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Why Does Canada Have a Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve?
The Atlantic ^ | Sep 1 2012

Posted on 09/10/2012 4:09:23 AM PDT by nuconvert

On Friday, news broke that thieves had stolen $30 million dollars worth of Quebec's strategic maple syrup reserves. Much as the United States keeps a stock of extra oil buried in underground salt caverns to use in case of a geopolitical emergency, the Federation of Quebec Maple Syrup Producers has been managing warehouses full of surplus sweetener since 2000. The crooks seem to have made off with more than a quarter of the province's backup supply.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; maplesyrup; maplesyrupreserve
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1 posted on 09/10/2012 4:09:36 AM PDT by nuconvert
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2 posted on 09/10/2012 4:10:41 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

It makes sense to me, LOL! I use it in almost everything including haamburgers.


3 posted on 09/10/2012 4:13:32 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: nuconvert

"..because you can't e.....oops wait...can't e....oops wait...can't eat ....aw chit,wait...can't eat them wit...."

4 posted on 09/10/2012 4:13:55 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: prisoner6

To stabilize prices.


5 posted on 09/10/2012 4:14:34 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Doogle

LOL


6 posted on 09/10/2012 4:18:01 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Psalm 73
To stabilize inflate prices.

P.S. This is why Quebec will never secede from Canada. That province has a lot of idiotic nonsense like this that it would never be able to sustain if it were on its own.

7 posted on 09/10/2012 4:18:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: nuconvert

Good idea. Hopefully Tennessee has a Strategic Jack Daniels Reserve. In the event of an emergency.


8 posted on 09/10/2012 4:20:52 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: nuconvert

Because the maple leaf is on their flag.

Duh.


9 posted on 09/10/2012 4:21:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: nuconvert

Silly question.

It’s in case the Saudis cut Maple Syrup production to zero and/or refuse to export it.


10 posted on 09/10/2012 4:22:01 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Alberta's Child
To stabilize [inflate] prices.

I guess a better word would have been: "manipulate", but inflate really is the goal.
And thanks again - always enjoy your Canadian perspectives.

11 posted on 09/10/2012 4:25:32 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Hopefully Tennessee has a Strategic Jack Daniels Reserve. In the event of an emergency.

Indeed, they do. There is a seven-year supply of JD stored in oaken barrels, sitting in bonded warehouses all around Lynchburg.

Personally, I'm anticipating an emergency, oh, around 5:15 this afternoon.

12 posted on 09/10/2012 4:29:58 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: nuconvert
Anybody ever try tapping non-sugar maples?

We have red maples, silver maples, sycamore, black walnut and hickory. I'm thinking about giving it a try this winter.

http://biology.clc.uc.edu/fankhauser/Buds_and_Bark/tapping_sugar_maple_index.html

13 posted on 09/10/2012 4:41:17 AM PDT by fso301
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To: nuconvert

It’s because government bureaucrats need to do something in order to justify their useless jobs and inflated salaries, that’s why.


14 posted on 09/10/2012 4:44:00 AM PDT by grundle
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To: fso301

No. But I’m going to guess that if you can get sap for syrup it won’t be sweet


15 posted on 09/10/2012 4:50:04 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Hurry Commander.....check the duct-tape shed hey!


16 posted on 09/10/2012 4:52:46 AM PDT by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

-—sheesh—all along I’ve thought that was a dinosaur footprint——


17 posted on 09/10/2012 5:02:36 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: nuconvert
No. But I’m going to guess that if you can get sap for syrup it won’t be sweet

My understanding is that the sap of a sugar maple has a higher sugar content that other trees but the sap of many species may be used for making syrup. Birch sap is also used commercially for syrup.

18 posted on 09/10/2012 5:15:50 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

“Birch sap is also used commercially for syrup.”

At first read I thought that said “b!tch slap.” Couldn’t figure out where that fit into the syrup making process...


19 posted on 09/10/2012 5:21:41 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: fso301
Anybody ever try tapping non-sugar maples?

Yes, we have red maples and have tapped them 3-4 times in the last ten years.

The ratio is 60:1 sap:syrup, not 40:1 like a sugar maple.

The taste is not quite as sweet as a sugar maple, but it's still good.

20 posted on 09/10/2012 5:28:32 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: nuconvert

Just in case Vermont ever closes their border with Canada.


21 posted on 09/10/2012 5:29:56 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: okie01

#12

Been there. The smell in those buildings is - amazing.


22 posted on 09/10/2012 5:31:28 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: fso301

I have been making my own maple syrup for two years now. Go on ebay and look for spiles...... the now obsolete device to tap the trees. There are numerous on line sources of how to info. Real syrup makers use taps connected to plastic hose nowdays.

I use my camping stove running on propane to boil the sap down. I do the boiling an an $8.00 Walmart turkey roasting pan. I collect the sap in 2.5 gallon white food grade icing pails obtained from the local supermarket bakery.

The results are a very good and delicious syrup.

Rule of thumb...... 10 gallons of sap yield 1 quart of syrup. When the sap is flowing, 10 gallons is not much of a problem


23 posted on 09/10/2012 5:32:25 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: fso301
My cousins, who own a large farm in Maine, had a hippie-dippie Massachusetts couple move into the house up the road from them a few years back.

This couple decided to make maple syrup and started tapping trees. One of my cousins, who is locally known for his dry wit (read: he's a wiseass) watched them work pretty hard for an hour or so, before he wandered over to ask what they were doing.

"Getting maple syrup, of course", approximately, was the answer.

"Well", my cousin replied, "It's a little late to put taps in. It's May now, taps should go in while the syrup is running. March would be better, depending on the weather and so on. And, you'll have a hard time getting syrup from a tree. You'll need to get the sap, and boil it down. Takes a fair bit of time and patience."

He continued, "But mostly, you'll have a problem getting Maple Sap out of an oak tree."

True story. And, I've made maple syrup before (with that same cousin). Its a lot of work, but the payoff is good. I was up there this summer, and the hippie dippie neighbors were gone. I'd imagine they bugged out after getting their first taste of real winter, though I don't know that for sure.

And I'm shuddering at the thought of what oak sap would taste like. BLEAH!

24 posted on 09/10/2012 5:43:52 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill
He continued, "But mostly, you'll have a problem getting Maple Sap out of an oak tree."

He should then have pointed to a pine and said that is a sugar maple and is what you need to be tapping.

25 posted on 09/10/2012 5:56:50 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

I think that he’s a wiseass, not a sadist. :-)


26 posted on 09/10/2012 5:58:59 AM PDT by wbill
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To: nuconvert

For the same reason the US Gov’mnt fiddles around with sugar?

Its a political lever..for the politicians to play with...

http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbp/tbp-013.pdf


27 posted on 09/10/2012 6:02:15 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: nuconvert
"It's got to be an inside job," he said. "What do you do with that much syrup? You have to be in the industry."

It could present a sticky problem trying to unload that much maple syrup, if that's what they intended.

28 posted on 09/10/2012 6:03:11 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: CPOSharky
Just in case Vermont ever closes their border with Canada.

We would if we could.

29 posted on 09/10/2012 6:03:25 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: nuconvert

Sweet...


30 posted on 09/10/2012 6:05:30 AM PDT by sjm_888
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To: nuconvert

This is from The Atlantic......it’s a very important magazine.....they have very important writers who cover very important subjects. They have an article in the next issue titled SOCKS: COMFORT OR TASTY SNACK?


31 posted on 09/10/2012 6:05:44 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

The Canadians use Maple Syrup as bait. Like how we use feed corn for deer, they use maple syrup when hunting bunnies with pancakes on their heads.


32 posted on 09/10/2012 6:10:19 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: fso301

You will get sap from all of these trees. The difference is the sugar content of the sap. Sugar maples have the highest sugar content of all the major hardwood trees even among the other maples. The result is you will have to boil down many more gallons of sap to get one gallon of syrup.

For example, Sugar maples average 35-40 gallons of sap to make a gallon of syrup. A hickory may be more than 100 to 1.
Red Maples and silver maples would be your best course of action. Try freezing the sap or collecting it early in the morning as opposed to late in the afternoon. This is what I do. This results in ice in the container(I use 1 gallon plastic milk jugs). The ice will be 100% water. The remaining sap in the center of the container will have a heavier concentration of sugar. This then requires less boiling to make syrup. Apparentely, this is how the Native Americans would make syrup by repeatedly leaving it ouside to freeze and then drawing off the sap in the middle.

FYI, this is also how you make Apple Jack from hard cider. Leave the gallon cider container outside at night or stick it in your freezer. Drill a hole into the center of the container and drain off the liquid in the middle. The liquid in the middle will have all the alcohol in it that does not freeze.


33 posted on 09/10/2012 6:14:47 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: nuconvert
when something is that big of a market, it makes sense to have a strategic supply, or else you are hit harder by bumps in the road.

if there was a drought then all the manufacturers from the tree sap collectors to boilers and bottlers and shippers are out of work.

So, it is like money in the bank to tide you over until the next paycheck.

34 posted on 09/10/2012 6:18:05 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: nuconvert
I read another article that described the theft in terms of LBS. of syrup rather than dollars. It said that 1/4 of the 37 million LB. reserve was missing. Now, perhaps my imagination isn't geared toward grand theft schemes, but how in the world does someone steal 9.25 million pounds of liquid stored in barrels from a surveilled warehouse without taking the barrels?

I call BS. I'll bet this is either a case of empty barrels being delivered and counted as full, or some other accounting error.

35 posted on 09/10/2012 6:24:04 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: Izzy Dunne
Yes, we have red maples and have tapped them 3-4 times in the last ten years.

About how much does each tree produce. How long does it take to produce that quantity?

36 posted on 09/10/2012 6:26:14 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

Also, buy the book:

“Backyard Sugarin”

http://www.amazon.com/Backyard-Sugarin-Complete-How-To-Edition/dp/0881502162

It will teach you everything to know.
You will need some basic supplies also. Taps, funnel, 5 gallon containers. Yoou can get those from Bascoms Maple in Alstead, NH. Bascoms also sells the book.

I have been making syrup for about 10 years. I make 2-4 gallons a year. I give most of it away.


37 posted on 09/10/2012 6:26:48 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: wbill

Your story just proves once again that Mainers are the nicest, most patient people on earth!


38 posted on 09/10/2012 6:27:56 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: bert
Go on ebay and look for spiles...... the now obsolete device to tap the trees

I just looked and they are readily available. Thanks.

39 posted on 09/10/2012 6:29:46 AM PDT by fso301
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To: woodbutcher1963
Also, buy the book: “Backyard Sugarin”

Will do. Thanks.

40 posted on 09/10/2012 6:31:57 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Alberta's Child
This is why Quebec will never secede from Canada.

Except that voters there are pushing in that direction. The separatist party just made a major advancement in taking over the QC government. (My wife lived there when the vote to secede failed by a hair; that was too close for advocates to give up.)

The Maritime provinces take it for granted QC will secede, severing their geographic connection to the rest of Canada, and it's a given (to them) they will just become the 51st, 52nd, and 53rd states of the USA. (My parents vacation there on a regular basis; the locals consider US annexation a foregone conclusion.)

41 posted on 09/10/2012 6:39:13 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: grundle

It’s not run by the government. It’s just the nickname that private companies gave to their own stockpile.


42 posted on 09/10/2012 6:40:29 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nuconvert

To pay tribute to the bears.


43 posted on 09/10/2012 6:45:40 AM PDT by Average Al (The Democrat party is a free range zoo.)
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To: fso301

I neglected to add before...... making maple syrup perhaps earns the greatest reward for the least effort of about anything I have done.


44 posted on 09/10/2012 7:05:23 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: nuconvert
Here in Quebec, maple syrup ... is everything!
45 posted on 09/10/2012 7:10:42 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: fso301

“He should then have pointed to a pine and said that is a sugar maple and is what you need to be tapping.”

I have some pines outside my garage and have used the sap
(reduced with alcohol) for soldering flux for years. Works
great and makes the shop smell good!


46 posted on 09/10/2012 7:14:07 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

They wear pancakes on their heads when they hunt bunnies? Those wily Canadians.


47 posted on 09/10/2012 7:24:38 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: nuconvert

The Atlantic keeps a strategic reserve of crap in their basement in case they don’t have enough one month for their magazine.


48 posted on 09/10/2012 7:27:08 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: fso301

We have two trees, each about 16-18 inches in diameter (at tap height).
In a good year, we got between a pint and a quart of syrup.

It’s not economically sensible for us in that quantity. One year we boiled it down on the electric stove. We probably used enough electricity to buy twice what we made.
The reasons we did it were curiosity, and as a homeschooling project.

HINT: there’s a reason the pros do it OUTDOORS.


49 posted on 09/10/2012 8:04:17 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: nuconvert

Can anyone spell Teapot Dome?


50 posted on 09/10/2012 8:19:31 AM PDT by molson50
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