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Billionaire Koch brother breaks from GOP, backs gay marriage
FOX News ^ | Aug 31 2012 | Joseph Weber

Posted on 08/31/2012 5:45:45 PM PDT by scottjewell

Billionaire businessman David Koch has helped direct millions to Republican candidates but he disagrees with the party on gay marriage.

The Libertarian-minded Koch -- whose brother, Charlie, also is a big GOP supporter -- made the remarks Thursday on the sidelines of the Republican National Convention. "I believe in gay marriage," the 72-year-old Koch told Politico.

He was in Tampa as a New York delegate and to attend an event held by Americans for Prosperity -- the political advocacy group he helps fund and lead.

(Excerpt) Read more at politics.blogs.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012election; americans4prosperity; election2012; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; kenyanbornmuzzie; kochbrothers; mittromney; swrdswllwngsdshw

1 posted on 08/31/2012 5:45:53 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Media accuses the Republican Party of the being the party of the rich anyway, in 5, 4, 3...

Thanks scottjewell.


2 posted on 08/31/2012 5:48:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: scottjewell

So. Republican nominee supports homosexual adoption, next step marriage.


3 posted on 08/31/2012 5:53:10 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: scottjewell

Oh great......more money going to the gay movement. Wish I was rich.


4 posted on 08/31/2012 5:53:47 PM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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To: scottjewell

This is an attempt to change the subject.

As long as Koch pushes good economics, he can think how he wants.

Has he given money to promote sodomy? As far as I know he hasn’t.


5 posted on 08/31/2012 5:55:23 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: scottjewell

David Koch can’t reason-—being swayed by Marxists who want children to be objects to be sold or bartered and denied their natural rights to their loving biological parents. He wants women reduced to breeders.

How utterly evil such warped “thinking” is. Homosexuality is so extremely sexist. All homosexual societies—like the Samurai-—also practiced pederasty—since it is a learned behavior. Hopefully, David has no little boys whose minds can be warped like those little boys in harems in Afghanistan. Homosexuality is a perversion of nature. It is sooo obvious.


6 posted on 08/31/2012 5:55:38 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: scottjewell

Strategic deflection.

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.
Sun Tzu

All war is deception.
Sun Tzu


7 posted on 08/31/2012 5:56:20 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: scottjewell

>> “I believe in gay marriage,” the 72-year-old Koch told Politico.

And all the persecutory statism that comes along with it.

Libertarian my ass. If this moron had any sense, he’d argue the state does not belong in the marriage business.


8 posted on 08/31/2012 5:57:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: scottjewell

I thought he was the 3rd brother?


9 posted on 08/31/2012 5:57:28 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: scottjewell

Has the idiot David considered that if his parents were not one male and one female that he might not exist today?

Some billionaires are knuckle-dragging stupid.


10 posted on 08/31/2012 6:02:30 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: scottjewell

Koch brothers, Clint Eastwood and Romney have pro gay marriage in common.


11 posted on 08/31/2012 6:03:19 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: svcw

He’s hardly the only big donor out there who supports gay Marriage. Sheldon Adelson makes good money off his wedding chapels that perform the farce. (A gay acquaintance of mine got “married” at a Venetian chapel.)

Of the big money donors from this election cycle, Foster Freiss appears to be the most conservative and he’s pretty squishy on border control.


12 posted on 08/31/2012 6:05:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Zeneta

“Strategic deflection.”
Most likely. It would be a wise tactic.

OTOH there’s been a “what’s the use of being rich if you can’t indulge your sexual perversions...” attitude since long before Caligula.


13 posted on 08/31/2012 6:06:37 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Gene Eric

Yes, exactly.


14 posted on 08/31/2012 6:07:19 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: svcw

Yes, that is the logical next step.


15 posted on 08/31/2012 6:09:16 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Fiscal conservatives usually end up being neither...

Cannot tell the difference between a Koch and a Soros...this is getting bad


16 posted on 08/31/2012 6:11:47 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When is Fox News gonna fire Karl Rove?)
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To: Gene Eric

Exactly.


17 posted on 08/31/2012 6:12:06 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: savagesusie

That’s what gets me angry at the mega-rich people and celebrities who come out for gay marriage with a casual “who’s it going to hurt?” attitude - inexcusably naive and unthinking about children, religious freedom, the social order, young people, the cultural structure....


18 posted on 08/31/2012 6:12:20 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Charlie Koch? I know people who’ve worked for the Kochs and never heard him called anything but Charles.

As to the gay marriage stuff, the Kochs have been pro-gay marriage for years, well before it became the hot button issue it is now.


19 posted on 08/31/2012 6:13:21 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: SeminoleCounty

“Cannot tell the difference between a Koch and a Soros...this is getting bad.”

True and downright scary.


20 posted on 08/31/2012 6:13:33 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: SoFloFreeper

Don’t know if he has; one would assume so - but if he doesn’t put his money where his mouth is it is no matter then.


21 posted on 08/31/2012 6:16:43 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: freekitty

David and Charles are the 2 most known within the Koch family Foundation.


22 posted on 08/31/2012 6:18:28 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Typical moon bean, code pick libertarian, who could care less if you marry your twin sister or St. Bernard. The only reason this sodomite lover was a republican is because he knows libertarians never win anything. I guarantee this SOB never goes in the front door of a church.


23 posted on 08/31/2012 6:20:28 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: SeminoleCounty
Fiscal conservatives usually end up being neither

Man ain't it the truth. My last fiscal "conservative" congressman lasted one term and has spent the past decade endorsing democrats over the "extremist bible thumping anti choice" crowd.
24 posted on 08/31/2012 6:20:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: scottjewell

So sick of the whole cabal. Let God sort ‘em out at the end. Until then if they choose the sewage so be it unto them.


25 posted on 08/31/2012 6:41:08 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: cripplecreek

Man ain’t it the truth. My last fiscal “conservative” congressman lasted one term and has spent the past decade endorsing democrats over the “extremist bible thumping anti choice” crowd.


I just find, over the years, anyone described as a “fiscal conservative” was never conservative...nor really fiscal, either.


26 posted on 08/31/2012 6:53:08 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When is Fox News gonna fire Karl Rove?)
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To: scottjewell

Most of the mega-rich have sold their souls to the Devil. Especially those immersed in the Hollywood culture which glorifies evil 24/7-—for actors are so needing of adulation and fame for validation, that they have sold their soul. They literally would do ANYTHING for money and fame. They are devoid of character-—a few, like Reagan, survived. More did his generation—but not today. Most get seduced by Satan. Clint Eastwood escaped too—although they seduced him to some of their sick nihilistic ideology—he has a lot of Common Sense. They couldn’t squash that.

Just like Corey Feldman stated-—Most of them are pedophiles. He knows-—he and his childhood friends were raped in homosexual orgies by several producers and their buddies-—who are still making “Glee” type programs to normalize Vice and corrupt children. Leftists allows them to go on raping-—but are outraged if the priests do it-—only because the Church still condemns homosexuality. Hollywood glorifies it-—wants to normalize it like when they had orgies in Greece and Rome-—which always used the boys. It is why the Press is silent about these pederasts. (Can’t make homosexuality look evil, like it is).

Literally, look at Cher who allowed a Lesbian to violate her own daughter’s body when only 11. These sick people are mental cripples, incapable of empathy for others. It is all about “ME” and what my “URGES” are—damn the children and their future. Let their world be so warped and sick that no rational thought will be allowed.

They have wasted their brains with drugs and perversion so long that there really aren’t very many brain cells left. It is frustrating talking to these vacant heads. It is a waste of time. Godless people are all haters and irrational. They believe everything came from absolutely nothing.


27 posted on 08/31/2012 7:00:21 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: SeminoleCounty

I just find that we have a far better chance with a social conservative who has core beliefs that charity should be a choice. They tend to be a lot less likely to see the taxpayers as a cash cow.

My congressman is a baptist minister and he ran on the promise that he wouldn’t bring a lot of money into the district. He simply explained that we shouldn’t take more than we send and sending less would give us more local control of how our tax dollars are spent.


28 posted on 08/31/2012 7:01:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

I just find that we have a far better chance with a social conservative who has core beliefs that charity should be a choice. They tend to be a lot less likely to see the taxpayers as a cash cow.

My congressman is a baptist minister and he ran on the promise that he wouldn’t bring a lot of money into the district. He simply explained that we shouldn’t take more than we send and sending less would give us more local control of how our tax dollars are spent.


So true. Social conservatives have always believed that charity should be done in private or through religious institutions, not the government

Sounds like you have a great representative. The district next to mine may have Alan Grayson as their next House rep...and I pity them


29 posted on 08/31/2012 7:17:20 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When is Fox News gonna fire Karl Rove?)
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To: mrsmith
OTOH there’s been a “what’s the use of being rich if you can’t indulge your sexual perversions...” attitude since long before Caligula.

While that is certainly true. The only reason this news has been posted is because it is new and or unexpected.

Can't help but to be reminded of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnDb2qF0MF0&feature=relmfu

30 posted on 08/31/2012 8:27:20 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: scottjewell

So will the lefties stop hating on the Koch bros? No way.


31 posted on 08/31/2012 8:27:27 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: savagesusie

Well said, and unfortunately very true.


32 posted on 09/01/2012 4:13:37 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Poor Beckel will have no one to rail against.


33 posted on 09/02/2012 7:45:50 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]

34 posted on 08/30/2014 9:38:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think Koch Bros are also pro-illegal alien


35 posted on 08/30/2014 9:40:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]

36 posted on 08/30/2014 11:09:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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