can destroy the rest of the state...

55 posted on 08/16/2012 7:30:08 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: SueRae
No California, only Mexifornia.


56 posted on 08/16/2012 7:33:55 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: napscoordinator
But the bottom line is, We cannot allow them to fail!!!!

I respectfully disagree. What are the real downsides to a bankrupt California? As a state, it would suck to live there. They ran a failed model and now they want a bailout. The purpose of Federalism is to allow the states to pursue different options: good, bad, or indifferent. But it would be better for the country if they do fail rather than draining the coffers of everyone else. Most of the productive people/businesses would move and so it would not greatly impact federal revenues.

Let them be the ultimate bad example... no one is too big to fail and you better get your house in order because the rest of us aren't going to pay for your stupid policies! Unless we let states fail they know that bailouts are always right around the corner.

57 posted on 08/16/2012 7:40:55 AM PDT by WileyC
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To: Kaslin
I am in Sacramento this week, and the downtown is deserted.

Maybe it is due to the August recess, but it is really dead.

Three tables were sat at The Broiler steak house last night - being from Texas I am not used to seeing any restaurant that dead, even on a Wednesday.

A harbinger of things to come?

58 posted on 08/16/2012 7:43:36 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Kaslin

CA should be allowed to fail, if nothing else, to act as a testament to the rest of the nation. A failure of a large economy, large states are not unprecedented. The Civil War left the South in ruins for generations, but overall, the nation as a whole still grew economically. But unlike the South, CA will have no one to blame but itself.


59 posted on 08/16/2012 7:43:46 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: WileyC

General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy — Again
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Bailouts have worke so well ever where else... Just a few more wind farms , a super- train , and more plastic bag bans, and CA be the 3rd largest economy in the galaxy!


60 posted on 08/16/2012 8:01:08 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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