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President Obama, Mitt Romney Agree: Gay Boy Scouts OK
ABCNews.com ^ | Aug 8, 2012 8:39pm | Devin Dwye

Posted on 08/18/2012 10:33:30 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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They can say what they want: no responsible parent will permit his/her young boy to stay in the company of a homosexual scout leader. If homosexuality is forced on the Scouts by an ALL POWERFUL STATE, the Scouts are finished. As an independent institution that fosters love of God, Country and our way of life, I can understand why Obama and the the modern democrat party want to destroy the Scouts. But why would Romney want to do so?
61 posted on 08/18/2012 12:29:26 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Finny
The GOP-e wanted Dewhurst, instead, we sent them Cruz...in a landslide. And Texas isn't the only one. Conservatism is alive and well. It's just that most conservatives realize our choices are confined to those who actually apply for the job, not some mythical unicorn perfect candidate somewhere off in the near and/or far future.

W didn't kill conservatism...nor did McCain (see the 2010 nationwide election results). Romney will never be able to kill off conservatism. It's just not that damn fragile.

Sorry...there is no scenario wherein 4 more years of Obama somehow magically advances the cause of conservatism...unless you include the word abracadabra. Reality...it's not just for TeeVee.

62 posted on 08/18/2012 12:34:48 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: P-Marlowe

“I can’t believe the GOP nominated this faggot”

and your proof for this charge is what? how many sons have you fathered ? name calling over the internet shows real manly courage, right? stop projecting your own fears on others. you and SoConPubbie are all members of the i’d rather have 4 more years of BO club.

God Save America from 4 more years of BO.


63 posted on 08/18/2012 12:39:38 PM PDT by IWONDR
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To: Finny; sickoflibs
And you'll still be voting FOR more liberalism. Voting "against" Obama is a false pretense, strictly imaginary. In Realville, you only get to vote "for."

I'm voting FOR weakening the mandate of whichever liberal wins -- every third party vote reduces the popular mandate percentage of the winner. You're voting FOR making liberalism more powerful in both parties, whether you mean to or not.

This is Realville, where you only get to vote "for" and where voting for a liberal guarantees a bad outcome. I'm voting to WEAKEN liberalism. You're voting to make it stronger.

thanks finny, ive been searching my ballot to find that 'against' option for my entire voting life...

now comes the terrified screams of how it will only 'help' bambam...

64 posted on 08/18/2012 12:40:46 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Well, either Romney or Obama will be our next president. Choose your poison.

Or choose to weaken whichever poison wins. You can do that, too, though in doing, you forfeit any say in whether Obama or Romney gets the White House. For me, it's like forfeting any say in whether I get Coke or Pepsi in a restaurant.

The one thing you cannot do is vote "against" either one of them -- voting "against" is imaginary, a sophistry. You can only vote FOR in elections. I'll be voting FOR giving the next liberal president a plurality. Those who vote for Romney will, like those who vote for Obama, be voting FOR making liberalism stronger. On the other hand, my third-party vote will be FOR denying a mandate to whichever liberal wins. My vote will be FOR making liberalism weaker.

65 posted on 08/18/2012 12:45:03 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Knocked it out of the park sir.


66 posted on 08/18/2012 12:46:06 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: little jeremiah
I hope for an UTTER REVOLT at the convention.
"Hey, it could happen!" --Angels in the Outfield, 1994
67 posted on 08/18/2012 12:46:13 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: IWONDR

Homosexuals are not incapable of fathering children. Men who have an unhealthy admiration for people who practice sodomy tend to be proned to engage in said behavior on occasion.


68 posted on 08/18/2012 12:46:44 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Finny

“The one thing you cannot do is vote “against” either one of them — voting “against” is imaginary, a sophistry. You can only vote FOR in elections. I’ll be voting FOR giving the next liberal president a plurality. Those who vote for Romney will, like those who vote for Obama, be voting FOR making liberalism stronger. On the other hand, my third-party vote will be FOR denying a mandate to whichever liberal wins. My vote will be FOR making liberalism weaker.”

A-men. I’ll be voting for Goode as well. He’s the only one on the ballot opposed to gay marriage.


69 posted on 08/18/2012 12:50:00 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Godwin1
Because Romney IS a "modern Democrat," as his record wholly illustrates and confirms, though he's registered in the Republicam party. It behooves the GOP to scare you to death regarding Obama in order to get you to vote for a modern Democrat registered as a Republican.

Fear is a master tool of manipulation. The hysteria whipped up in "We cannot survive another four years of Obama!" is an attempt to manipulate Americans into surrendering to liberalism.

70 posted on 08/18/2012 12:50:59 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
...not some mythical unicorn perfect candidate somewhere off in the near and/or far future.

STOP with the sophistries, pal. They reveal you to be deceptive and manipulative via deceit -- no one here, not ONE SINGLE FREEPER, is demanding a "perfect candidate," and YOU KNOW IT.

Since your foundation is built on complete crap, the rest of your post is probably just as empty, so I'll save myself the aggravation of reading it. Try posting HONESTLY if you want to engage in debate.

71 posted on 08/18/2012 12:55:33 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Gilbo_3
...now comes the terrified screams of how it will only 'help' bambam...

... which of course, is as much a figment of the imagination as voting "against" Obama. A third party vote favors NEITHER major party candidate. It is entirely neutral -- except in that it weakens both major party candidates when it comes down to computing the percentage of their total popular vote.

Obama is in big trouble in the polls; millions who voted for him last time will reject him this time. There is virtually zero risk that he could get a majority of the vote, so declining to vote for Romney and instead voting FOR a plurality via third party, is a darned good gamble for protecting America from a Romney "mandate" at the risk of re-electing a weak, embattled, despised, majority-opposed Obama.

Entitlement thinking -- that the Republican party is entitled to any conservative's vote and always has been -- is the ONLY rationale for thinking "a vote for anyone other than Romney is a vote for Obama." And it is a false rationale engaged in by people who need to demonize those of us who refuse to vote the way they want us to.

72 posted on 08/18/2012 1:06:16 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: SoConPubbie

When you are 11 years old (the age to enter Boy Scouts) does everyone know what sexual orientation they are? I’m not gay but at 11 I didn’t even think about it. Of course growing up in the 50’s may have led me not to think about it.


73 posted on 08/18/2012 1:07:46 PM PDT by Starstruck (Only the wealthy and the poor can afford socialism)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Thank you!


74 posted on 08/18/2012 1:09:26 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: SoConPubbie
The Boy Scouts of America are a private association. They can decide who they want as scout leaders. And they have decided not to let perverts play around with the boys. In fact, they are extremely determined to not let the perverts in. They take very careful steps in the training of their leaders.

The government has absolutely NO RIGHT to dictate to a private association who they can and who they can not allow into their organization.

75 posted on 08/18/2012 1:09:39 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Finny
Fear is a master tool of manipulation. The hysteria whipped up in "We cannot survive another four years of Obama!" is an attempt to manipulate Americans into surrendering to liberalism.

Good grief! After 4 years of Obama's race baiting, Holder's "Justice" Dept. nationalizing voter fraud franchises, Napalitano's HHS's open hostility to religious freedom, the EPA's open war on business, the Middle East handed over to the Muslim Brotherhood...offering Israel as a sacrificial lamb, on and on and on...if you don't have some healthy hysterical fear of what this administration will do when it doesn't have to run for reelection...you're insane.

76 posted on 08/18/2012 1:14:45 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Finny

Your third party vote will be purely symbolic. All third party votes in 2000, 2004, or 2008 in the end meant nothing.


77 posted on 08/18/2012 1:15:46 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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78 posted on 08/18/2012 1:23:14 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
All third party votes in 2000, 2004, or 2008 in the end meant nothing.

The clueless environmentalists, voting Green Party candidate Ralph Nader on "principle", sucked enough votes away from the "not pure enough" environmentalist Al Gore to elect W. Irony is funny when it's the other guy.

79 posted on 08/18/2012 1:24:19 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Liberty4ever
To me the article is deceptive. Aren’t they taking statements that Romney made in 1994 and saying this is his position today.

From the article:

Romney first voiced support for gay scouts back in 1994 — a position that his campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said remains his position today.

80 posted on 08/18/2012 1:34:45 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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